| Mike_Y | Do you think I will need to setup kernel headers for VirtualBox to work for Whonix? | 00:00 |
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| Mike_Y | Does anyone have thoughts about what happened to Ian Murdock? | 00:03 |
| Mike_Y | Before Epstein... Ian Murdock did not kill himself | 00:08 |
| Mike_Y | Why??? Because 23,000 people starve to death and heaven each day from man made poverty. | 00:09 |
| Mike_Y | I guess that good news for the poor from Yeshua - Isaiah 61 | 00:09 |
| Mike_Y | Anyone here get V2K like others all over the world? | 00:11 |
| Mike_Y | Theres a binary blob for microwave processing of carbon/water in the body that they tried to push past Ian for probably 10 years. Wonder what my Nexus5 Ubuntu Touch is doing? | 00:12 |
| xrogaan | aptitude search ?obsolete: https://paste.debian.net/1131046/ | 04:50 |
| xrogaan | ouch | 04:50 |
| tom | I get a segfault when programs try to use libgdk in ascii | 04:55 |
| tom | x00007fffdad8737c in gdk_display_open () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0. | 04:56 |
| tom | does anybody know what this means? | 04:56 |
| tom | Only is this a problem in Devuan | 04:56 |
| tom | works fine in gentoo | 04:56 |
| tom | Thread 1 "qt5ct" received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. | 04:57 |
| gnarface | tom: got anything in there from backports or some other repo or version? | 05:16 |
| gnarface | tom: and are you fully updated? | 05:16 |
| tom | gnarface, yes I had to backport qt5ct | 05:16 |
| gnarface | tom: i mean, it's obviously broken, but this type of error could be caused by lots of stuff... anything from hardware failure to version mismatch. if you have anything from outside the repo though (like a backported version of qt5ct) that is the primary suspect | 05:17 |
| tom | but i tried both qt5-style-plugins/stable and a backport from beowulf | 05:17 |
| gnarface | tom: perhaps you need to backport some of its dependencies as well. perhaps it is not stable with all the ascii ones | 05:18 |
| tom | gnarface, how else do I tell qt5 to use the gtk2 styles if not qt5ct? | 05:18 |
| gnarface | tom: hell, perhaps it is not stable at all, perhaps you should report the bug, but i'm guessing this is version related | 05:18 |
| tom | no qt5-style-plugins is from ascii | 05:19 |
| gnarface | and for that matter, does it happen with every theme? | 05:19 |
| gnarface | might be a known bug and a broken theme | 05:19 |
| tom | yes, qt5ct segfaults every time i set it to gtk2 | 05:19 |
| gnarface | hmm, dunno what to tell you. it is above my head. make sure it is not happening on an all beowulf install... | 05:19 |
| gnarface | if you can | 05:20 |
| tom | ok | 05:22 |
| tom | brb i'm going to try editing Trolltech.conf by hand and relogging | 05:22 |
| tom | huh. gnarface it seems to work just fine after a relog | 05:24 |
| tom | even my local backport of qt5ct | 05:24 |
| tom | that was weird | 05:24 |
| gnarface | tom: is it possible you had forgotten to relog and/or run "ldconfig" after the initial install of the library? | 05:24 |
| tom | my gentoo desktop didn't require a relog tonot crash, just to get existing programs to takeup the new config | 05:24 |
| tom | gnarface, I was not aware an ldconfig was needed | 05:25 |
| gnarface | tom: well maybe your gentoo desktop wasn't using the other library anywhere else but this install was... | 05:25 |
| gnarface | (like in the window manager itself perhaps) | 05:25 |
| xrogaan | oh, wow, buster's version of less is 3 years old. | 05:25 |
| gnarface | tom: an ldconfig is *always* needed when adding, changing, or removing a library, but in a fair world usually the package manager or the package itself is smart enough to take care of it for you... but when building by hand... | 05:26 |
| tom | i guess portage did it for me on the other platform | 05:26 |
| gnarface | most likely | 05:27 |
| gnarface | don't worry... happens to the best of us | 05:29 |
| tom | now all the qt programs on Devuan ASCII look uniform with all the gtk2 programs | 05:29 |
| tom | https://0x0.st/i8pv.png | 05:29 |
| gnarface | congrats | 05:30 |
| tom | Devuan should do this by default yes? | 05:31 |
| tom | question about beowulf | 05:49 |
| tom | Will it not have nftables support or will it support both nftables and iptables? | 05:50 |
| tom | I have experimented on my gentoo system with nftables and converting over to it | 05:50 |
| tom | it's not as good as OpenBSD PacketFilter but it's certainly a welcome improvement to iptales | 05:51 |
| tom | however ASCII is NOT compatible with nftables yet | 05:51 |
| tom | I testing moving to it on ascii | 05:51 |
| tom | system just did not listen | 05:51 |
| furrywolf | beowulf is similar to the current debian release... if it's supported in debian, it will be supported in beowulf. I'm not familiar with nftables myself, so don't know offhand if it is or not. | 05:56 |
| tom | ok | 06:09 |
| tom | I heard a lot about the way Debian handling it pissing off devuaners with breaking iptables, and that that was part of the work going into beowulf before it releases | 06:09 |
| tom | so i was justconfirming | 06:09 |
| tom | btw | 06:09 |
| tom | just something cool i found | 06:09 |
| tom | https://0x0.st/i8JW.png | 06:09 |
| tom | xosview is much more capable of hooking into the kernel that it first appears | 06:10 |
| tom | after using NetBSD for a while (masterpiece of an OS I must say) found out you can do things like represent IRQs and interrupts as LEDS | 06:10 |
| tom | it's very interesting | 06:11 |
| tom | seeing how the linux kernel optimizes itself in realtime. for example my PS/2 keyboard is always on a very low IRQ (one of the reasons I only buy motherboards with PS/2 or AT or similar keyboard interfaces) and seeing how moving my mouse will generate 1k IRQ/s and then stablize down to ~250/s or so | 06:13 |
| tom | and see just how busy the network card keeps the system | 06:13 |
| tom | apparently this tool is smart enough to differentiate hypervisor and kernel waits on linux 2.6+ | 06:15 |
| tom | so you can use this to visualize steal on a virtual machine | 06:15 |
| tom | unfortunately Graphics Coproc usage is only supported in IRIX | 06:19 |
| tom | I wonder if there is some sysctl or procfs i could pull from in Linux to get that number | 06:20 |
| * xrogaan has no idea of what is being talked about | 06:33 | |
| Mike_Y | Question: Do you think Whonix will work in backports Virtualbox? | 17:30 |
| Mike_Y | Before I reinstall Devuan for 64bit? Is Devuan running Whonix? | 17:31 |
| xrogaan | one thing I liked about gksudo is that it was able to complete the line using sbin's content. pkexec is just useless. | 18:46 |
| xrogaan | you need to type the full path of the application you want to start | 18:46 |
| xrogaan | isn't there a way to get gksu[do] back? | 18:46 |
| xrogaan | pkexec feels like a regression. | 18:47 |
| xrogaan | $ pkexec synaptic | 18:55 |
| xrogaan | Cannot run program synaptic: No such file or directory | 18:55 |
| James1138 | https://itsfoss.com/gksu-replacement-ubuntu/ | 18:56 |
| James1138 | https://pkgs.org/download/gksu | 18:57 |
| mason | So, I did an in-place upgrade from a newly installed Vanilla ASCII to Beowulf the other day on a VM, and the screen blanked out at some point with the VM frozen. I'll have to try it again, and maybe use a netconsole to get logs, but I'm curious if this is a new thing, as I've done the upgrade before unproblematically. | 20:10 |
| _abc_ | Hi. Anyone here have a Qualcomm/Atheros QCA9377 wifi adapter working? I am trying to find out what version of kernel supports it, ascii or beowulf ? | 21:19 |
| _abc_ | This seems to have been around since 2016 and had trouble with older kernel versions | 21:20 |
| fsmithred | AR9285 here | 21:20 |
| _abc_ | ascii is 4.9.0-8-686 and some messages seem to indicate the QCA started working right from 4.8 . Suggest a way to check? Read config perhaps? | 21:21 |
| fsmithred | yeah, look in /boot/config& | 21:21 |
| fsmithred | &=* | 21:21 |
| fsmithred | try bpo kernel | 21:22 |
| fsmithred | ascii-backports has 4.19 | 21:22 |
| _abc_ | /boot/config* has QUALCOMM in it but not specifically QCA9377 | 21:22 |
| _abc_ | fsmithred: and hi | 21:22 |
| fsmithred | hi | 21:22 |
| fsmithred | does lspci see it? | 21:23 |
| _abc_ | Do you have a direct link to the sources online? I'm going to grep them but I do not have the kernel source unpacked on this machine | 21:23 |
| fsmithred | I don't | 21:23 |
| _abc_ | fsmithred: it's in a laptop I plan to buy :) doing research on drivers beforehead. | 21:23 |
| fsmithred | might be at salsa.debian.org | 21:23 |
| fsmithred | that's where it's supposed to be | 21:23 |
| _abc_ | What would the filename be... | 21:24 |
| fsmithred | damn, I don't remember where that stuff is. It's been a few years. | 21:24 |
| fsmithred | something net something drivers | 21:26 |
| fsmithred | try debian wiki for that model number | 21:26 |
| _abc_ | ath10k-firmware is the package which should contain the driver for this | 21:27 |
| fsmithred | sounds right. Mine is older and is using ath9k | 21:27 |
| fsmithred | you want to try a live iso with newer kernel and wireless firmware installed? | 21:27 |
| _abc_ | have you got /usr/lib/firmware/ath10k/QCA9377/hw1.0/firmware-5.bin ? | 21:29 |
| fsmithred | oh, nm. They won't let you do that in a store. | 21:29 |
| _abc_ | fsmithred: I can try it in the store, I told you about this here some time ago. | 21:29 |
| _abc_ | /usr/lib/firmware is missing here. | 21:30 |
| fsmithred | same here | 21:30 |
| fsmithred | try /lib/firmware | 21:30 |
| _abc_ | sudo apt-get install ath10k-firmware -> E: Unable to locate package ath10k-firmware | 21:31 |
| fsmithred | right | 21:31 |
| fsmithred | for one thing they all start with firmware- | 21:31 |
| fsmithred | firmware-atheros | 21:31 |
| fsmithred | if it's not already in the kernel | 21:31 |
| _abc_ | ls /lib/firmware/ath10k/QCA9377/hw1.0/firmware-5.bin exists | 21:31 |
| fsmithred | I don't have it installed, but the wireless works | 21:31 |
| fsmithred | lsmod |grep ath | 21:32 |
| _abc_ | this is ascii on 4.9 | 21:32 |
| _abc_ | fsmithred: that does not help since the module is not on this machine | 21:32 |
| _abc_ | I just try to infer if there is support in ascii:: there is | 21:32 |
| _abc_ | beowulf should also have it, perhaps newer version | 21:32 |
| _abc_ | are you on beowulf fsmithred ? | 21:32 |
| fsmithred | yes | 21:33 |
| _abc_ | What's under /lib/firmware/ath10k/QCA9377/ ? | 21:33 |
| fsmithred | I have /lib/firmware but no ath in it | 21:33 |
| _abc_ | What's the ath10k firmware package called | 21:33 |
| fsmithred | should be firmware-atheros | 21:34 |
| _abc_ | yes, correct per dlocate | 21:34 |
| _abc_ | So you likely do not have that installed? | 21:34 |
| _abc_ | Strange | 21:34 |
| fsmithred | nope | 21:34 |
| fsmithred | didn't need it | 21:34 |
| _abc_ | Ok | 21:34 |
| _abc_ | Mystery elucidated. | 21:34 |
| _abc_ | Anyone else on reading this care to comment on their /lib/firmware/ath10k/QCA9377/* ? | 21:34 |
| fsmithred | I can't modprobe ath10k | 21:35 |
| _abc_ | I don't think you need to modprobe it, pulling in the package should install it | 21:35 |
| _abc_ | You said you are on ath9 I think? | 21:35 |
| fsmithred | yeah | 21:36 |
| fsmithred | was just checking to see if it was there | 21:36 |
| _abc_ | https://forum.manjaro.org/t/solved-qca9377-wireless-device-not-working-after-upgraded-linux-4-14-85-1/68194 this thread has references showing the firmware is from 2013 | 21:36 |
| fsmithred | I'm booting up a beowulf live-iso to see if it has it | 21:36 |
| _abc_ | So there's already version 6 fw for that | 21:36 |
| _abc_ | fsmithred: oh, nice | 21:36 |
| _abc_ | They also say 4.9 kernel should work with fw 5 and 4.19 with 6 | 21:37 |
| _abc_ | which distribution is the "pre compiled" arch again? manjaro? | 21:38 |
| fsmithred | I have firmware-5.bin and firmware-6.bin | 21:40 |
| _abc_ | great. Thanks, I'm set. | 21:41 |
| fsmithred | firmware-atheros is installed here | 21:41 |
| _abc_ | So was it in a different location? | 21:41 |
| _abc_ | You could not find it before. Or are you talking about the booted iso? | 21:41 |
| _abc_ | fsmithred: anything new re: refractausb ? | 21:43 |
| _abc_ | I'm about to config a new usb stick in the multi boot refracta way. | 21:44 |
| fsmithred | I think 2.4.2 is the newest one out there | 21:45 |
| fsmithred | I just built a newer one but haven't tested it yet, and the only change is the stuff for patch-initrd which you probably aren't using | 21:45 |
| _abc_ | I am not sure what I have. Probably 2 years old. What I have. | 21:55 |
| _abc_ | Do you have a link to the d/l repo? | 21:55 |
| _abc_ | I have readme for 2.3.6 and the real r2u 2.4.1.deb | 21:56 |
| _abc_ | brb food | 21:56 |
| fsmithred | https://sourceforge.net/projects/refracta/files/tools/refracta2usb-2.4.2.deb | 22:00 |
| _abc_ | re. Thanks fsmithred | 22:21 |
| _abc_ | Any changes from the help files from 2.3.6? | 22:23 |
| fsmithred | _abc_, I don't think so. Changelogs are copied to the page where that .deb came from. | 22:50 |
| _abc_ | ok, thanks fsmithred | 22:58 |
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