| tuxd3v | it works in ext4 which supports trimm operations | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| tuxd3v | I don't know if it will work on zfs to be honest | 00:00 |
| tuxd3v | no way, I can't get a list of libva* packages | 00:05 |
| tuxd3v | and the problem is that I need a ton of them to compile this project: | 00:06 |
| tuxd3v | https://github.com/bootlin/libva-v4l2-request | 00:06 |
| tuxd3v | at least libva 2.6.1; libdrm 2.4.100 | 00:07 |
| tuxd3v | libva-dev in ceres could be correct by I can't fetch it I don't know why | 00:07 |
| fsmithred | how did you try to get it? | 00:08 |
| tuxd3v | I tried with apt-get | 00:08 |
| tuxd3v | apt-get install libva-dev | 00:08 |
| tuxd3v | it has a lot of dependencies... | 00:08 |
| tuxd3v | not a lot but some 10 or so | 00:09 |
| fsmithred | just wants 5 here | 00:09 |
| tuxd3v | but then each one has its dependencies and some maybe 30 packages total | 00:09 |
| fsmithred | I probably already installed the other five | 00:09 |
| tuxd3v | is crazy to do by hand | 00:09 |
| tuxd3v | yes but in ceres version | 00:10 |
| tuxd3v | it will have its dependencies on that packages | 00:10 |
| tuxd3v | and they are high in version numbers | 00:10 |
| fsmithred | are you not running ceres? | 00:10 |
| tuxd3v | in amd64 ascii: | 00:11 |
| tuxd3v | https://paste2.org/OCLYL1I1 | 00:11 |
| tuxd3v | but since I need at least version 1.1 | 00:12 |
| tuxd3v | the versions in ascii wether the packages are high in numbers report as bellow version 1 | 00:12 |
| fsmithred | if you want to run the ceres version in ascii, you would need to backport it | 00:13 |
| fsmithred | probably easier to do it in ceres instead | 00:13 |
| fsmithred | maybe in a ceres chroot | 00:14 |
| tuxd3v | in ascii: | 00:14 |
| tuxd3v | Requested 'libva >= 1.1.0' but version of libva is 0.39.4 | 00:14 |
| tuxd3v | in ceres would be nice | 00:14 |
| tuxd3v | devuan as a package search list like debian has, I believe :) | 00:15 |
| tuxd3v | I don't know what is the url to manual package search | 00:15 |
| fsmithred | where are you getting that version number? | 00:16 |
| fsmithred | I see 1.7.3-2 in ascii | 00:16 |
| fsmithred | for libva-dev | 00:16 |
| tuxd3v | yeah, I saw that too :) | 00:16 |
| tuxd3v | I don't know, but when you try to conpile the project first you run autogen.sh | 00:16 |
| tuxd3v | and it brakes in that line | 00:16 |
| tuxd3v | complaining about libva | 00:17 |
| fsmithred | you're not making debian packages? | 00:17 |
| tuxd3v | no first I am trying to compile it, to use in CEDRUS encoding/decoding for arm devicews :) | 00:18 |
| tuxd3v | devicews -> devices | 00:18 |
| tuxd3v | then a package could be made of it | 00:18 |
| fsmithred | ok. I have no idea what that is. | 00:18 |
| tuxd3v | its a strange thing | 00:18 |
| tuxd3v | its to have hardware aceleration for video | 00:19 |
| tuxd3v | the userspace part | 00:19 |
| fsmithred | but I have been in dependency hell while compiling packages | 00:19 |
| tuxd3v | the kernel space is the CEDRUS driver | 00:19 |
| tuxd3v | yeah in asciim it should be amazing :) | 00:20 |
| tom_work | tuxd3v, I'm trying to build it by hand instead of using ceres or a backport | 00:21 |
| tom_work | tuxd3v, using this guide https://klaus-hartnegg.de/gpo/2017-11-29-ZFS-in-Devuan.html | 00:21 |
| tom_work | and adjusting for version | 00:21 |
| tom_work | 8 | 00:21 |
| tom_work | if you try this know that version 8 no longer requires spl | 00:21 |
| tom_work | fsmithred, I think it's mostly just the packaging from contrib was very poorly done and systemd-ified | 00:22 |
| tom_work | there's not really a dependency hell for zfs8 | 00:22 |
| tom_work | but i guess we'll see | 00:22 |
| tom_work | zfs8 only requires basic things like build-essential, dkms, and kernel headers | 00:23 |
| tuxd3v | tom_work, for what I see here: | 00:25 |
| tuxd3v | https://klaus-hartnegg.de/gpo/2017-11-29-ZFS-in-Devuan.html | 00:25 |
| tuxd3v | is requires some dependencies | 00:25 |
| tuxd3v | and it could be hel to find the minimum versions that it requires.. | 00:25 |
| tuxd3v | hel -> hell | 00:25 |
| tom_work | actually it just finished compiling and packaging a dev | 00:29 |
| tom_work | *deb | 00:29 |
| tom_work | time to isntall and see if i works | 00:29 |
| tom_work | it looks like the upstream source has the ability to generate a deb file itself | 00:31 |
| tom_work | with help of the 'alien' package | 00:31 |
| tom_work | it's in the build system | 00:31 |
| tom_work | make -j1 deb | 00:31 |
| tom_work | this is more updated https://klaus-hartnegg.de/gpo/2019-05-28-ZFS-08-in-Devuan.html | 01:06 |
| systemdlete | Beowulf beta release notes: - Note that firefox-esr no longer requires pulseaudio. You can easily | 01:59 |
| systemdlete | remove pulseaudio and just use alsa. | 02:00 |
| systemdlete | YAY!!!! | 02:00 |
| systemdlete | (thank you!) | 02:00 |
| fsmithred | thank debian for that | 02:06 |
| Unit193 | Huh. | 02:09 |
| Unit193 | Last I knew mozilla didn't support the alsa backend. | 02:09 |
| fsmithred | mozilla doesn't | 02:16 |
| fsmithred | firefox-esr team does | 02:16 |
| Unit193 | Thought they were kind of the same. | 02:18 |
| fsmithred | I believe debian fixes it | 02:21 |
| fsmithred | it's like that in ascii, too | 02:22 |
| Jjp137 | yes last time I checked it was built with --enable-alsa | 02:43 |
| tuxd3v | hello all | 02:58 |
| tuxd3v | are this source4s.list correct for ceres? | 02:59 |
| tuxd3v | https://paste2.org/HeFFmNXN | 02:59 |
| tuxd3v | can anyone helpme to go on ceres ? | 03:11 |
| tuxd3v | what I need to do, appart from setting sources.list? | 03:11 |
| gnarface | not clicking on that, but it's just this: | 03:12 |
| gnarface | deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged ceres main | 03:12 |
| gnarface | deb-src http://deb.devuan.org/merged ceres main | 03:12 |
| ukine-lap | or getting ceres media | 03:12 |
| tuxd3v | it cannot be 'main contrib non-free' ? | 03:13 |
| tuxd3v | I receive : | 03:15 |
| tuxd3v | E: Release file for http://deb.devuan.org/merged/dists/ceres/InRelease is not valid yet (invalid for another 18290d 11h 6min 50s). Updates for this repository will not be applied. | 03:15 |
| gnarface | first of all, yes, it can be 'main contrib non-free' instead, are you sure your local time is right? | 03:15 |
| furrywolf | that's my first thought as well... your ntp client died, your timezone is set wrong, etc. | 03:16 |
| furrywolf | or someone broke the archive, that's possible too. :) | 03:17 |
| furrywolf | date in that file looks correct. | 03:17 |
| tuxd3v | no, i was back in 70' s :D | 03:18 |
| tuxd3v | maybe a reboot | 03:18 |
| tuxd3v | its a sbc board | 03:18 |
| tuxd3v | :D | 03:18 |
| ukine-lap | neat | 03:18 |
| gnarface | ntpdate is a neat tool if you don't want to run ntpd, but if it is a sbc board you should probably run ntpd | 03:18 |
| ukine-lap | i had an olimex for a while | 03:18 |
| ukine-lap | ditto what gnarface said | 03:18 |
| tuxd3v | yeah, or put ntpdate in rc.local | 03:18 |
| tuxd3v | with the local ntpserver | 03:19 |
| tuxd3v | thanks :) | 03:19 |
| tuxd3v | ceres-updates and ceres-security doesn't make sense right? | 03:20 |
| gnarface | correct | 03:24 |
| tuxd3v | thanks :) | 03:33 |
| tuxd3v | it died :) | 03:45 |
| tuxd3v | but no problem, nice that I have a beowulf image right here :) | 03:46 |
| manchot | just learned that systemd now have a systemd-home, what the fuck is this about? | 04:26 |
| tuxd3v | manchot, is something very very weird | 04:27 |
| manchot | call me dump or linux-illiterate, but I never experienced the "problems" system fucking D tried to solve | 04:27 |
| tuxd3v | systemd primitives were that shell scripts need to die, a lot of links in /etc/rc.?, so ugly, its what they said at the time.. | 04:28 |
| tuxd3v | but the truth is that they created a monster that doesn't adress mode than half of the problems they said it would | 04:29 |
| manchot | too much control. linux is about choices | 04:29 |
| tuxd3v | and created a lot of incompatibilities, ywith the system | 04:29 |
| tuxd3v | it has its sort of language, which is a scripting language lool, but its not even touring complete | 04:29 |
| tuxd3v | :D | 04:29 |
| tuxd3v | its a mess | 04:29 |
| manchot | and some of its followers believe because it is 'new' 'trendy', so it is good | 04:29 |
| tuxd3v | you still have to run scripts to execute work | 04:30 |
| tuxd3v | so no by service you need at least 2 files | 04:30 |
| tuxd3v | one for the system unit and the other for the script it will call | 04:30 |
| onefang | This is a Devuan support channel, take this conversation to #debianfork. | 04:31 |
| tuxd3v | and now you have zillions of symbolic links that you haven't before with SysVinit | 04:31 |
| tuxd3v | onefang, you right, my apologies | 04:31 |
| golinux | onefang: Thanks for noticing. | 04:33 |
| tissy | buongiorno! Non so se è il canale giusto, ma ho appena aggiornato da ascii a beowulf, e volevo segnalare che nella schermata di grub fra le opzioni selezionabili spunta "Debian" e non "Devuan". | 13:14 |
| * specing calls spock to beam down a pair of universal translators | 13:15 | |
| specing | oh damn, it was scotty! | 13:15 |
| gnarface | according to translate.google.com: good morning! I don't know if it is the right channel, but I just updated from ascii to beowulf, and I wanted to report that in the grub screen between the selectable options check "Debian" and not "Devuan". | 13:16 |
| tissy | oh i'm very sorry for using my language. | 13:17 |
| gnarface | tissy: http://bugs.devuan.org/ | 13:17 |
| tissy | thanks! | 13:17 |
| gnarface | there might be a #devuan-es | 13:18 |
| gnarface | i forget | 13:18 |
| tissy | i'm italian | 13:18 |
| gnarface | or it or whatever that is | 13:18 |
| gnarface | sorry | 13:18 |
| tissy | np :) | 13:18 |
| fsmithred | I think the Italians all hang out here | 13:18 |
| fsmithred | tissy, do you have the signed grub package? | 13:19 |
| fsmithred | grub-efi-amd64-signed | 13:19 |
| fsmithred | the default configuration lets you use secure boot | 13:20 |
| fsmithred | you can change all that if you want | 13:20 |
| tissy | oh i forgot to tell that i'm booting from a vmù | 13:20 |
| tissy | *vm | 13:20 |
| Joril | tissy: I've just added GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR=Devuan to /etc/default/grub :) | 13:27 |
| fsmithred | ^^^ That's the easiest way to do it | 13:27 |
| tissy | trying it :) anyway i'm going to report, maybe someone can correct this | 13:32 |
| fsmithred | don't bother to file a bug report | 13:33 |
| tissy | ok | 13:33 |
| mason | Joril: Oh, I'd wondered about that myself. Thank you. | 13:33 |
| mason | fsmithred: Do we have a plan to address that generally, or is it cosmetic enough that folks don't think it matters much? | 13:33 |
| fsmithred | we let it do that for two reasons: grub-signed for secure boot and also to ID the system for some third-party software | 13:34 |
| fsmithred | sure, get all those third parties to recognize us | 13:34 |
| fsmithred | if you don't have the signed grub package, you can change /etc/os-release to say ID=devuan | 13:35 |
| fsmithred | then update-grub will call it Devuan in the menu | 13:36 |
| mason | kk | 13:37 |
| tissy | ty | 13:37 |
| ErRandir | what is the debian equivalent of devuan ascii please? | 13:40 |
| fsmithred | ascii=stretch | 13:40 |
| fsmithred | beowulf=buster | 13:41 |
| fsmithred | chimaera=bullseye | 13:41 |
| ErRandir | thanks! | 13:41 |
| fsmithred | ceres=sid | 13:41 |
| mason | golinux: Just saw the beta announcement. That's pretty exciting. | 20:53 |
| mason | Snagging images now to test the installer. | 20:53 |
| golinux | mason: Have fun! | 21:10 |
| TwistedFate | is there a way for me to set chroma subsampling on gnu+linux for amdgpu/mesa? | 22:06 |
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