libera/#devuan/ Saturday, 2019-07-13

golinuxagris: You can search specific websites with google and probably other search engines.  I'm too lazy to go find it but I know it's very efficient because I have used it in the past.00:18
golinuxIn fact, I should probably start doing that on d1g because there are now quite a few users and posts and I can't remember where things are any more.00:20
agrisb17wise Devuan uses Gentoo's eudev06:17
pekman /quit12:32
moireefirefox-esr is still at version 60.7.2 in ascii, altough the security update came two days ago in debian stretch. Why is this so?18:20
gnarfacemoiree: i assume it is a time resources related issue18:32
gnarfacemaybe ask the mailing list?18:33
moireegnarface: Thanks!18:33
gnarfaceif it needs to be rebuilt, it might take some time to make it over18:34
gnarfaceif not, it could be a problem with the mirror you're using not being propagated18:35
fsmithredpkgmaster.devuan.org (aka deb.devuan.org) gets stuck. I don't know the reason. You can use auto.mirror.devuan.org instead.18:40
fsmithredor in the case of firefox-esr, just download the deb from debian repo. We don't change it.18:40
moireeusign deb.devuan.org as advised on https://devuan.org/os/18:40
fsmithredyou are correct. We recommend that you use deb.devuan.org18:41
fsmithredExcept it's broken.18:41
moireefsmithred: That's sad. Will try auto.mirror then.18:42
fsmithredauto.mirror.devuan.org is the older repo, but it works.18:42
moireefsmithred: Thank you! It works indeed. Maybe the page <https://devuan.org/os/> should be changed accordingly?18:46
fsmithredMaybe. A better solution would be to find the source of the problem and fix it.18:46
gnarfaceis it only this package?18:47
fsmithredno, all the InRelease files for merged are stuck at July 718:47
gnarfaceoh, bummer18:48
gnarfaceis that just an ascii thing?18:48
gnarfaceor does it affect the testing and unstable too?18:48
fsmithredlooks like it's everything18:49
fsmithredok, some are July 6 23:5018:50
[exa]hi everyone! I'm going to ask a relatively standard newb question19:40
[exa]I'm currently on debian testing, what's the worst thing I can expect broken when migrating to devuan?19:41
[exa](I'm post-gentoo, no problem with fixing small scriptish problems)19:42
[exa]more specific question: how many packages from debian testing can _not_ be easily transferred to devuan?19:43
golinuxYou can't migrate debian testing to devuan atm because our "testing" is still buster/beowulf wnich hasn't been release yet.19:47
golinux"bullseye" with be codenamed "Chimaera" and it will be a good while before that will be useful.19:50
golinuxSorry for the typos19:50
golinux[exa]: ^^^19:50
[exa]golinux: no problem with a bit of downgrades19:51
[exa]is there some serious trouble with using particular packages eg from bullseye/sid deb repos? (mostly desktop/graphics related, nothing that would touch init)19:52
[exa]meh it looks like Ceres includes basically everything I'd need19:54
[exa]oh wow guys you even got codecrypt, I hardly believed it would get past debian, ever19:55
[exa]apulse *check*19:55
[exa]I guess people here could like this https://github.com/exaexa/pulseaudio-dummy-deb19:56
golinuxI was going to suggest ceres19:58
golinuxSurely none of the desktops on bullseye will work will work so early on.  <aybe with some pinning but that's beyond me.  I'm still on jessie!19:59
golinuxDevuan accesses Debian repos via redirect then filters packages for dependencies that would break Devuan.  If you install them from Debian directly updates won't work properly.20:01
golinux[exa]: ^^^20:01
[exa]hmmmm yes that makes sense20:03
[exa]cool20:04
[exa]thanks a lot20:04
golinuxGood luck!20:05

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