DocScrutinizer05 | even while it might look OT, it actually isn'T, perticularly regarding FN receiving sponsoring of PribateInternetAccess VPN that is known to not eavesdrop / log https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/11/19/vpn_app_investigation/ | 01:05 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | >>Using a free VPN? Why not skip the middleman and just send your data to President Xi?<< | 01:06 |
systemdlete | No keyboard input to my ascii VM after reboot. All my other VMs are fine, though. | 02:56 |
systemdlete | virtualbox 5.2.22; I made no changes to the vbox config over the reboot, so I am not sure what is wrong. I can't even get a console use the HOST+Fx combo, which still works fine in other VMs | 02:57 |
gnarface | can you ssh into it? | 02:58 |
systemdlete | didn't think of that. But I did reboot into maintenance mode, and exited at the prompt. Then it let me log in. But this time, I got a full screen, not the lower "resolution" | 03:00 |
systemdlete | I'll try rebooting default, the way I usually do, then try to ssh | 03:01 |
systemdlete | (unless the flakey thing has disappeared...) | 03:01 |
systemdlete | s/thing/problem/ | 03:02 |
systemdlete | accccch. Yep. Now, it lets me login again. | 03:03 |
systemdlete | flakey | 03:03 |
gnarface | i don't really like virtualbox | 03:04 |
gnarface | i recommend qemu-kvm for the same purpose | 03:04 |
systemdlete | I used qemu back in the day... before I discovered vbox | 03:04 |
systemdlete | I'll be testing some stuff on my test box anyway, so maybe I'll try it out there. | 03:05 |
gnarface | the command-line interface hasn't gotten any friendlier since back then, but it has eclipsed vbox in stability and performance | 03:05 |
systemdlete | there's a gui for it I think | 03:06 |
systemdlete | at any rate, all is happy in devuan land now... :D | 03:21 |
Xenguy | The land of milk and honey, yay verily | 04:10 |
Xenguy | gnarface: You generally always seem to be right. Would you consider yourself a self-admittedly, proverbial, 'know-it-all' ? | 04:11 |
Xenguy | ^^ Ob: Yes I am a bot entity | 04:12 |
Xenguy | Not true either, but how are we to know? | 04:12 |
Anselmo | if you're a convincing bot, you may as well be not | 04:14 |
Xenguy | But, bot, but | 04:15 |
Xenguy | gnarface: I meant that in the best of ways, just so you know | 04:19 |
Xenguy | It's not so easy in these days of AI | 04:22 |
Xenguy | OT, np | 04:22 |
gnarface | Xenguy: it's something i'm used to being accused of | 04:29 |
Xenguy | : -) | 04:29 |
Xenguy | Could be worse | 04:29 |
Xenguy | Great to have you here, speaking for myself | 04:30 |
gnarface | thanks, i appreciate that | 04:30 |
Xenguy | I think part of Devuan's experiment is to see how far things scale | 04:31 |
Xenguy | And sometimes, every volunteer counts | 04:31 |
Xenguy | I | 04:32 |
Xenguy | I'll let you know when I've taken my own advice | 04:32 |
Xenguy | : -) | 04:33 |
Anselmo | also I've lately been running into a fun thing with, during boot, a message of ''waiting for lockfile on /run/something/ifstate.eth0'', which usually isnt a problem but sometimes seems to prevent my system from booting | 05:52 |
man_in_shack | you're not doing anything crazy like ata-over-ethernet or nbd, are you? | 05:53 |
Anselmo | its a laptop, I did a netinst using ethernet on eth0, but as a laptop I dont always have ethernet plugged in, do any of yall know an easy fix ? | 05:53 |
mooseface420 | i'm getting screen tearing in devuan. not even in games. in firefox | 05:54 |
Anselmo | man_in_shack, no, though the first time I noticed this it was on a sytem running as a xen dom0, | 05:55 |
Anselmo | its appeared elsewhere, too | 05:55 |
Anselmo | are you running some fancy gpu mooseface420 ? | 05:56 |
Anselmo | that sounds like an issue that might arise from using some drivers or other, but its not a domain I know much of | 05:57 |
mooseface420 | fancy monitor | 05:57 |
man_in_shack | how fancy? | 05:57 |
man_in_shack | freesync/gsync? | 05:57 |
mooseface420 | i switched from Auto refresh rate to 144 and it seems better. gonna keep an eye out for it | 05:57 |
mooseface420 | gsync | 05:57 |
man_in_shack | nice | 05:57 |
Anselmo | you're sure its plugged in righ ? :P | 05:58 |
mooseface420 | lol | 05:58 |
man_in_shack | and yeah, i've had problems with nvidia on linux tearing | 05:58 |
man_in_shack | they just don't care enough | 05:58 |
Anselmo | yeah | 05:58 |
Anselmo | mine is working fine under a nuveau driver (however its spelled) | 05:59 |
Anselmo | but way out of date gpu | 05:59 |
mooseface420 | no GitHub Desktop for linux? I need my red and green diffs | 06:01 |
gnarface | mooseface420: i'm searching around and it looks like someone has made a fork that's available on github and in arch linux but otherwise you are probably better off relying on something native | 07:13 |
gnarface | it doesn't look like they're prioritizing linux support, in fact it looks a lot like the point of their project is to mimic native linux tools in windows | 07:14 |
gnarface | (https://github.com/desktop/desktop/issues/1525) | 07:14 |
gnarface | you were doing Java development, right? i think people migrating from windows usually use eclipse for that | 07:15 |
gnarface | i'd juse use emacs but eh... i doubt you'd like that one | 07:16 |
gnarface | *just | 07:16 |
gnarface | i'm sure everyone in here has an opinion about something you could use instead though | 07:17 |
gnarface | it looks like the github desktop is based on Electron, which i'm also not familiar with, but maybe you could use that instead | 07:19 |
gnarface | hmmm | 07:20 |
gnarface | nope, electron is just a javascript framework | 07:20 |
gnarface | nevermind that | 07:20 |
gnarface | that won't help at all | 07:20 |
gnarface | mooseface420: (the screen tearing thing can probably be fixed by just enabling vsync, it's not on by default everywhere) | 08:06 |
gnarface | if you're using a desktop compositor, it may have a separate vsync setting of it's own, but the nvidia drivers do not enable vsync in opengl apps by default i don't think, and firefox is an opengl app now by default | 08:07 |
gnarface | i think mesa enables vsync by default now though in current versions? maybe i'm wrong about that and it's only on intel or something | 08:08 |
gnarface | Anselmo: my best guess is that it's got something to do with your DHCP server not responding, or not responding fast enough. i think it's possible that changing ethernet devices could be related, but that's not conclusive. | 08:15 |
gnarface | Anselmo: (if you changed physical devices, the system would not have replaced eth0, it would have by default just added it as eth1 for you, which google searches suggest may have caused this for some people in the past) | 08:16 |
gnarface | as far as i can tell, /run/network/intefaces.eth* is the lock file | 08:16 |
gnarface | er, /run/network/ifstate.eth* | 08:16 |
gnarface | contents of mine is just the device name | 08:17 |
mooseface420 | wow my refresh rate keeps going back to Auto | 11:19 |
gnarface | i like to manually set my max and min for vertical and horizontal both to the manual spec ones | 11:20 |
gnarface | that seems to work better for me than auto usually | 11:20 |
gnarface | not everyone has a problem with it | 11:20 |
gnarface | you can create an xorg.conf or partial snippet for that | 11:21 |
gnarface | it's no longer required to have a config but i find it still is preferable for me | 11:21 |
mooseface420 | when I change refresh rates my screen gets radically dimmer or brighter | 11:22 |
mooseface420 | as for git, my only real requirement is color-coded diffs | 11:23 |
mooseface420 | unified and split | 11:25 |
gnarface | that should be a pretty easy feature to find | 11:27 |
mooseface420 | how do I get testing packages with apt-get. gradle is way out of date on stable | 12:41 |
furrymcgee | add the testing repository to /etc/apt/sources.list | 12:49 |
KatolaZ | mooseface420: please do not use "testing" (the string) | 12:50 |
KatolaZ | use "beowulf" instead | 12:50 |
gnarface | well, but check backports first to be sure... | 12:50 |
KatolaZ | and be careful, maybe pin it down, since beowulf is still under working | 12:50 |
gnarface | ... and he's gone | 12:50 |
KatolaZ | sometimes I wonder why one should be bothered to answer :D | 12:51 |
KatolaZ | 9 minutes | 12:51 |
KatolaZ | bbl | 12:51 |
TwistedFatePhone | Which KDE version comes with current Devuan stable? | 13:34 |
mooseface420 | so I add "deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged ascii beowulf" ? | 13:41 |
gnarface | TwistedFatePhone: not sure, but it looks like 5.8.6 to me | 13:41 |
KatolaZ | no mooseface420 | 13:42 |
KatolaZ | deb https://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf main | 13:42 |
mooseface420 | ok | 13:43 |
mooseface420 | thx | 13:43 |
KatolaZ | np | 13:43 |
mooseface420 | Getting permissions errors with apt-get and gradle. I've been using root to install gradle and trying to use gradle with the normal user. | 14:30 |
furrymcgee | me tried gradle once it was annoying | 14:38 |
mooseface420 | compared to maven or just generally annoying | 14:39 |
TwistedFatePhone | gnarface: ah, shame that kde 4 was dropped. | 17:00 |
xrogaan | any of you nice people have a trick to start a new urxvt console in the same working directory? | 18:15 |
Leander | xrogaan: you can have a look at something like this: https://faq.i3wm.org/question/150/how-to-launch-a-terminal-from-here/ | 18:43 |
xrogaan | i've been googling for a while | 18:44 |
mooseface420 | in osx i wrote a script so i could right click on dir and open it in terminal | 18:45 |
mooseface420 | good times | 18:46 |
Leander | well, what about it? you found it but don't like it? | 18:47 |
xrogaan | It's all too hacky for my taste. cwd-spawn requires something to execute every time you change directory. | 18:50 |
xrogaan | I just need to be able to have urxvt ask the WM to start a new urxvt. | 18:51 |
xrogaan | But I don't understand the keysym stuff. | 18:51 |
devoid_ | you can use xdotool to get the title | 18:52 |
devoid_ | and get the path from it | 18:52 |
devoid_ | works as long as nothing replaces the title the shell sets (vim for ex. does) | 18:52 |
devoid_ | and then just bind the script in the wm | 18:53 |
Leander | look at all the answers, there's a bash script that you can reuse | 18:54 |
xrogaan | the bash script requires to be launched from the WM thing, like with a shortcut. Beside, that bash script is a glorified "urxvt -cd `pwd`&" | 18:56 |
Leander | so, what are your actual requirements? you want to write down a command in your current shell? | 18:57 |
xrogaan | I'd like to have urxvt ask the WM to start another urxvt in the same directory. The request comes from the terminal, not from the WM. It's silly, I know :P. | 19:00 |
xrogaan | I was hoping that mate had some kind of cli tool to launch applications, like the run dialog usually mapped on alt+f2 | 19:01 |
xrogaan | but that's integrated to the panel. | 19:01 |
Leander | then just use an alias in bash? it should work | 19:02 |
xrogaan | somehow, that clones the pseudo terminal. Uses the same /dev/pts/ | 19:05 |
xrogaan | actually, that's wrong. It simply creates a subshell of the current one. | 19:07 |
xrogaan | I'd like to avoid that. | 19:09 |
Leander | what if you use exec? something like: exec urxvt -cd `pwd`& | 19:15 |
Leander | it should prevent the creation of a subshell | 19:15 |
xrogaan | doesn't | 20:12 |
xrogaan | Leander: https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/urxvt-ctrl-shift-n-to-open-a-new-terminal-4175605504/#post5707841 | 21:48 |
xrogaan | It's that simple. | 21:48 |
* Hurgotron admits to be a tad underwhelmed with the ascii images... maybe minor nipicking, but still | 22:51 | |
Hurgotron | So I have this machine assembled from junk and I want to install Devuan, but firt test memory. My old Devuan install stick had a mentest option. OK, let's download... minimal-live. No memtest. OK, fair, it's minimal. | 22:53 |
Hurgotron | so I install netinst.iso. memtest option is there, but just beeps. huh. | 22:54 |
* jonadab keeps a memtest CD around as a separate item. | 22:54 | |
Hurgotron | So I download desktop-live. memtest option is there, but "file not found". WTF | 22:54 |
Hurgotron | jaromil: I have several ways to get memtest running. And it's fine if the images don't inclide memtest for whateber reason. But at least the menu entries should reflect that, IMO. | 22:56 |
Hurgotron | I guess I need to get involved and bei doing QA. Looks like I'm prone to hit the not-working buttons. | 22:59 |
* ErRandir cannot remember when he last ran memtest... | 23:07 | |
* nacelle has memtest on a pxe menu | 23:08 | |
koollman | ErRandir: you should test your memory, then, obviously. It's missing data that was previously there ;) | 23:09 |
Hurgotron | ErRandir: After having had bad RAM two times already, slowly corrupting some of my data, and memtest taking 18 hours until it showed errors - I'm a little bit paranoid about that issue. | 23:26 |
gnarface | hmmm | 23:32 |
gnarface | the ascii netinstall is missing memtest but has a menu entry for it anyway? | 23:32 |
gnarface | i'm not calling you a liar, but that does stretch credibility a little | 23:32 |
gnarface | i remember trying it myself.... | 23:32 |
gnarface | i could be wrong but... Hurgotron did you checksum the image before you used it? | 23:33 |
gnarface | you wouldn't be the first person to get a corrupted image download that was partially/mostly functional | 23:33 |
gnarface | we've seen that happen at least twice before | 23:33 |
Hurgotron | gnarface: I did. | 23:36 |
Hurgotron | gnarface: ok, I just verified my images again (this time with qemu) in case I got something mixed up with my USB stick writing. | 23:43 |
Hurgotron | devuan_ascii_2.0.0_amd64_desktop-live.iso: no such file or directory | 23:43 |
Hurgotron | devuan_ascii_2.0.0_amd64_netinst.iso: no memtest menu | 23:43 |
Hurgotron | devuan_ascii_2.0.0_amd64_minimal-live.iso: memtest menu just beeps | 23:43 |
gnarface | damn | 23:43 |
gnarface | i wonder how long it's been missing | 23:44 |
gnarface | maybe something has just gone wrong with the build recently | 23:44 |
Hurgotron | The images I got have timestamps from June 6 and 7 | 23:45 |
xrogaan | The memory stick is so bad that it scares memtest away. | 23:47 |
gnarface | i might just be remembering testing the jessie one | 23:47 |
Hurgotron | gnarface: the jessie one worked for me, right. | 23:48 |
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