drwhite | hi folks, I'm running ASCII, When I user Firefox and click to "open containing folder" for a download, it just locks up solid. I do it on my virtual which is near on identical, and it works perfectly. What is it that locks up Devuan when I do this? So how do I find out what it is that is locking Devuan up? | 01:38 |
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rrq | it doesn't just lock up X? how near is "near"? | 01:46 |
Xenguy | drwhite: Can you unpack your first sentence a bit more? | 01:47 |
drwhite | Just X. | 01:48 |
Xenguy | What DE? | 01:48 |
drwhite | default | 01:48 |
Xenguy | And what is "open containing folder" ? | 01:48 |
drwhite | the option I click, as I said. | 01:48 |
Xenguy | You're supposed to be asking the questions, not me... | 01:49 |
drwhite | I did ask the question. | 01:49 |
drwhite | I asked it straight forward | 01:49 |
Xenguy | So what DE, and WTF is "open containing folder"? | 01:49 |
rrq | drwhite: do you use nfs? or any other kind of remote file system? | 01:49 |
drwhite | no I do not | 01:49 |
djph | in the firefox download manager he's supposedly right-clicking a downloaded item, and selecting the "open in folder" option. | 01:50 |
* Xenguy shrugs... | 01:50 | |
Xenguy | djph: tx | 01:50 |
Xenguy | .oO( Just use wget (and get off my lawn) ) | 01:50 |
rrq | drwhite: permissions? | 01:51 |
drwhite | downloads are saved to my ~/Downloads | 01:52 |
rrq | ok. other end: what's supposed to happen? which program opens the folder? | 01:52 |
drwhite | opens the file manager and locates the file. | 01:53 |
rrq | same problem with all downloads? | 01:54 |
drwhite | yes | 01:54 |
rrq | same problem last year? | 01:54 |
drwhite | yes | 01:54 |
drwhite | near, difference is that main machine has QEMU, virtual does not have QEMU. | 01:55 |
rrq | hmm you might need to wait for a firefox user. happy new year. | 01:55 |
drwhite | So you are sayign it's an FF bug not something in Devuan? | 01:56 |
drwhite | As for the other part of my query, how do I find out what is locking it up? | 01:56 |
rrq | if it's busy waiting a top would do, if it's a deadlock you'll need to strace and ponder. | 01:57 |
Hurgotron | drwhite: the file manager itself does not have the problem? | 01:58 |
drwhite | no | 01:58 |
rrq | possibly /var/log/Xorg.0.log might tell something | 02:00 |
drwhite | file manager works fine. | 02:00 |
rrq | or /var/log/syslog .. but you've probably been there | 02:00 |
drwhite | When it locks up there is nothing in the logs. | 02:02 |
drwhite | It doens' tget to write to the logs that there is an error, if there is one. | 02:02 |
rrq | not even /var/log/kern.log I suppose ... (the qemu video driver is different I guess) | 02:05 |
rrq | no. doesn't makes sense to go there. Why is FF running file manager different from itself doing it? | 02:08 |
rrq | sorry. wrong wuestion. should ne "how" not "why". | 02:08 |
* rrq has misaligned keyboard. | 02:09 | |
rrq | can you configure FF to use some other "open directory" method? | 02:10 |
drwhite | It isn't really different, it just calls the default that is there and passes the file to select. that is all. | 02:13 |
drwhite | I can do file open, I can do other things like that too. | 02:13 |
drwhite | I can open the Library and select Downloads and then do it from there, and that locks up too. | 02:13 |
drwhite | It used to have a Download Manager, and that worked. | 02:13 |
drwhite | but then they changed it and integrated into the Library just to complicate things. | 02:14 |
drwhite | On this main system, it locks up, in the virtual it doesn't. | 02:14 |
rrq | I don't knwo what "The Library" is. We have one down in Collingwood, but it can't be that. | 02:15 |
drwhite | Well they removed "Download Manager", then added the downloaded files list to "Library" | 02:17 |
rrq | mmm I'm still enjoying palemoon 27.3.0 (unpacked binary tgz), except for video calls. | 02:19 |
furrywolf | someone in another channel was raving the other day about the not-opera browser that I can't remember the name of... are its licenses remotely debian-compatible? | 02:23 |
drwhite | FF comes with Devuan on a normal install. There is no package based installation, so I can't customise. I have to have the stuff I don't want installed so that I can then remove it. | 02:24 |
drwhite | PaleMoon doesn't have the "ask me every time" for cookies preferences. | 02:28 |
rrq | min has, under the "custom settings for history" choice... we'll see if it works.. | 02:35 |
rrq | well, it certainly pooped up some dialogues forcing me to make on-the-spot decisions... | 02:36 |
rrq | (hmm "pooped" wasn't what I thought I wrote, but in hindsight it's fitting) | 02:41 |
drwhite | What version do you use? | 02:52 |
rrq | 27.3.0 | 02:53 |
drwhite | 28.2.2 here | 02:53 |
rrq | maybe it got ''improved'' already | 02:53 |
rrq | edit preferences, privacy, history, use custom settings for history, accept cookies, keep until = ask me every time | 02:54 |
phogg | furrywolf: was it vivaldi? | 02:59 |
furrywolf | sounds right | 02:59 |
phogg | It's just another chromium clone as far as I can tell. A few more bells and whistles. Even netsurf is more interesting. | 03:00 |
drwhite | rrq, I still don't see how takign out the option is "improved", if people want to not be notified, they just select that option. pure logic. lol | 03:59 |
drwhite | But such as life. | 03:59 |
nailyk | hello. Looks like there is an issue with the refracta installer. While setting up new user (not root) I failed with the password, but the script continue anyway | 13:08 |
nailyk | https://framadrop.org/r/bH10Orjeus#hTQAEDrOhV6movQMmZM3Etjo0x8wiEnQ5gAkQrhPD9A= | 13:09 |
golinux | nai | 18:59 |
golinux | oops | 18:59 |
golinux | nailyk: ping | 18:59 |
chris28 | hello. what are the files that I should look in to collect information for a crash (hexchat)? | 19:51 |
gnarface | chris28_: hexchat puts logs in ~/.config/hexchat, but most stuff puts crash dumps into /tmp somewhere | 20:09 |
nailyk | golinux: pong | 22:30 |
nailyk | 3h30 of lag xD | 22:30 |
nailyk | too late it seems, lets see tomorow or drop me a PM please. see you #devuan :) | 22:37 |
SrainUser | Hello everyone, since of today I am using Devuan on my raspberrypi 3. I used the ascii image for my pi and then changed all the repository names to beowulf and then did a distro upgrade. Everything works fine, but now I cannot figure out how to install the kernel headers. docker needs them. I am running kernel 4.16.14-v8+ but the only kernel versions apt shows me is 4.19.12 | 22:59 |
gnarface | i'm not sure the debian kernel boots on those | 23:01 |
gnarface | uh, you should ask that in #devuan-arm | 23:01 |
SrainUser | thanks | 23:02 |
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