libera/#devuan/ Friday, 2019-09-13

DocScrutinizer05Hi! searching on https://devuan.org/get-devuan for a link to a install guide for "Virtual", almost fell for "Visual" ;-). I'm pretty sure there was a howto for vagrant boxes, where can I find it?10:39
gnarfacecheck the forums10:40
fsmithredDocScrutinizer05, https://devuan.org/os/documentation/install10:51
DocScrutinizer05ta! :-)10:51
DocScrutinizer05hmmmmm, needs update, eh?  >> config.vm.box = "https://files.devuan.org/devuan_jessie/virtual/devuan_jessie_1.0.0_amd64_vagrant.box"  <<10:54
fsmithredoh10:56
fsmithredI predict it will be updated when we move to beowulf.10:56
DocScrutinizer05I rercall me even "opening a ticket" about that very detail, to download from file mirrors, not the file seed server11:14
DocScrutinizer05wasn't there a cononical round-robin URL for fle mirrors?11:15
DocScrutinizer05ca*11:15
fsmithreddeb.devuan.org11:19
fsmithredno11:20
DocScrutinizer05also the snippet of code there ( https://devuan.org/os/documentation/install#vagrant ) actually over-accomplishes the recommended >>...just copy the following file in your HOME directory and run vagrant up<<11:20
DocScrutinizer05IOW copying that code into a file will not do the job11:20
fsmithredI think if you download from files.devuan.org you get redirected to a mirror11:22
DocScrutinizer05rather user should >>...copy&paste the following code into your terminal/shell to execute it<<11:22
DocScrutinizer05fsmithred: ((get redirected)) oh fine :-)11:22
DocScrutinizer05fsmithred: seems like the "ticket" got fixed ;-) I locally got >> config.vm.box = "https://vagrant.devuan.org/devuan_jessie_rc/virtual/devuan_jessie_1.0.0-RC_amd64_vagrant.box" << in my ancient installation11:34
fsmithredmaybe fixed in git but didn't get to the website11:35
DocScrutinizer05actually there's also https://files.devuan.org/devuan_ascii/virtual/Vagrantfile11:46
DocScrutinizer05>>maybe fixed in git<< nah, look at "https://vagrant.devuan.org..." vs "https://files.devuan.org/..."11:47
DocScrutinizer05re >><fsmithred> I think if you download from files.devuan.org you get redirected to a mirror<<11:48
DocScrutinizer05and the https://files.devuan.org/devuan_ascii/virtual/Vagrantfile already has >> config.vm.box = "https://files.devuan.org/devuan_ascii/virtual/devuan_ascii_2.0.0_amd64_vagrant.box" <<  :-)11:49
onefangdeb.devuan.org will redirect you to a package mirror, I'm not sure that works for the ISO mirrors.11:58
onefangfiles.devuan.org is just a single IP.11:59
DocScrutinizer05:nod:11:59
DocScrutinizer05anyway my itches are a different kind right now: local VirtualBox Version: 6.0.10-lp150.4.36.1;  vs diagnostic output of Vagrant: >>Vagrant has detected that you have a version of VirtualBox installed that is not supported by this version of Vagrant. Please install one of the supported versions listed below to use Vagrant: 4.0, 4.1, 4.2, 4.3, 5.0, 5.1<<12:01
DocScrutinizer05o.O12:02
DocScrutinizer05maybe I should update vagrant, eh?12:03
DocScrutinizer05https://i.imgur.com/KcXfXC7.png  hmmm, has vagrant a "update $self" feature?12:05
DocScrutinizer05A: it has12:06
DocScrutinizer05ohmy, I expect a rough ride ahead:   https://github.com/hashicorp/vagrant/CHANGELOG.md  2.2.4 (February 27, 2019)  BUG FIXES:  guest/debian: Properly set DHCP for systemd-networkd ips [GH-10586]12:26
DocScrutinizer05did anybody *test* the ASCII vagrant box?12:27
DocScrutinizer05even better maybe: make hashicorp aware there's a guest distro called "Devuan"12:28
DocScrutinizer05hmm, let's see, so good so far https://termbin.com/mpqjr12:38
DocScrutinizer05success: https://termbin.com/eu7h12:49
DocScrutinizer05could you help me out where to find pip(3)?13:03
DocScrutinizer05nm, found it: python-pip13:07
DocScrutinizer05*cough*  python3-pip13:12
james1138Question about Devuan and high-capacity USB drives. I came across some old 256 gig USB drives from my old days as a Windows devotee. Is there anything I need do other than maybe reformatting to use such large USB drives with Devuan??  All my other USB drives are 32 gig at most and I can use them without any problems.16:20
fsmithredjames1138, it's not a problem. I have a 120G usb drive that's about 10 years old that I've always used with linux. A new 2T usb drive works, too.16:29
james1138Thanks fsmithrad. I did not know if I needed to install some special format protocol or something other than ExFat or NTFS.16:31
fsmithredI format mine to ext4 for use with linux.17:06
james1138New question about Devuan and USB. I realized that with Ubuntu... I can "try before buy" by running Ubuntu from USB before installing - but I fail to see that option with Devuan & USB. Am I doing something wrong?18:41
telst4rjames1138, the Devuan installer DVD does let you to try it before installing, doesn't it?18:50
telst4rjames1138, at devuan.org it says right after ISO Guide: "desktop-live: Explore the default Xfce desktop before installing. Can be installed easily and quickly from the live session using the refractainstaller." :)18:53
james1138I out the ISO on USb instead of burning to DVD. Does that make a difference??18:53
james1138"O put"18:54
james1138"I put" - brain fart18:54
telst4rjames1138, No, it should not make any difference. As long as you get it to boot off the USB. dd=.. just might work. It's been a while since I plaid with those so my memory is not fresh18:56
telst4rdd if=<the source iso file> of=<the target device>18:57
james1138I shall give it a try. I have been toying with the idea of going 64-bit Devuan and wanted to see how it feels.18:58
telst4rI run dev1 on most of my machines. Laptops, desktops, nas'es and Rpi's included. Works nicely.19:00
james1138telst4r - I am using Devuan now - just 32 bit w/XFCE desktop.19:03
agris_What is the default Devuan login manager? I'm trying to register at the forums but I've I usually replace the login and screenlocking implementation when I'm first installing. is it sddm?21:09
agris_or lightdm21:09
debdogslim21:10
debdogI suppose21:10
gnarfacei think it is slim or lightdm depending on installation options, no?21:12
gnarfacebut there should be others available too21:12
gnarfaceafter installation, anyway21:13
agris_hmm. if that's the case that makes the captcha a little ambiguous21:20
gnarfaceit might be that way on purpose, i don't know21:24
gnarfacei think for that captcha they are looking for slim, not sure though21:25
golinuxagris: There is no captcha on the forum.  You will have to answer a question though . . .21:47
golinuxI can register you manually if you query me.21:50
agrisno its fine i already did it21:50
golinuxNever mind.  Just got up from a nap.  Yes, slim is currently the default dm21:51
agrisyes21:51
golinuxHave you confirmed yet?  I'm not seeing you on the list.21:52

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