| agris | is that the game with the pixels? | 00:03 |
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| specing | pixels? No, it is a world war II RTS | 00:11 |
| systemdlete | lost sound on my laptop -- I think there is a solution, but i forgot. | 07:11 |
| systemdlete | aplay works at command line, just browsers have no sound | 07:11 |
| systemdlete | ascii, with all the latest updates | 07:11 |
| systemdlete | I tried running each browser with apulse also, no sound | 07:12 |
| systemdlete | (sound WAS working for some time on ascii on my laptop) | 07:12 |
| gnarface | systemdlete: did you have a custom ~/.asoundrc maybe and deleted it accidentally? | 09:03 |
| osdfhaoehgsdahgo | I don't want to troll but have to say that the new Devuan is a huge step backwards, compared with the first version. The desktop and menu are horrible eg icon-labels are not readable (consist of 4-6 letters or overlap other icons or are overlapped by the taskbar, many menu-items are under the wrong category etc. The first impression is really disappointing. | 13:41 |
| buZz | osdfhaoehgsdahgo: are you talking about XFCE? | 13:41 |
| buZz | or what | 13:41 |
| buZz | LXDE? | 13:41 |
| osdfhaoehgsdahgo | yes | 13:41 |
| buZz | gnome? | 13:41 |
| buZz | yes? | 13:41 |
| osdfhaoehgsdahgo | xfce | 13:41 |
| buZz | ok, havent looked at XFCE in ages | 13:41 |
| osdfhaoehgsdahgo | I think nobody did, or will | 13:41 |
| buZz | you are talking about the unreleased devuan version beowulf? | 13:41 |
| osdfhaoehgsdahgo | I was so impressed with the first Devuan | 13:42 |
| r3boot | osdfhaoehgsdahgo: you know, one of the nicest things about FLOSS, is that you can contribute yourself | 13:42 |
| osdfhaoehgsdahgo | I'm talking about the ASCII version | 13:42 |
| r3boot | So did you already file a bug report? | 13:42 |
| buZz | osdfhaoehgsdahgo: you mean, you liked ascii's default xfce themes? | 13:42 |
| osdfhaoehgsdahgo | I don't care about themes, I care about normal thing eg that an icon is identifiable, labels are readable, that a menu has some logic etc | 13:44 |
| osdfhaoehgsdahgo | It just a first impression, without touching/clicking anything | 13:44 |
| osdfhaoehgsdahgo | I don't like to be negative but had to tell, although I think no one really cares about trivial things. | 13:47 |
| r3boot | osdfhaoehgsdahgo: a lot of people care about it actually. The amount of people that reports it otoh is very slim, so in the end, not that much gets changed | 13:48 |
| r3boot | so, get your bugreport in, work with the devs, and fix it for all of us | 13:48 |
| osdfhaoehgsdahgo | r3boot: :) I don't consider this all as bugs but as bad development. Filing bug report about such trivial things is a waist of time if the reason why everyone neglect this basic rules is not clear to me. | 13:51 |
| r3boot | osdfhaoehgsdahgo: complaining about it on irc doesnt help a lot as well ;) | 13:52 |
| osdfhaoehgsdahgo | Thanks for reacting. I don't want to continue talking negative and wish you all good luck with ... | 13:52 |
| r3boot | hey, just trying to make devuan better for all of us | 13:52 |
| r3boot | (I love it that he used knoppix to report this ;') | 13:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | congrats! | 21:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | /topic update due? | 21:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | at very least s/2.0/2.1/ ? Give me a go | 21:19 |
| nemo | oh neat. new release | 21:19 |
| nemo | DocScrutinizer05: do I need to do anything on existing ascii devuan machines? | 21:19 |
| fsmithred | nemo, no. Just regular update/upgrade will do it. | 21:19 |
| nemo | cool | 21:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | nemo: sorry I'm completely out of the loop, busy with unrelated stuff since ages | 21:20 |
| fsmithred | What's new is that the installer isos have been rebuilt, so they are current. | 21:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | fsmithred: topic update? | 21:20 |
| nemo | spent a little bit of time unbreaking my SO's machine today btw | 21:20 |
| nemo | she suddenly needed virtualbox, and I'd updated the kernel with apt-get update -t ascii-updates | 21:20 |
| fsmithred | DocScrutinizer05, yeah, you can change 2.0 to 2.1 now. Thanks. | 21:21 |
| nemo | apparently that does not result in updating the headers unless you explicitly ask for them in -t ascii-updates too | 21:21 |
| nemo | so had 4.9 headers and 4.19 kernel | 21:21 |
| nemo | didn't help that I read 4.19 as 4.9 at first ☺ | 21:21 |
| malade_mental | just wanted to congratulate you for the 2.1 release, and for the choice of OpenRC which I use on gentoo and artixlinux since several years, and that is a very good default choice that is not frustrating for initV users | 22:18 |
| malade_mental | BRAVO! | 22:18 |
| fsmithred | malade_mental, thanks for the kind words, but the default is still sysvinit. If you want openrc, you can choose that during the install. | 22:19 |
| malade_mental | huh, that's even better! | 22:24 |
| fsmithred | we like choice | 22:25 |
| dbristow | Finally there is someone who is seeding the 2.1 torrent | 22:38 |
| dbristow | I hope they stay around until I finish downloading the whole torrent | 22:39 |
| fsmithred | 20GB | 22:39 |
| dbristow | 23.11 technically | 22:39 |
| fsmithred | yeah, that sounds better | 22:39 |
| dbristow | At least that's what transmission says the size is | 22:39 |
| dbristow | I've got 5.39G so far and if the seed stays around at this rate I will finish downloading in about 3 hours | 22:40 |
| dbristow | I was stuck at about 2.11G for several days though | 22:43 |
| fsmithred | probably nobody was seeding then | 22:43 |
| dbristow | Yup. | 22:43 |
| dbristow | once I finish downloading I usually seed until my ratio is 3.0 | 22:44 |
| fsmithred | thanks | 22:44 |
| dbristow | with the size of this torrent looks like that will take a while :( | 22:44 |
| fsmithred | I think most people just download one iso | 22:45 |
| dbristow | Well, if you broke up the torrent into individual torrents for each iso, I would too. | 22:47 |
| dbristow | One thing I wish torrent had was the original modification date of the files. | 22:47 |
| xrogaan | announcment on DNG about the release of 2.1. Isn't it a bit late? | 23:02 |
| fsmithred | xrogaan, nope. It's just right. | 23:04 |
| xrogaan | I thought it was released weeks ago :P | 23:05 |
| fsmithred | there were isos a couple weeks ago. | 23:05 |
| fsmithred | but the installer isos were replaced with better ones | 23:05 |
| xrogaan | gotcha | 23:29 |
| systemdlete | hello | 23:50 |
| systemdlete | the Ascii 2.1 release notes do not seem to expressly state how to upgrade from 2.0 to 2.1; they DO say how to upgrade from Beta or RC, though. Is it correct to assume the same applies to existing 2.0 installs? | 23:51 |
| systemdlete | Or is doing an update enough to get 2.1? | 23:51 |
| * systemdlete is trying hard, very hard, to follow instructions! | 23:51 | |
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