crimson_king | I ran 'sudo rm /etc/rc3.d/S02mysql' to disable the service (so it doesn't start automatically), but it didn't work and now those files were lost forever in vain. What is the correct way to disable/enable services and how to recover the file I deleted? | 00:55 |
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crimson_king | in short, how to disable a service with sysvinit? | 00:56 |
KatolaZ | crimson_king: the original file is still in /etc/init.d/ | 00:57 |
crimson_king | all right | 00:57 |
KatolaZ | /etc/rc?.d have only symlinks | 00:57 |
KatolaZ | crimson_king: you should use update-rc.d | 00:57 |
crimson_king | use update-rc.d? sorry, how use it? | 00:58 |
KatolaZ | that's a command... | 00:59 |
KatolaZ | you use it by running it | 00:59 |
crimson_king | right, hehe, sorry I imagined it was some path, because of .d | 01:00 |
KatolaZ | :) | 01:02 |
Xenguy | There used to be some easier tools than update-rc.d , but I don't even actually know the status of any of them anymore. Been too long since I used any. | 02:44 |
Pr0metheus | I had only epiphany-browser and palemoon (manually installed), I tried to remove epiphany-browser and installed firefox-esr. Now if I try to remove firefox-esr it wants to install epiphany back:P | 13:36 |
Pr0metheus | never thought libreoffice-help would require epiphany-browser or firefox-esr or chromium! | 13:56 |
mescalito_ | Hello! Is Devuan using own repos or Debian's? | 13:58 |
mescalito_ | Nvm, found an answer :) | 14:00 |
Xenguy | Pr0metheus: For palemoon, are you using the bzip'd tarball? | 16:51 |
Pr0metheus | xenguy no I've connected to a repository, I solved the removal of other browsers by removing the help files of libre office | 16:52 |
Xenguy | Sounds good | 16:53 |
Pr0metheus | yeap thanks:) | 16:53 |
Pr0metheus | is clamtk any good? is it useful? | 21:07 |
buZz | i dont see much use to linux AV , no | 21:09 |
buZz | unless you're running a mailserver for some windows users | 21:09 |
Pr0metheus | ok thanks | 21:10 |
buZz | Pr0metheus: behaviour is a way better virus deterrent then any AV tool | 21:12 |
buZz | aka, run webbrowser in a jail setup , dont store passwords , etc | 21:12 |
Pr0metheus | I agree | 21:12 |
buZz | firejail is nice | 21:12 |
nacelle | heh, i like knowing when someone has sent a virus, even if it wont impact me | 21:13 |
buZz | nacelle: if you do 'normal consumer' and click around in linux, you might end up with a system that can execute .exe or .vbs attachments | 21:13 |
buZz | (wine and that kernel support for it) | 21:13 |
buZz | so, behaviour will always remain important | 21:14 |
nacelle | uhm | 21:14 |
buZz | for instance, if you install ubuntu and just enter-enter-enter-next finish | 21:15 |
nacelle | talk about not knowing your audience :-) | 21:15 |
* nacelle giggles and wanders off | 21:15 | |
buZz | hey might not be for you specifically , the audience is 'all the lurkers' | 21:15 |
buZz | ;) | 21:15 |
nacelle | then dont address me! | 21:15 |
buZz | why, you joined the conversation | 21:16 |
buZz | with a helpful pointer on how some ppl might not be aware of being possibly impacted | 21:16 |
Pr0metheus | firejail is a nice suggestion | 21:17 |
Pr0metheus | I installed firetools, so I don't forget its existance:P | 21:17 |
buZz | most virusses run really shitty in wine though :P try to overwrite some libaries that dont exist , etc :P | 21:17 |
buZz | Pr0metheus: \o/ | 21:18 |
buZz | i did find a .scr virus once , or well, a cryptocurrency miner pretending to be a 'cool screensaver' | 21:18 |
buZz | which worked flawlessly in wine | 21:18 |
buZz | we found that .scr on a public FTP at cccongress :P | 21:19 |
Pr0metheus | well I had 1-2 times a virus in my system in 20 years of windows usage, it's a matter of how you run it | 21:19 |
buZz | so probably person who was behind it was also there | 21:19 |
buZz | hmhm, my last virus that i know of was back in msdos days | 21:20 |
Pr0metheus | I think those viruses were real viruses, now it's mostly scripting | 21:20 |
buZz | but i only ran windows from ~96 till ~99 | 21:20 |
sixwheeledbeast | Anti-virus is too late really, you are already infected... | 21:20 |
buZz | WinME was enough to make me go full-on linux | 21:21 |
buZz | sixwheeledbeast: there's a rumor that mcafee, to sell his first AV copies, actually produced and released virusses in the wild to companies he would visit | 21:21 |
Pr0metheus | well tried linux in 1996 and the gui crashed constantly...then back to windows until 10 came out. But you can't leave windows, there are so many specialized applications missing | 21:22 |
buZz | i could leave windows just fine | 21:22 |
buZz | but most specialized software i have is just stuff i wrote | 21:22 |
Pr0metheus | if you are only in computer science yes | 21:22 |
sixwheeledbeast | I wouldn't be surprised | 21:22 |
buZz | Pr0metheus: i never had a education really | 21:23 |
Pr0metheus | well if you are civil engineer there is no CAD software in linux | 21:23 |
sixwheeledbeast | To find a virus you have to know and locate it, so AV is too late. I can see ClamAV/TK being useful for some applications tho. | 21:23 |
buZz | Pr0metheus: hehe yeah, but wine is really good nowadays | 21:24 |
buZz | wine 3.x has directx11 support even (iirc) | 21:24 |
buZz | or 12? | 21:24 |
buZz | and, can even render directx to vulkan | 21:24 |
buZz | for supreme speeds | 21:24 |
Pr0metheus | uh tried wine, then installed all applications in a virtual machine | 21:24 |
buZz | the wine in devuan is still pretty old compared to upstream wine | 21:25 |
Pr0metheus | tried wine in debian stretch last year | 21:25 |
buZz | yep, same thing | 21:25 |
buZz | 1.8.7 | 21:25 |
Pr0metheus | you got a good memory:P | 21:26 |
buZz | i hope so , it costed a sweet penny | 21:26 |
buZz | :P | 21:26 |
Pr0metheus | today I switched from evolution back to thunderbird, wanted to get rid of gnome keyring but then skypeforlinux stopped me:P | 21:26 |
buZz | oo skype, nice , thats the voicechat that even does speech-to-text on serverside, according to snowden :P | 21:27 |
Pr0metheus | well all my colleagues and friends use it, making them switch is like starting a new distro:P | 21:27 |
buZz | all my friends use irc, much easier :) | 21:28 |
Centurion_Dan | sixwheeledbeast: I used to use clamav as a filter on smtp servers I used to run. | 22:00 |
Centurion_Dan | when skype dropped support for alsa, it became too hard to be bothered with letting the NSA listen to my conversations... all 5 of them... | 22:03 |
andi89gi | Hey everybody:) How are you? | 23:56 |
gnarface | nobody does small talk on irc andi89gi | 23:59 |
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