Xenguy | I'm getting an error on Jessie when trying to: apt-get update | 03:12 |
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Xenguy | https://paste.debian.net/plainh/73ef7eb0 | 03:15 |
Xenguy | Tried again and it worked | 03:16 |
Xenguy | Failed again on another upgrade attempt, oh well | 03:18 |
gnarface | not your fault, problem with the mirrors | 03:21 |
gnarface | could be broken or just updating | 03:21 |
Xenguy | Makes sense | 03:29 |
drwhite | hi folks, anyone here have an issue with VirtualBricks where it can't find vde_router and qemu? | 04:21 |
skyroveRR | Hey gnarface :) | 05:54 |
skyroveRR | gnarface: remember in July we discussed about me being unable to get my monitor to work at full res? Turns out, when I try to force the resolution, the display actually zooms in, rather than the | 06:07 |
skyroveRR | rather than switching the resolution. Thoughts on this? | 06:07 |
furrywolf | are you sure your exact monitor model can do that resolution? does it have restrictions, like only at annoyingly slow refresh? | 06:13 |
skyroveRR | It's capable of full 1920x1080 for sure. | 06:14 |
skyroveRR | The screen used to be set that way, until recently. | 06:14 |
skyroveRR | In devuan itself. | 06:14 |
furrywolf | no idea, then. | 06:15 |
Tashtari | Anyone here familiar with ARM systems? I had a decent degree of success on my Veyron/Rockchip chromebook with the released image for Jessie, but it seems this isn't a target in ASCII. Was it removed for a technical reason, or just lack of interest? | 06:15 |
nacelle | the rapsberry pi's are arms, doesnt smell right that they'd ditch that arch | 06:16 |
Tashtari | Yeah, that's why I'm concerned... | 06:16 |
Tashtari | On a related note... how much do the various 'embedded' images differ, is it just the same thing repackaged for different bootloaders/media? Or do they require different kernel/initrd/filesystem? | 06:19 |
nacelle | where are you looking ? | 06:21 |
Tashtari | https://mirror.leaseweb.com/devuan/devuan_ascii/embedded/ | 06:21 |
nacelle | https://files.roundr.devuan.org/devuan_ascii/embedded/ | 06:21 |
nacelle | your mirror might suck | 06:21 |
nacelle | sorry, they mirror you used might suck | 06:21 |
Tashtari | Nope, it's not there either | 06:21 |
nacelle | but the pi image is... so... | 06:21 |
nacelle | i'm confused :-) | 06:22 |
nacelle | my guess is you could find an arm image thats close enough | 06:22 |
Tashtari | Well, that was why I asked the second question :) I mean, if it's just a matter of pulling the pieces out of one format and assembling them into the weird cgpt thing that depthcharge expects, I can likely do that | 06:23 |
Tashtari | But... I mean, an RPi is not a chromebook, so it wouldn't seem like the craziest thing if the images had more specialization than that | 06:24 |
golinux | Tashtari: Try #devuan-arm | 06:35 |
Tashtari | Oh, that's a channel? Fair enough. Thanks. | 06:38 |
gnarface | skyroveRR: some xorg.conf setting perhaps... i recall that being expected behavior in some case if the default resolution didn't match the max resolution | 07:01 |
gnarface | you mean you have a panning desktop right? | 07:01 |
gnarface | if you mean the other way around (the desktop is stretched but all fits on the display) check the physical display settings for anything involving automatic aspect ratio handling | 07:03 |
skyroveRR | gnarface: we discussed about this in July without identifying the cause :) the resolution isn't being detected right at GRUB :) | 07:38 |
gnarface | this was an optimus laptop, right? | 07:39 |
gnarface | skyroveRR: ^ | 07:39 |
skyroveRR | It's an ordinary desktop :) | 07:40 |
gnarface | oh, you're not the guy who was also having problems with glx? | 07:40 |
gnarface | ok, i don't remember if you ever got back to me about trying to specify a resolution manually in /etc/default/grub | 07:41 |
gnarface | there should be a commented-out example in there you can edit | 07:42 |
gnarface | you can't always trust it to auto-detect right but sometimes you can force it | 07:43 |
gnarface | if the example doesn't work, there's also the old vga= option that still might works | 07:45 |
gnarface | regardless of that, the display settings could be stretching it too | 07:47 |
gnarface | don't forget to check | 07:47 |
skyroveRR | gnarface: will do. | 07:53 |
DocScrutinizer05 | any user interested in showing their affiliation to devuan by "wearing" a @devuan/community/<USER> IRC host cloak, please /join #devuan-community-cloak - active developers please holler in dev channel, you should receive a @devuan/developers/* instead | 08:52 |
Lachezar | Heya all. Devuan noob here. How does one install docker (as in docker-container, ot the docker WM) into a devuan machine? | 16:16 |
mcr1 | hi, I think that docker has serious systemd dependancies. I use lxc (not lxd). | 16:17 |
Lachezar | mcr1: Really? That'd be a shame. | 16:18 |
mcr1 | I haven't tried lately though. I think that there is a ssh foo | sh method of installing, but I hate those. | 16:18 |
Lachezar | mcr1: I have a (throwable-away) devuan VM, that I'm going to use for the experiments, but I can't find a way to install it. | 16:22 |
mcr1 | :-( | 16:23 |
benharri | Lachezar: have you tried the official docker docs? https://docs.docker.com/install/linux/docker-ce/debian/#install-docker-ce-1 | 16:23 |
benharri | i haven't tried on devuan so i can't guarantee anything | 16:24 |
benharri | would definitely be a good idea to use that throwaway-able vm | 16:24 |
mcr1 | it's an extra repo, so I don't see why it wouldn't work, and they support wheezy, which is pre-systemd. | 16:24 |
benharri | might be worth just installed the package from the .deb | 16:25 |
mcr1 | I would personally like to see packages in devuan that just add the right repos. | 16:25 |
mcr1 | While add-apt-repository is nice, I would rather a less straight-jacket'ed system. | 16:26 |
Lachezar | : Error starting daemon: Devices cgroup isn't mounted | 16:27 |
benharri | https://docs.docker.com/install/linux/docker-ce/binaries/ | 16:27 |
Lachezar | benharri: That's the one I am trying. Needs more cgoups stuff that might be over my know-how grade. | 16:30 |
benharri | it does list 3 github issues about it :o | 16:30 |
benharri | could probably figure it out but i don't have any need to run docker on devuan atm | 16:31 |
Lachezar | benharri: I have some time to test. Would like to have a less sysmetd-ed host. | 16:31 |
Lachezar | s/sysmetd/systemd/ wireless keyboard :( | 16:31 |
benharri | that's fair :) | 16:32 |
Lachezar | Should I use 'stretch' repo for 'ascii'? | 16:35 |
Lachezar | Hm. https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/6237#issuecomment-312458007 | 16:40 |
benharri | heh | 16:44 |
golinux | Lach | 17:20 |
golinux | Lachezar: Oops. You might look at this which was posted in a thread on DNG: https://paddy-hack.gitlab.io/posts/sandwiching-docker-with-devuan/ | 17:21 |
golinux | That was probably for jessie. Don't know about ascii | 17:22 |
Lachezar | Installing packages from docker repos (stretch) seems to work: 'This message shows that your installation appears to be working correctly.' | 17:26 |
* Lachezar grins | 17:26 | |
benharri | heh nice | 17:27 |
Lachezar | Whops. How does one reboot a VM with an encrypted disk wihtout a console? Is there 'ssh-to-boot'? | 17:27 |
Lachezar | Got help in #linux: successfully rebooted the Devuan VM and decrypted over SSH :) | 18:35 |
* Lachezar feels good. | 18:35 | |
plasma41 | nice | 18:37 |
_stephen_ | What's an appropriate path to take to get docker.io installed under ascii? | 21:22 |
_stephen_ | I checked pkginfo.devuan.org and it's in beowulf, ceres, and jessie-backports, but not ascii... | 21:22 |
_stephen_ | Now I feel like a tool. I just pulled up the irc logs and I see that docker had been discussed just shortly before I posted my question. | 22:52 |
gnarface | oh good. now it's safe for me to warn you that it's probably the worst tool for the job amongst many. | 22:55 |
gnarface | the time you spent trying to find a fix would have been better spent switching to literally any other alternative. | 22:55 |
gnarface | i would say vbox is a close second for poor quality | 22:55 |
gnarface | really everyone should be using qemu-kvm (without libvirt/virtd/whatever) | 22:56 |
gnarface | that's where the big money has gone into development | 22:56 |
gnarface | that's where the mainline kernel developers are putting their efforts | 22:57 |
_stephen_ | It's convenient to be able to use docker-compose, though... | 23:00 |
_stephen_ | Is there another container package I should look into using? | 23:01 |
_stephen_ | I went with docker because other projects I worked on made use of it. | 23:01 |
_stephen_ | Also, I haven't tried to start up a container, but I managed to get dockerd to at least run... | 23:01 |
gnarface | i'm not familiar with docker-compose but i think qemu-img does the same thing? i think i just usually make images with dd and debootstrap though | 23:02 |
_stephen_ | I'm a big fan of qemu, but I don't want an entire vm, just a container. | 23:03 |
gnarface | well you could just use chroot for that | 23:04 |
_stephen_ | docker-compose makes it easy-ish to configure a container is all. | 23:04 |
_stephen_ | Oh, I suppose I could bind mount stuff into a chroot... | 23:04 |
gnarface | well, i understand wanting to stick with something easier to use just because it makes it easier... until it doesn't anymore | 23:04 |
_stephen_ | That and the portability aspect. | 23:05 |
_stephen_ | I can throw deps into a container, mount in my project, test it, and throw away the container when I'm done. | 23:06 |
_stephen_ | And being able to hand the cotainer image to team mates is handy, too. | 23:07 |
_stephen_ | Looks like the docker-ce static image is working for now. | 23:16 |
_stephen_ | I followed the link posted earlier by benharri which lead me to ttps://download.docker.com/linux/static/stable/x86_64/ where I grabbed the latest ce tar. | 23:17 |
benharri | owo | 23:18 |
_stephen_ | I also installed cgroupfs-mount and added a docker group before running it. | 23:18 |
_stephen_ | I'm able to run the hello world, as well as import my existing images. | 23:18 |
_stephen_ | And it works with the docker compose from the repo. | 23:22 |
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