Bjornn | This pastebin shows the error I get when doing an upgrade. Has to do with google chrome update apparently. Anyone suggest any changes I should make to resolve this? | 02:15 |
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Bjornn | https://pastebin.com/Ggh3EKGX | 02:15 |
fsmithred | Bjornn, it looks like you don't have the gpg key for that repo. Easy quick solution is to comment out that repo and do the upgrade again, then solve the problem with the chrome repo. | 02:26 |
Bjornn | is that the wrong repo address? | 02:29 |
fonky | hi | 02:29 |
Bjornn | hey fonky | 02:29 |
fonky | what´s up besides the sky moon and stars | 02:30 |
fonky | :) | 02:30 |
fsmithred | I don't know the repo address for google chrome. It's been years since I've installed that. | 02:30 |
fonky | https://www.google.com/linuxrepositories/ | 02:32 |
fonky | deb http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main | 02:32 |
fonky | although who would want to use it =.= | 02:33 |
fsmithred | that will get you the buster/beowulf version | 02:33 |
Bjornn | They still hold me hostage with my password saves | 02:33 |
fsmithred | ? | 02:34 |
fsmithred | you can't see your saved passwords? | 02:34 |
fonky | use a password manager | 02:34 |
fonky | pen and paper serves best | 02:34 |
Bjornn | the most secure for sure | 02:35 |
koollman | or least ... do you want to copy real complex password from paper ? :) | 02:35 |
fonky | i actually do | 02:35 |
fonky | :) | 02:35 |
fonky | since the patriot act+ | 02:36 |
fonky | e.g. busted hardware | 02:36 |
tuxd3v | fonky, what is the patriot act? | 02:36 |
[steve] | I have /etc/apt/sources.list populated for upgrading from ASCII to Beowolf. But | 02:37 |
Bjornn | I'm not sure where this deb http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main is stored. appears not to be in sources.list | 02:37 |
fonky | opressive trade deal enforced through governments of the planet | 02:37 |
[steve] | 'apt-get update' fails and can't find the Release file. | 02:38 |
fonky | posing as a trade deal, part of agenda 2030 and 2040 | 02:38 |
fonky | orvels wet dream | 02:38 |
fonky | Bjornn: you do have to manually input it, and get the key first | 02:38 |
fsmithred | chromium from the repo is not sufficient? | 02:40 |
fsmithred | from devuan repo I mean | 02:40 |
Bjornn | It's probably lighter | 02:40 |
Bjornn | I should give that a go. | 02:40 |
fonky | apt-get --allow-unauthenticated | 02:40 |
fonky | maybe | 02:40 |
fsmithred | it has less spyware in it | 02:40 |
fsmithred | [steve], you just changed ascii to beowulf in sources.list? | 02:42 |
fsmithred | using deb.devuan.org? | 02:42 |
[steve] | fsmithred: I re-wrote sources.list as described at https://beta.devuan.org/os/documentation/dev1fanboy/en/upgrade-to-beowulf | 02:43 |
fsmithred | ok | 02:43 |
[steve] | --allow-unauthenticated doen't help. apt-get update still ignores eveything | 02:44 |
fsmithred | oh, I think that advice might not have been for you | 02:44 |
[steve] | heheh | 02:44 |
fsmithred | you might be hitting a bottleneck in the network | 02:44 |
[steve] | I guess that could be a real issue these days ... | 02:45 |
[steve] | apt-get update | 02:47 |
fsmithred | I just checked the mirror checker and it looks like several are down right now | 02:47 |
[steve] | Ign:1 http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowolf InRelease | 02:47 |
[steve] | ... etc ... | 02:47 |
fsmithred | I did just hit pkgmaster.devuan.org ok | 02:47 |
fsmithred | hang on... | 02:47 |
fsmithred | https://sledjhamr.org/apt-panopticon/results/Report-web.html | 02:48 |
fonky | btw | 02:48 |
fonky | is devuan dropping museek? | 02:48 |
fsmithred | I don't have a lot of experience reading that page, but I think you want to pick one that does not have "Failed" next to it. | 02:48 |
fsmithred | never heard of museek | 02:49 |
fsmithred | is it in debian? | 02:49 |
fonky | it was | 02:49 |
fonky | in 8 | 02:49 |
[steve] | fsmithred: thanks ... I'll poke at it a bit | 02:50 |
fonky | also in devuan 1.0 | 02:50 |
fsmithred | good luck | 02:50 |
fonky | really good stuff | 02:50 |
fsmithred | we have whatever debian has except for the stuff that requires systemd | 02:50 |
fonky | ubuntu also dropped the package in 14.04 | 02:51 |
fonky | after sorry | 02:51 |
fonky | amule for music :) | 02:51 |
fonky | oh | 02:53 |
fonky | found something | 02:53 |
fonky | its called nicotine now | 02:53 |
[steve] | fsmithred: same end result with pkgmaster... here's one of my final error messages: | 02:55 |
[steve] | E: Failed to fetch http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/dists/beowolf/main/binary-amd64/Packages 404 Not Found | 02:55 |
golinux | beowUlf not o | 02:56 |
[steve] | d'oh ... I can't read | 02:56 |
fsmithred | oh | 02:56 |
golinux | But that still doesn't look right | 02:56 |
fsmithred | lower case u | 02:57 |
golinux | Of course. I did that for emphasis | 02:58 |
[steve] | It's working now (with the lower case u). Sorry for the wasted brain cycles :( | 02:58 |
fonky | try http://auto.mirror.devuan.org or http://deb.devuan.org | 02:58 |
fsmithred | don't use auto.mirror | 02:58 |
golinux | auto,mirror has been deprecated since last year | 02:58 |
fonky | auto.mirror works like a slug or maybe its just my slow notebook | 02:58 |
[steve] | fonky: I did revert from pkgmaster. to deb. | 02:58 |
fsmithred | deb.devuan.org appears to be working here | 02:59 |
fsmithred | yup. update worked. | 02:59 |
[steve] | Fetched 41.8 MB in 21s (1,914 kB/s) | 02:59 |
fonky | i didnt change those for years :) | 03:00 |
fsmithred | please switch back to deb.devuan.org - that's the round-robin, so we don't have everyone hitting on the main server | 03:00 |
fsmithred | auto.mirror will probably go away after jessie is out of support | 03:00 |
* [steve] performs an apt-get dist-upgrade | 03:01 | |
Bjornn | does that command bring everything up to ascii 2.1? | 03:02 |
[steve] | Bjornn: I'm moving to beofulf | 03:03 |
[steve] | ... beowulf | 03:03 |
golinux | Try again | 03:03 |
golinux | LOL! | 03:03 |
Bjornn | haha. it's all good. | 03:03 |
yeti | I can drop my nick beo_ulf for you | 03:04 |
yeti | oh... looks like I did already... | 03:05 |
golinux | freenode purged old nicks today | 03:06 |
golinux | There was a status message thatthey were going to get rif og unused nicks. | 03:07 |
golinux | rid of | 03:07 |
yeti | """next weekend (April 12th to April 15th 2020) we will purge unused nicks""" | 03:07 |
DonkeyHotei | it's not April 12th yet | 03:08 |
yeti | <muppetmartian> yip yip </muppetmartian> | 03:09 |
golinux | I didn't get to the date. My reading comprehension sucks these days. Words are too wordy and boring | 03:09 |
fonky | what is the apt command for dry run | 03:09 |
fonky | --dry-run? | 03:09 |
DonkeyHotei | -s | 03:09 |
golinux | DonkeyHotei: Thanks for getting back on topic | 03:11 |
DonkeyHotei | yw | 03:11 |
fonky | ty | 03:12 |
fonky | lxde does not necesarilly use pulseaudio like the rest of the desktop shells? | 03:15 |
fonky | by default | 03:15 |
* Xenguy wonders if LXDE has solved the problem of providing various automatic notifications... | 03:17 | |
fonky | Xenguy: no | 03:23 |
Xenguy | I very much like LXDE otherwise. | 03:24 |
fonky | also | 03:24 |
Xenguy | MATE has that stuff, but is probably heavier than LXDE. | 03:24 |
fonky | havent tried multi monitor config yet | 03:24 |
Xenguy | Here there be dragons! | 03:25 |
fonky | mate has it solved well | 03:25 |
fonky | xfce not so much :) | 03:25 |
fonky | last time i checked, but the second screen is dead atm | 03:25 |
Xenguy | Good to hear it, I mostly used a laptop screen alone for non-work stuff | 03:25 |
Xenguy | I would have thought XFCE would have had that covered, but oh well | 03:26 |
fonky | getting a pair of screens next week, will report | 03:26 |
Xenguy | I'd love to hear how it goes, good luck with that. | 03:27 |
fonky | oh it will either work or not :) | 03:27 |
Xenguy | Have you heard of that xrandr tool (or whatever it's called) ? | 03:27 |
fonky | yeah | 03:27 |
Xenguy | Hopefully you won't have to go there, but it's there if you need it | 03:28 |
fonky | is xrandr used to configure multi screens aswell | 03:28 |
Xenguy | I've seen people do that | 03:28 |
fonky | i just used it to set the resolution of the main | 03:28 |
Xenguy | I mean I've read that people use it for that | 03:28 |
Xenguy | Probably take some research | 03:29 |
[steve] | time for the post upgrade reboot ... | 03:32 |
[steve] | My xmobar broke ... | 03:34 |
* [steve] uses xmonad | 03:35 | |
fonky | oh nice | 03:38 |
fonky | devuan added geeqie | 03:38 |
fonky | is there any way | 03:40 |
fonky | to get an older .deb package of thunderbird | 03:41 |
fonky | preferably in the 40.x era | 03:41 |
fonky | pkgs.org only has 52.x.x.x | 03:42 |
[steve] | bbiab | 03:42 |
fsmithred | archive.debian.org, I think | 03:42 |
fonky | ty | 03:42 |
Xenguy | fonky: geeqie (my gawd, the names they choose, and try remembering them) looks pretty interesting | 03:53 |
fonky | i think it has slideshow | 03:55 |
fonky | which is nice | 03:55 |
fonky | still cant compete with xnview for linux | 03:56 |
fonky | but that program as a whole is another matter and closed source | 03:57 |
Xenguy | I have tried to stick to FOSS for quite some years now. I'm happy there. | 04:14 |
* Xenguy thinks, it's video time... | 04:15 | |
Bjornn | for anyone following along, this is what fixed my no_pub_key issue: wget -q -O - https://dl.google.com/linux/linux_signing_key.pub | sudo apt-key add - | 04:21 |
* tuxd3v Xenguy means gaming time?Alien Arena? :) | 04:21 | |
Bjornn | doom eternal maybe | 04:22 |
Bjornn | crazy graphics | 04:22 |
Xenguy | tuxd3v: nah, more like movies or TV | 04:26 |
Xenguy | I d/l'd a ton today | 04:27 |
tuxd3v | I pkay sometimes, not fevy often, but yeah sometimes.. only Alien aRena | 04:31 |
tuxd3v | Arena | 04:31 |
tuxd3v | I compiled it for i386 and is working nice :) | 04:31 |
tuxd3v | s/fevy/very/ | 04:35 |
tuxd3v | devuan only have the 7.66+dfsg-3 version which now is obsolete unfortunatly | 04:36 |
meep_____ | Xenguy: Xonotic | 07:57 |
tponaf | Xenguy: geeqie used to be gqview (i still rename it), and a fairly straightforward image viewer. It went for decades without animated gif support. | 08:01 |
tponaf | And ldd it to see how much it pulls-in | 08:01 |
Xenguy | OK, I remember gqview, good to know | 08:02 |
tponaf | now it's pretty bloated and still can't do animated png | 08:03 |
tponaf | i'd like an image/slideshow viewer that grossfades the pictures in slideshow (like gliv) but also has animated png support, and can apply lightness/contrast/gamma to pictures during load/playback | 08:05 |
tponaf | apt-file search blessed be apt-file search | 09:50 |
yeti | orz | 09:57 |
* tponaf builds packages | 10:37 | |
fonky | hey | 12:59 |
fonky | anyone has an idea if there is any alternative not tied to gnome for nautilus-sushi | 12:59 |
fonky | i found gloobus | 12:59 |
fonky | are there any other? | 12:59 |
fonky | oh nevermind used grep :) | 13:30 |
tponaf | hi fonky | 13:39 |
fonky | hey tponaf | 13:39 |
tponaf | what do you want | 13:39 |
fonky | i i found the solution | 13:39 |
fonky | oh i? | 13:39 |
tponaf | k | 13:39 |
fonky | * | 13:39 |
fonky | it was just nasty because i had to look over 130k txt files | 13:40 |
fonky | which were recovered | 13:40 |
fonky | and i had no clue what to grep for | 13:40 |
tponaf | it is good to learn the unix utility toolkit | 13:40 |
fonky | but then i remembered | 13:40 |
tponaf | ah yes | 13:40 |
fonky | in any case i was looking for something akin to https://pooi.moe/QuickLook/ | 13:43 |
fonky | found gloobus and sushi | 13:43 |
fonky | but both for gnome, none more or less shell independant | 13:43 |
tponaf | hm | 13:46 |
tponaf | you can / search with less | 13:47 |
meep_____ | Gnome-devs /REALLY/ like feet, in case you haven't noticed | 19:26 |
furrywolf | there's a box on e621 for that... | 19:27 |
meep_____ | I'm not a gnome-dev furrywolf | 19:34 |
DonkeyHotei | not everyone can prefer metres | 19:38 |
furrywolf | lol | 19:50 |
frabbit | hi. why this package is not in devuan anymore: https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/d1pkgweb-query?search=python-farstream&release=any | 21:19 |
frabbit | i need that to use webcam and microphone in gajim 0.16.6 | 21:22 |
furrywolf | it was removed from debian, with the suggestion to install it with pip instead. | 21:22 |
frabbit | furrywolf: pip? | 21:24 |
furrywolf | looks like it got removed because of a dependency on GStreamer 0.10, which was removed for being unmaintained. | 21:24 |
furrywolf | also, looks like newer gajim doesn't use it, so that might be the easiest option. | 21:25 |
frabbit | =( | 21:25 |
frabbit | what videocall or videoconference software to use under devuan? | 21:25 |
furrywolf | pip is python's own package management system | 21:25 |
furrywolf | dunno, I don't do video anything. lol | 21:25 |
frabbit | 21:24 < furrywolf> pip is python's own package management system - ok thx | 21:26 |
frabbit | 21:24 < furrywolf> dunno, I don't do video anything. lol - =( | 21:26 |
furrywolf | if you upgrade to beowulf, you'll get a newer gajim that doesn't use it. | 21:27 |
frabbit | anyon else? please... | 21:27 |
furrywolf | ... what other answer are you looking for? | 21:27 |
frabbit | furrywolf: as it seems gajim so not support video audio stuff anymore | 21:27 |
frabbit | in newer versions | 21:27 |
furrywolf | I've never even heard of gajim before. lol | 21:27 |
frabbit | someone at gajim support channel conference.gajim.org told me a few minutes ago: "audio/video support is not really maintained" | 21:28 |
frabbit | "its buggy and probably doesnt work" | 21:29 |
frabbit | but i really need that videocall or better videoconference stuff... anyone any suggesstions? | 21:30 |
frabbit | jitsi and movim are not available under devuan as it seems... | 21:30 |
hemimaniac | slack? | 21:34 |
zatumil | jami? | 21:35 |
frabbit | slack?: https://pkginfo.devuan.org/stage/ascii/ascii/slack_0.15.2-9.html - jami?: https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/d1pkgweb-query?search=jami&release=any | 21:37 |
hemimaniac | frabbit: https://slack.com/intl/en-ca/lp/three?utm_medium=ppc&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=d_ppc_google_ca_en_brand-hv-exp-email&utm_term=%2Bslack&campaign=88216180-CEBA-40C3-8F92-4AC1F052DAB4&gclsrc=ds&gclsrc=ds | 21:42 |
frabbit | hemimaniac: looks ugly... | 22:00 |
frabbit | what about pidgin? | 22:04 |
* enyc meows | 22:04 | |
* furrywolf pets the meowing | 22:05 | |
enyc | Hrrm, how goes beowulf? | 22:13 |
debdog | mostly harmless | 22:37 |
frabbit | ah! pidgin need farstream too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pidgin_(software)#Voice_and_video_chat | 22:39 |
frabbit | so theres no chance to make videocalls under devuan? man that cant be... | 22:41 |
debdog | some people mntioned https://jitsi.org/downloads/ lately. never tried it, never peaked behind their curtains, either | 22:44 |
golinux | debdog: That would require frabbit setting it up on his own server | 22:45 |
golinux | Their online version is at https://meet.jit.si/ | 22:46 |
frabbit | golinux: 1. exactly 2. yes ive tested this before but it doesnt reconize my microphone (tested usb and phone connector) | 22:49 |
Wonka | Jitsi Meeting works fine via Chromium | 22:49 |
frabbit | Wonka: i use firefox | 22:50 |
golinux | frabbit: jitsi is not easy to get working. | 22:51 |
Wonka | with Firefox, I had problems - and when I found the hints about going to about:config and setting media.peerconnection.enabled to true, I already had switched to using the standalone client jitsi-meet-x86_64.AppImage | 22:51 |
Wonka | haven't tried firefox since | 22:52 |
golinux | Yes, it works more reliably on chromium/ghrome | 22:53 |
golinux | chrome | 22:53 |
Wonka | I've just opened https://meet.jit.si/FreenodeDevuanMeeting | 22:53 |
Wonka | join me if you dare ;) | 22:53 |
golinux | Thanks for that hint. Need to bookmark. | 22:53 |
frabbit | golinux: yes i know but i wont use chrom*. found out another problem: jitsi uses WebRTC and that means no encryption.... | 22:53 |
furrywolf | Wonka: browser warning, error something then it's cut off at the bottom of the screen. heh. | 22:54 |
golinux | I get that in FF but them I'm still on jessie. | 22:55 |
furrywolf | apparantly it does not like my firefox either. | 22:55 |
furrywolf | also, I have neither a camera nor a microphone. | 22:55 |
frabbit | Wonka: i get failed to acces your microphone | 22:55 |
Wonka | frabbit: hm. cannot really help there. | 22:56 |
Wonka | frabbit: did you see me though? or maybe even hear me? | 22:56 |
furrywolf | last time I did a video chat, it was with cuseeme. which probably isn't still a thing. lol | 22:56 |
frabbit | i can see u but not hear, but thats becuase of my firefox (not using esr here) | 22:57 |
golinux | Make sure that access is enabled in setting | 22:57 |
Wonka | furrywolf: Google Hangouts, Skype, Slack are all too closed, likely? | 22:57 |
frabbit | hmm.. maybe sound is always a problem | 22:57 |
frabbit | output and input... | 22:58 |
furrywolf | Wonka: I know nothing about them.... frabbit is the one trying to find a solution. | 22:58 |
frabbit | golinux: it doesnt ask for access the microphone.. =( | 22:59 |
golinux | frabbit: many hardcore devuan users have had trouble getting sound to work | 22:59 |
frabbit | golinux: with firefox-esr? | 23:00 |
golinux | Go to ff settings to allow. There is also an icon in the address bar | 23:00 |
frabbit | i do not use the firefox from the repos | 23:00 |
golinux | This is really OT for this channel. Can we move to #debianfork? | 23:00 |
Wonka | sound in sufficiently new firefox needs pulseaudio | 23:00 |
specing | meep meep | 23:00 |
frabbit | with the repo versin i can get sound (installed that one on another computer and checked with youtube) | 23:00 |
golinux | Not on devuan | 23:00 |
frabbit | Wonka: hopefully not... =( | 23:01 |
golinux | still works with also (or so I've heard) | 23:01 |
furrywolf | sounds in -esr firefox should work fine without pulse | 23:01 |
frabbit | golinux: sure | 23:01 |
golinux | alsa | 23:01 |
frabbit | at #devuanfork now | 23:01 |
debdog | what does dmo stand for in a version numbering? like e.g. libx265-51:amd64 1.6-dmo1 | 23:20 |
debdog | I have a bunch of them but I have no clue where they might have come from | 23:20 |
fsmithred | deb-multimedia.org | 23:20 |
golinux | You are too fast | 23:20 |
fsmithred | you upgraded from an early version of jessie | 23:20 |
fsmithred | and didn't purge the dmo packages | 23:21 |
golinux | I still have some dmo stuff on my jessie | 23:21 |
debdog | yes, system is beowulf <-- ascii <-- devuan jessie | 23:21 |
debdog | but I cannot recall ever have multimedia had in my sources.list | 23:22 |
debdog | move that had where it bleongs :D | 23:22 |
fsmithred | nope. You didn't. | 23:23 |
debdog | ok, so I should be able to just purge them? | 23:23 |
fsmithred | yeah | 23:23 |
fsmithred | you might have to replace some, but that should have already happened | 23:23 |
debdog | rgr | 23:23 |
debdog | should™ | 23:23 |
fsmithred | yup | 23:23 |
debdog | what if should™ has not worked? can I force it? | 23:24 |
fsmithred | --simulate is your friend | 23:24 |
debdog | since aptitudes asks each time I usually do not simulate anything | 23:25 |
debdog | *aptidude | 23:25 |
debdog | ok, I'll dig in again… | 23:25 |
fsmithred | it's good in case you hit the wrong key when going through the options | 23:27 |
debdog | hehe, true | 23:27 |
debdog | I think the question is, why haven't they been updated yet? https://dpaste.org/Nhvr/raw | 23:42 |
debdog | just as an example | 23:42 |
fsmithred | because they added an epoch | 23:44 |
fsmithred | libmp3lame0: | 23:44 |
fsmithred | Installed: 3.100-2+b1 | 23:44 |
fsmithred | 1:3.99.5-dmo4 | 23:44 |
fsmithred | the 1: makes it a later version | 23:44 |
debdog | what does epoch mean in that context? | 23:44 |
debdog | oh | 23:45 |
debdog | dang | 23:45 |
fsmithred | either remove it and install from repo or force downgrade | 23:45 |
fsmithred | I think you can 'apt install package=version' | 23:45 |
debdog | oh my. it's quite a list and I would have to do that for each package manually | 23:46 |
fsmithred | there's an easier way, if I can find it | 23:47 |
debdog | that'd be awsome | 23:47 |
fsmithred | sorry, that was probably 4 years ago | 23:50 |
debdog | hehe, no worries, I'll find a way | 23:50 |
fsmithred | what I think I did was dpkg -l | grep dmo | 23:50 |
debdog | that I have. but my awk/sed-fu is not that good | 23:50 |
fsmithred | and then a little more filtering, and used that as input list for apt | 23:50 |
fsmithred | the first part will give you all the packages from dmo plus a few false positives | 23:51 |
debdog | right | 23:51 |
fsmithred | look at the list and pick a few key players | 23:51 |
fsmithred | a lot will go auto | 23:51 |
debdog | because of dependencies? | 23:52 |
fsmithred | yeah | 23:52 |
debdog | k | 23:52 |
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