freenode/#devuan/ Friday, 2020-04-10

agrisBeowulf is dogshit slow to do anything in a QEMU virtual machine02:51
agristaking several minutes to do anything02:51
fsmithredusing kvm?02:53
meep____Wait04:55
agrissorry04:56
agrisqemu emulated an amd cpu and translates not-implemented instruction sets by default04:56
gnu_srs1agris: Did you enable kvm?09:50
agrisyeah09:51
agrisworks 'ok' with kvm09:51
gnarfaceagris: worse than ascii?10:01
gnarfacehave you tried it on ascii as a comparison, is what i'm wondering?10:02
TwistedFateok so13:54
TwistedFateevery now and then, i have my system crash on me for some strange reason13:55
TwistedFateand i noticed it always happens when i play video games13:55
TwistedFatescreen just shuts itself off and i can still hear sounds from the game/system/browser13:55
TwistedFatebut there is no way to get the screen to pickup the PC's signal13:56
TwistedFateand it always ends up with me rebooting the machine13:56
debdogwhat if you clean the GPU's fan?13:56
TwistedFateit happened again a couple days ago, when i did alt+prnt screen+ REISUB13:56
TwistedFateit tried to reboot and i heard 3 beeps from the debug speaker13:56
masonTwistedFate: Proprietary nVidia or something else?15:22
masonTwistedFate: That's what I've got here and occasionally it'll hose X, and I'll have to kill my X session to unwedge it. All my stuff runs inside screen(1) so it's not as inconvenient as it might be. I launch openbox out of .xsession, so "pkill openbox" does the trick, either from a virtual terminal or ssh'd in from another system.15:23
masonI've got a new card on order that will hopefully address the issue.15:24
fsmithredmason, TwistedFate are you using Baytrail cpu?15:47
masonSkylake in my case.15:51
masonAnd it's proprietary nVidia, so all bets are off of course.15:51
buZzi havent had such issues16:02
buZznvidia's driver on a gtx1060 , xeon e3 v3 (haswell refresh) , >150 days uptime with many steam games np16:03
TwistedFatesorry guys, i was afk16:07
TwistedFatemason: it's amdgpu, rx 470 and ryzen 5 360016:08
TwistedFatewhat i did for now is, i remoted in with my 2nd machine over ssh if it happens again16:08
TwistedFateso i can check if it's a complete system lock and if i can see any logs16:09
TwistedFatenot sure what to look for though, maybe dmesg and xorg log?16:09
fsmithredon my baytrail, I had to add 'intel.pstate=1' to avoid lockups. I see some other options for skylake.16:23
masonfsmithred: In my case it's almost like a snow crash. Pretty rare, and restarting X appears to work.16:32
masonThe display starts firing random values at random pixels.16:32
ShorTieblaaa, E: Failed getting release file http://deb.debian.org/debian/dists/ascii/Release21:34
fsmithredShorTie, that's been happening a lot this week. Try again in a little while. It's probably just network congestion.22:04
yetiascii on a debian server?22:07
fsmithredgood catch.22:07
ShorTiethat is what i'm getting when trying to debootstrap22:14
meep____ยป <mason> TwistedFate: That's what I've got here and occasionally it'll hose X, and I'll have to kill my X session to unwedge it. All my stuff runs inside screen(1) so it's not as inconvenient as it might be. I launch openbox out of .xsession, so "pkill openbox" does the trick, either from a virtual terminal or ssh'd in from another system.22:18
meep____Same exact issue here. I sold my 1070 after nvidia refused to even resond to my bug reports22:18
meep____Skylake22:19
ShorTieoops, my bad, Thankz guys22:19
masonmeep____: I've got a GTX 1660 SUPER on the way. If it doesn't behave itself, I'll take that as my cue to move off of nVidia. My only issue with AMD is the notion of having to chase the latest kernel to get bug fixes and support. I much prefer hardware support independent of the mainline kernel. Same thing applies to ZFS vs BtrFS - with ZFS, I can get fixes that work with my kernel because it's not baked22:21
masoninto the kernel.22:21
BloatHunterHey, can devuan remove the libraw1394-11 as a dependency of gstreamer1.0-plugins-good and list as recommends?22:22
fsmithredBloatHunter, that's not one of our forked packages. You'd need to get the debian maintainer to do it or else do it for yourself.22:25
BloatHunterdebian told me to talk to gstreamer who told me it was debian's problem ;_;22:27
fsmithredthe dependencies are built into the package, so yeah, debian is responsible.22:27
fsmithredgood luck with that.22:28
BloatHunteryeh.... :\22:28
fsmithredyou could unpack the package, change the control file and repack it.22:28
BloatHunterdoes apt offer a way to perm change a single dep and have that hold through upgrades, maybe a reconfigure flag option?22:29
fsmithredI don't know22:29
fsmithredthere is a way to make a fake package to satisfy a dep. Install equivs22:29
fsmithredand read the man page. It's pretty simple.22:29
fsmithredhttps://medium.com/@kasunmaduraeng/how-to-modify-and-repack-deb-package-436f8351af4122:33
fsmithredhttps://unix.stackexchange.com/q/13818822:33
Bjornn-I'm looking for the equivalent of this package: linux-headers-generic23:31
Bjornn-anyone familiar? is this antiquated or morphed to another package?23:31
Bjornn-also, what lib do I need to install to have 'make' on my system23:32
fsmithredBjornn-, normally you would install build-essential and linux-headers-$(uname -r)23:47
Bjornn-thanks fsmithred23:58
Bjornn-I don't know how old this help page23:58

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