| xrogaan | I did an apt upgrade on ascii, and I got this after the download of the packages: http://dpaste.com/0KH54WQ | 04:39 |
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| xrogaan | should I be worried? | 04:39 |
| xrogaan | oh, nevermind | 04:40 |
| xrogaan | was on the wrong directory | 04:40 |
| xrogaan | silly me, teach me to do stuff before bed | 04:41 |
| systemdlete2 | how can I get a newer kernel for ascii? I have 4.9.0-9, and I think, based on Internet posts addressing my issue, I need about 4.10 | 06:35 |
| golinux | systemdlete2: https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/d1pkgweb-query?search=linux-image-4.10&release=any | 06:43 |
| golinux | 0 results for "linux-image-4.10" in any | 06:43 |
| systemdlete2 | any newer maybe? | 06:43 |
| systemdlete2 | like 4.19? | 06:44 |
| golinux | Give it a spin: https://pkginfo.devuan.org | 06:45 |
| systemdlete2 | I thin I found it,thx golinux | 06:45 |
| golinux | Cool! You know . . . teach a man to fish . . . ;) | 06:47 |
| systemdlete2 | right. Now teach me best wait to bait a hook... dpkg or apt? | 06:50 |
| systemdlete2 | (sorry I've forgotten) | 06:50 |
| systemdlete2 | I don't see a download link for the package I want | 06:52 |
| systemdlete2 | the links there only link another web page, not a file | 06:54 |
| djph | systemdlete: they're equivalent. | 12:37 |
| systemdlete | djph: What is equivalent to what? (sorry, maybe I am dense...) | 13:32 |
| systemdlete | I solved it by just "apt -t ascii-backports linux-image-whatever-the-heck..." | 13:33 |
| systemdlete | it installed the 4.19 kernel and it really DOES make my laptop settle down. It is much more stable now. I can log out of xfce 10x, or it seems, and no longer hangs. But stay tuned; I've seen these issues return | 13:34 |
| systemdlete | Trouble is, I may need an even MORE recent kernel to resolve my cinnamon issue, which also ultimately hangs the system. | 13:34 |
| systemdlete | Not sure what might be available beyond 4.19, unless I consider upgrading to beowulf or something. | 13:35 |
| systemdlete | I'd like to use cinnamon because I've heard that cinnamon offers a good experience on a touch tablet. | 13:36 |
| systemdlete | oh, just got it, djph. Guess I should have gone back and thoroughly read what I wrote there. | 13:37 |
| systemdlete | you are saying I could have used either apt or dpkg in that instance. OK, I'll keep in mind for future. | 13:38 |
| djph | systemdlete: apt and dpkg | 15:42 |
| djph | systemdlete: well, assuminv the package is in the repos. | 15:42 |
| systemdlete | Yeah, I figured you out. (finally, sorry it took me some time) | 15:43 |
| systemdlete | anyway, I've got cinnamon running ok now. The kernel update was badly needed, as gnarface suggested. It is a newer kernel, seems stable. | 15:44 |
| djph | heh, good deal systemdlete | 15:45 |
| systemdlete | I also had to fix the orientation of lightdm -- there is a way to configure a setup script for lightdm and all it does is call xrandr to rotate the screen. | 15:45 |
| systemdlete | (well I sure pestered enough people here enough times!) | 15:45 |
| systemdlete | once lightdm was straightened out, cinnamon magically started working correctly. Trouble is, the touch gestures don't translate with the rotation. | 15:46 |
| systemdlete | But I continue to google items, trying to make this work for me. One thing I've concluded is that there are no DE's at this time that create a truly touchscreen-friendly user experience. | 15:47 |
| systemdlete | oh well. | 15:47 |
| systemdlete | It is nice having a new laptop anyway. Someday I'll be able to use it as a tablet, too. I just have to be patient. | 15:51 |
| systemdlete | actually, it will work as a tablet, but only if I rotate it back to portrait mode. For this, cinnamon works very well. The only sticky point now is the virtual keyboard (my current "project") | 15:53 |
| xrogaan | systemdlete: use backports | 16:02 |
| xrogaan | 4.19.0-0.bpo.5-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.19.37-5+deb10u2~bpo9+1 | 16:02 |
| systemdlete | got that already, xrogaan. thanks | 16:02 |
| systemdlete | made a VAST improvement in stability. | 16:02 |
| xrogaan | is that so? | 16:14 |
| systemdlete | you are surprised xrogaan? In fact, many posts indicate that kernels after about 4.9 stabilize their systems | 16:56 |
| systemdlete | (googled it) | 16:56 |
| systemdlete | bbl | 16:56 |
| xrogaan | probably depends on the hardware | 16:59 |
| james1138 | General question. Is there a chat group to discuss Linux games? | 18:29 |
| fbt | Well there's the GoL community, although their main chat is on Telegram | 18:31 |
| fbt | These guys: https://www.gamingonlinux.com/ | 18:32 |
| james1138 | Big thanks FBT! | 18:34 |
| HyperTables | how do I install docker? I see no `docker.io` package | 18:36 |
| HyperTables | Package docker.io is not available, but is referred to by another package.This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, oris only available from another source | 18:37 |
| r3boot | HyperTables: your best bet is to install the upstream docker packages, https://docs.docker.com/install/linux/docker-ce/debian/ | 18:40 |
| HyperTables | thanks - will give that a try | 18:41 |
| fsmithred | beowulf has docker.io | 18:41 |
| fsmithred | (in case upstream doesn't work) | 18:41 |
| HyperTables | sudo service --status-allshows | 19:22 |
| HyperTables | [ - ] docker | 19:23 |
| HyperTables | ah got it I had to do `sudo service docker start` | 19:23 |
| plasma41 | james1138: You may want to check out #libregamenight here on freenode. | 20:31 |
| james1138 | What is the libregamenight chat? | 20:34 |
| gnarface | systemdlete: enlightenment 0.17 and later have a some sort of mobile/tablet mode that might be worth checking out for you. i've never tried it myself though. | 20:41 |
| golinux | All this is OT and should be on #debianfork ;) | 20:41 |
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