| xrogaan | at last, debian people updated firefox esr to 60. | 00:45 |
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| AlexJones2024 | why not waterfox | 00:48 |
| AlexJones2024 | ive found firefox and chrome are the worst browsers in existence, but i do webdev and such | 00:48 |
| xrogaan | 'cause it's a joke | 00:56 |
| xrogaan | waterfox is a fork of firefox by one individual. Most of what he's doing is backporting upstream changes. | 00:57 |
| xrogaan | I don't trust that individual more than mozilla. Why should I? | 00:58 |
| AlexJones2024 | xrogaan: 1) never trust mozilla | 01:02 |
| AlexJones2024 | they fire people over their personal voting | 01:02 |
| AlexJones2024 | they sold out to google | 01:02 |
| AlexJones2024 | lots of reasons | 01:02 |
| AlexJones2024 | guy they fired has made Brave browser now | 01:03 |
| xrogaan | Shut up, you trust your banker and the system that allows you to shop at a mall. If you want to make a stand, start where it counts. | 01:04 |
| AlexJones2024 | i dont shop at malls | 01:04 |
| AlexJones2024 | and i use a credit union | 01:04 |
| AlexJones2024 | and im about to cancel all my mastercards | 01:04 |
| AlexJones2024 | and by my first house with cash | 01:04 |
| AlexJones2024 | go be a sheep somewhere else | 01:04 |
| AlexJones2024 | commie scab | 01:05 |
| AlexJones2024 | https://old.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/9dwsya/from_brandon_straka_founder_of_walkway_i_am/ | 01:29 |
| AlexJones2024 | woops wrong window | 01:29 |
| yellyFish | hello. i've been searching for the snapd package but can't find it. am missing something? | 03:12 |
| golinux | yellyFish: Yes you are. It's is a banned package which requires systemd | 03:31 |
| golinux | https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/bannedpackages.txt | 03:31 |
| yellyFish | why? not that i absolutely need it but wanted to install something more easilty that i found in snapcraft.io | 03:35 |
| yellyFish | micropolis to be specific, i think the version in devuan is an old one | 03:41 |
| gnarface | yellyFish: do you know of a newer version? | 03:59 |
| yellyFish | http://git.zerfleddert.de/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi/micropolis | 04:00 |
| gnarface | https://donhopkins.com/home/micropolis/ | 04:00 |
| gnarface | this is supposed to be the official version isn't it? | 04:00 |
| yellyFish | last change was like a month ago | 04:00 |
| gnarface | maybe a fork? | 04:01 |
| yellyFish | i think but i found this git that is more updated | 04:01 |
| yellyFish | not sure if a fork or just the git for the source code | 04:01 |
| gnarface | i would use the version in the repo first unless it proves to have something wrong with it | 04:01 |
| gnarface | judging from this donhopkins page it hasn't been updated since 2007 and my best guess is that's what is in the repo | 04:02 |
| yellyFish | yeah, i am trying to compile but i am missing yacc | 04:02 |
| gnarface | did you try `apt-get build-dep micropolis` | 04:03 |
| gnarface | ? | 04:03 |
| gnarface | might make it easier | 04:03 |
| gnarface | the deps for the debian package and their source shouldn't be very different | 04:04 |
| yellyFish | 'E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list' | 04:04 |
| yellyFish | huh? | 04:04 |
| gnarface | just for every "deb" line add a "deb-src" line | 04:04 |
| gnarface | http://paste.debian.net/1041257/ | 04:05 |
| gnarface | like this^ | 04:05 |
| gnarface | you can get the source package from the repo too and build it directly if you wanted | 04:05 |
| gnarface | `apt-get source micropolis` | 04:05 |
| yellyFish | but is the repo updated from the git? | 04:07 |
| yellyFish | btw, still not working build-dep. | 04:08 |
| xrogaan | do you need the update? | 04:08 |
| yellyFish | i mean i would love to play the newest version :). i am in the process of building it, just need this yacc package, not sure wich is it | 04:10 |
| gnarface | yellyFish: you re-ran `apt-get update` after changing the sources.list file, right? | 04:12 |
| yellyFish | gnarface: no. i did not... doing it now | 04:13 |
| yellyFish | that was it | 04:15 |
| gnarface | cool | 04:16 |
| gnarface | the source package from the repo might then just build as easily as `dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc` but i can't speak for that git directory you found | 04:17 |
| yellyFish | used this guide http://hyperlogos.org/page/How-Install-Micropolis-GPL-Simcity-Port-Linux | 04:18 |
| yellyFish | it worked perfectly | 04:18 |
| yellyFish | just got a cheeky complain from the game Darn, X display ":0" claims to support the shared memory extension, | 04:19 |
| yellyFish | but is too lame to support shared memory pixmaps, so Micropolis will run slower. | 04:19 |
| yellyFish | Please complain to your X server vendor, The X.Org Foundation | 04:19 |
| yellyFish | lol. not sure if that's normal from using xorg or i am missing something but the game works | 04:20 |
| gnarface | if that's something you know your hardware can do, it's possible you're using the wrong video driver to enable it | 04:22 |
| yellyFish | probably because i am using noveau with my nvidia card. but i tried to install nvidia-drivers and couldn't make them work, i don't want to try again | 04:28 |
| gnarface | check the support for the version | 04:32 |
| gnarface | a bunch more cards were recently deprecated | 04:33 |
| gnarface | you might have to switch to the legacy nvidia driver to get it to behave | 04:33 |
| xrogaan | you can compile the software yourself, if the new version doesn't requires new libraries. | 04:34 |
| gnarface | this is the version he's compiled himself | 04:34 |
| xrogaan | oh, sorry | 04:34 |
| xrogaan | There is a more recent version of nouveau in the backports | 04:36 |
| gnarface | that could actually help too in theory. i just don't know | 04:37 |
| gnarface | if the card is older than a 500 series, he'll need either good luck with nouveau or good luck that the game will tolerate the legacy proprietary driver | 04:37 |
| gnarface | that's for ascii | 04:38 |
| gnarface | i think it's cut off at the 600 series for unstable | 04:38 |
| gnarface | also, with nouveau i think sometimes certain stuff can be fixed with mesa updates | 04:39 |
| xrogaan | yellyFish: if you got an error, please copy the output and paste it somewhere like dpaste.com | 04:39 |
| xrogaan | the more information you give, the better. | 04:39 |
| xrogaan | Like, is your driver properly loaded? | 04:39 |
| xrogaan | Do you have a integrated gpu thing? | 04:39 |
| xrogaan | that kind of stuff. | 04:40 |
| Lieke | Is the eudev on Ceres now usable or should I still install the version from Ascii? | 10:28 |
| guglicap | I'm having an issue with apt pinning, I pinned ascii with a higher priority than beowulf, but it's trying to upgrade some packages (not all of them) to testing anyway | 10:51 |
| CmdrWgls | Howdy all. Need a little help. | 17:51 |
| CmdrWgls | Used to Debian. Trying to find out which repo contains "snapd". Tried a package search, couldn't figure out which repo to add. Almost certainly my fault. Help? | 17:52 |
| golinux | Cmd | 18:21 |
| golinux | Oops. Misfire | 18:22 |
| unixman_home | IANAD, but. From my searching and looking at the github source, it appears that snapd requires parts of sy*md to work. So, it is not likely to be in a sy*md-free Linux. | 19:06 |
| golinux | unixman_home: He didn't stay around long enough to get an answer. Yes, snapd is on the banned list | 19:40 |
| Xenguy | Huh, Ubuntu | 19:51 |
| Xenguy | Tried it for a year (drank the koolaid), then went back to Debian | 19:52 |
| Xenguy | No interest in their snapd | 19:52 |
| yellyFish | hey waddup. i have been messing with font config and i don't know what to use. what options do you guys use? | 21:10 |
| MinceR | slight hinting, no subpixel hinting | 22:24 |
| Pr0metheus | is anyone using the linux-libre kernel? | 22:55 |
| yellyFish | does anyone know how to disable antialiasing without fonts looking like shit in web explorers? maybe changing fonts or something? | 23:43 |
| gnarface | you know what antialiasing is for, right? | 23:47 |
| gnarface | you can change the way the hints work between a couple legacy options and the new way, or you can turn it off | 23:48 |
| gnarface | a fundamental of the way truetype fonts work though is the anti-aliasing and hinting | 23:48 |
| gnarface | without, it's the definition of jaggy edges and bitmaps | 23:48 |
| gnarface | changing fonts really may help though, depending on the font... some of them were designed for the old hinting type, or no hinting optimization whatsoever | 23:49 |
| gnarface | some of the newer ones though are designed using more advanced methods, and with LCD screens in mind | 23:49 |
| yellyFish | i have hinting enabled but don't like antialiasing, makes font blurry but also don't like how default fonts used in firefox look | 23:57 |
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