huhh | Can installing software using an AppImage compromise stability? It seemed that last time I installed Openshot on Devuan that it got less reliable, but it could have been something else I did. | 05:18 |
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n0a110w | i just did a fresh install from the ascii_2.1_amd64_netinst.iso and afterwards my ethernet interface shows 4 ipv4 inet addresses. kinda weird | 05:54 |
huhhh | 21 hours uptime! http://i.imgur.com/imKEb2K.png | 16:19 |
huhhh | but why is the swap file only at 256M? That is like a joke. | 16:20 |
huhhh | also, the screenshot app should be tied to the prtscn button on the keyboard | 16:20 |
huhhh | I almost crashed the computer via lockup because the swap file is so low as to be useless | 16:21 |
buZz | rofl | 17:04 |
huhhh | Don't make me break this thing! http://i.imgur.com/HIDbDJo.png | 17:28 |
fsmithred | 256mb is about four times what most people need | 18:20 |
golinux | huuhhh: <fsmithred> 256mb is about four times what most people need | 18:33 |
huuhhh | Since RAM is expensive compared to hdd space, Pareto optimalization would suggest a larger swap space would be better | 18:35 |
huuhhh | I notice that my RAM usage is now 330 MB off the bat since installing NVIDIA drivers, where it was 270 MB before. I also added the volume control applet, but when I got to adjust the volume control there is an awkward and redundant slider that comes up. | 18:42 |
huuhhh | http://i.imgur.com/EMIDSud.png | 18:42 |
specing | the 2000s are calling, they want their swap file back | 18:47 |
omnio | swapfiles are actually nice sometimes compared to swap partitions. When you install more distros that use the same swap partition, each one wants to format it and change its UUID | 18:50 |
omnio | I happened to run into this today | 18:51 |
huhhhhhhhhh | I fixed the redundant slider coming up... just uncheck the behaviour boxes, it's probably the 2nd one that causes the slider to appear http://i.imgur.com/YIRMgT6.png | 18:53 |
huhhhhhhhhh | I want to reinstall now.. I guess I will set up a swap drive ... | 18:55 |
huhhhhhhhhh | instead of using the stingy swap file | 18:55 |
huhhhhhhhhh | My demands are: Network Manager not useless wicd, which cannot even share ethernet with other computers... and Nvidia drivers not nouveau, so I don't have the nouveau modules clogging up the kernel | 18:57 |
huhhhhhhhhh | omnio... I might be done distro hopping for a while, if I can tame this beast Devuan | 19:04 |
omnio | I guess the network-manager part is easy, I don't know about the nvidia drivers, I don't use them | 19:06 |
fsmithred | huhhhhhhhhh, you can make a swap partition or you can change the size of the swapfile in the config file | 19:08 |
onefang | Or you can use swapspace, which does a swap file, but manages it's size dynamically as needed. | 19:38 |
huhhhhhhhhh | thanks, this is more like it! :-D http://i.imgur.com/ebbRx4g.png | 19:39 |
huhhhhhhhhh | fsmith, I used the fallocate command, mkswap and swapon/off... I don't think it is a config file unless I am mistaken... my fstab simply has 0 and 0 after teh swap heading | 19:44 |
huhhhhhhhhh | "/swapfileswapswapdefaults00" | 19:46 |
onefang | Those 0's don't relate to size. | 19:48 |
huhhh | I just closed a process under firefox that was using 100% of one of the processors at a time... and guess which tab didn't work afterward? freenode.net chat hahaha... I think I need to install an IRC program http://i.imgur.com/hJdWhD6.png | 19:54 |
huhhh | "Those 0's don't relate to size." Yes, I finally grokked that the swapfile is a persistent file, and not something that is set by a config, other than I guess to point that it is there... or so I surmise at this point in my understanding | 19:59 |
fsmithred | huhhh, the config file is /etc/refractainstaller.conf and you can set the size of the swapfile that gets created by the installer. | 20:59 |
fsmithred | or make one like you did | 20:59 |
systemdlete | (while attempting to remove sane-utils) dpkg: error processing package sane-utils (--remove): subprocess installed pre-removal script returned error exit status 3 | 22:02 |
systemdlete | true story, btw | 22:02 |
systemdlete | http://paste.debian.net/1121190/ | 22:08 |
systemdlete | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=862241 | 22:16 |
systemdlete | so maybe this bug is not yet merged into devuan ascii? (I'm just guessing here) | 22:16 |
systemdlete | so I edited the prerm file in /var/lib/dpkg/info for sane-utils and commented out the line for stopping the daemon(s): it was not the start-stop-daemon -- sounds like an outdated prerm script | 22:26 |
systemdlete | anyway, it is gone now. Hopefully those mysterious port 8610,8612 packets will stop now | 22:27 |
thomaspeteroberl | good evening, what kind of virtualisation tool would you recommend - until now i was working with virtualbox to virtualize a Win7 machine - i need virtualisation because the scanner i need to work with has no linux drivers ... - thank you for your recommendations & ideas | 22:49 |
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