ujduwjduwjuwdjuw | Backend /usr/lib/cups/backend/ipp does not exist! | 05:01 |
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ujduwjduwjuwdjuw | cups suddenly wont print anylonger | 05:01 |
ujduwjduwjuwdjuw | “Backend /usr/lib/cups/backend/lpd does not exist!” | 05:03 |
ujduwjduwjuwdjuw | why is everything breaking? | 05:03 |
furrywolf | did you upgrade something recently? | 05:12 |
ujduwjduwjuwdjuw | furrywolf yes | 05:35 |
ujduwjduwjuwdjuw | lots of pkgs | 05:35 |
ujduwjduwjuwdjuw | I got it working again by reinstalling stuff after removing a apt source | 05:35 |
ujduwjduwjuwdjuw | /usr/lib/cups/backend/lpd was there though | 05:36 |
ujduwjduwjuwdjuw | so I don't know why the error came up | 05:36 |
ujduwjduwjuwdjuw | acc | 05:39 |
ujduwjduwjuwdjuw | it still doesn't actually print anything | 05:39 |
ujduwjduwjuwdjuw | wtf | 05:39 |
Xenguy | .oO( Happy Days, and it has nothing to do with millenials ... ) | 07:38 |
openbsdt1i123 | I created sda3 and sda4, on beowulf amd64, Y� change signature, but then mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda3 doesnot find sda3 and besides it needs a reboot. mkfs.ext is broken on amd64, it hangs, but on contrary on i386, it works all the time. | 08:47 |
openbsdt1i123 | So, usually I take my live openbsd cdrom to make a clean format, I trust more. | 08:48 |
premoboss | bloched at home by codiv-19. sub-teen ageer sons at home too. he always connected to youtube. teach him gently failed. now i must go to do a script to limit yoube daily time, i think to use cronto run some script that chech if timeslice is correct (ie: 10-12 and 15-17) if not, block the change /etc/hosts to redirect youtube to 127.0.0.1. i know how to do. what i miss, is to block the current youtube connection in case it is on | 10:46 |
premoboss | going. my idea is to sniff network connection (how to do?) look if it is to youtube and kill it. hany succestion, pleas? signed: near-to-be-desperate father :-) | 10:46 |
ShorTie | A good firewall has that built in | 10:59 |
premoboss | ShorTie, what can you suggest me? i can isntall on the "target" PC on onto a "homemade wifi router" i did, so no problems WHERE to install, just suggest me WHAT to install, thanks. | 11:05 |
meep_____ | premoboss: instead of using a firewall maybe you could try a more..person to person approach unrelated to computers | 11:06 |
meep_____ | He could always download tor | 11:07 |
meep_____ | Internet censorship is not very effective | 11:07 |
meep_____ | Even China with all it's manpower can't do it against their own urban youth | 11:07 |
premoboss | meep_____, 8 y/o kid. person-to-person approch quite failed. unfortunately he has the same bad character he has when i had his age... but when i 2as kid, there was not the temtation of youtube. actually i ssh into his pc and disable youtube by /etc/hosts. he has not root password :-) | 11:08 |
premoboss | i dont want to censorship, i want to limit PC time. he should came out in the garden to do some bicycle tour not only sit down in front of pc. | 11:09 |
meep_____ | Heh. When I was that old I would go on google and try every single link until I found a proxy that worked | 11:09 |
meep_____ | But anyways iptables supports time-based rules | 11:10 |
premoboss | meep_____, he still not so "nerd" :-) | 11:10 |
premoboss | meep_____, i was always so stipid at iptables. can you point me to some working examples? | 11:10 |
meep_____ | The man page | 11:11 |
meep_____ | Man iptables | 11:11 |
premoboss | ok | 11:11 |
premoboss | i ll do. | 11:11 |
meep_____ | I would press F8 on startup and the teachers would start panicking thinking i hacked the mainframe or something | 11:17 |
fsmithred | at 12:00 | 11:17 |
fsmithred | at> shutdown -h now | 11:17 |
fsmithred | ctrl-d | 11:17 |
fsmithred | or at> ifdown eth0 | 11:18 |
fsmithred | router might have settings to limit connection times | 11:19 |
ShorTie | SmoothWall does | 11:31 |
specing | premoboss: you need to get better at capturing attention than youtube is | 12:22 |
specing | Which you can't do, goddamn megacorps | 12:22 |
premoboss | specing, do you have kids? | 12:22 |
specing | sadly not | 12:24 |
premoboss | specing, well, it means you DOES NOT know what you are talking about. "kids administration" is a so difficul task. the "job of parents" must be learned on the field. im not complain you, i am just tell you what the reality is. | 12:25 |
specing | I liked the approach my parents took | 12:26 |
specing | There was a PC but no internet | 12:26 |
specing | Perhaps you can try that | 12:27 |
premoboss | the magic to be father disappear around 4Yo of son, till that age, it is "the joy to be father". after that, it is only "the load to be father". | 12:27 |
premoboss | om doing a scriprt hatlimit internet to 4 hours a day and turn of at 9 pm. | 12:27 |
specing | just turn it off entirely | 12:27 |
premoboss | yes. | 12:27 |
specing | Does he actually need it? | 12:28 |
specing | No, I mean entirely entirely | 12:28 |
specing | cancel your house's internet contract altogether | 12:28 |
cush | we want more than we need | 12:28 |
premoboss | specing, the funny joke. | 12:29 |
specing | premoboss:? | 12:29 |
premoboss | yes specing ? | 12:30 |
specing | Are you addicted to internet as well? | 12:30 |
premoboss | i am addicted, yes, but im am still able to manage myself. | 12:30 |
premoboss | cos im adult. kids are not mature enough to controll theyself. | 12:31 |
specing | hah, addicts managing themselves... | 12:31 |
cush | are you addicted to electricity specing ? | 12:31 |
premoboss | cush, BWHAWHWAHHWAHWAHAWHWA you are right! | 12:31 |
specing | premoboss: just turn of his internet entirely, then | 12:31 |
specing | specing | Does he actually need it? | 12:31 |
cush | specing is planting the wrong questions into your head, premoboss - don't listen to him | 12:32 |
specing | ooooh, I have an even better idea | 12:32 |
* specing so evil | 12:32 | |
specing | premoboss: limit internet to 50 KB/s :D | 12:32 |
premoboss | cush, yes, he is sarcastic/ironical, i got it, thanks | 12:32 |
cush | you know your relationship with son better than any of us. back to devuan. | 12:33 |
onefang | Yeah, this is the Devuan support channel, not a parenting support channel. Let's just discuss the technical problems, not the social ones. | 12:34 |
gnarface | yes, i agree. and that's frankly a much easier way out of this cleverly disguised attempt to force us to explain to you how to execute a MITM attack | 12:36 |
cush | anyone interested in devuan on mobile is welcome to check out maemo-leste. i got a droid 4 running devuan + leste now and it's great fun | 12:36 |
cush | having the same linux on phone and desktop. it's great | 12:37 |
premoboss | gnarface, hey man! no cracker here! i will block intenret access with cron and a script that terminate eth and wlan interface on scheduled time. before accuse someone, be sure you are right: take your suspects for yourself, thanks.. bye. | 12:39 |
onefang | That's the technical problem I meant. | 12:40 |
gnarface | premoboss: and if you would like to join #debianfork i'll happily discuss at length with you how shitty of a parent you are in your hypothetically invented cover story | 12:40 |
gnarface | premoboss: but i won't entertain the notion that i believe the lie. your ploy is transparent | 12:40 |
premoboss | gnarface, if this is an attempt to send you picture of me and so to convice you that ia ma right, you are wrong. i dont share my son picture with (maybe) perverted and pedofiliac people. | 12:42 |
premoboss | son* | 12:43 |
gnarface | i can't even parse that almost continuous gibberish but i'm pretty sure that if it were something true you wouldn't feel the need to bring it up right now | 12:45 |
gnarface | you're really sick in the head and you need to stop | 12:46 |
cush | gnarface: reviewing the chat, he just wants to crontab entry ifup and ifdown. where's the help-me-MITM-someone request? | 12:51 |
premoboss | gnarface, bla bla bla.. .ok, you discover me Sherlok! shame on me, oh God, fengive plaease! now i leave in you monolithic certainty, poor man. | 12:52 |
premoboss | cush, you are right. but i am doing by mysefl.. if youn need, i wll copy and paste yoo you if you need :-) | 12:53 |
cush | premoboss: maybe we can script something where after an interface logs > X megabytes of traffic it gets shutdown til next day? | 12:53 |
cush | how do i get a log of traffic on an interface anyway. | 12:54 |
cush | without logging the actual traffic - just the kB every minute or something | 12:54 |
premoboss | no, i do better: if time is not in 10-12 or 17-19 hours, i will ifdown all the interface.s the script will cronotab every 5 minutes. io think is a good point of start to be refined ongoing. si i have not to blow my mind with iptables.. irt was always ostic to me iptables, unfortunately. | 12:55 |
cush | yeah i learned a bit of iptables, then they changed it on me | 12:55 |
premoboss | i thin to add aslo tth check od day-of-week to be more contrlled (sleep late on friday and saturday) | 12:56 |
premoboss | cush, private message for you. | 13:58 |
Hurgotron | hmm... pulseaudio doesn't autostart for me. Does it for anyone? Where is it being started? | 16:16 |
fsmithred | Hurgotron, check /etc/pulse/client.conf.d/00-disable-autospawn.conf and comment out the autospawn line | 16:18 |
fsmithred | did you do a fresh install or did you upgrade from ascii? | 16:19 |
Hurgotron | Fresh install. Works fine on ascii, issues on beowulf | 16:20 |
Hurgotron | I don't get the autostart mechanism on ascii either. It comes back after killall pulseaudio, owned by pid1, no log entries. Would appreciate a hint | 16:22 |
fsmithred | that's the only hint I have, and it's specific to beowulf | 16:24 |
fsmithred | not sure what needs to be restarted after the edit. Maybe just PA, maybe desktop, maybe reboot. | 16:26 |
Hurgotron | reboot worked, thanks a lot. Main issue is solved. | 16:28 |
Hurgotron | Still, I'd like to know which part of the system does the restarting... | 16:29 |
fsmithred | anything in /etc/init.d for it? | 16:30 |
Hurgotron | nothing shows up when I grep for 'pulse' | 16:30 |
Hurgotron | I'll find out. | 16:31 |
fsmithred | I'm booting a VM that has it. | 16:31 |
fsmithred | will look around | 16:31 |
fsmithred | maybe /lib/udev/rules.d/90-pulseaudio.rules | 16:34 |
fsmithred | ok, probably /etc/init.d/pulseaudio-enable-autospawn | 16:36 |
furrywolf | apt-get purge pulseaudio. :) | 16:37 |
fsmithred | that would work fine for me | 16:37 |
fsmithred | that last file doesn't actually exist | 16:38 |
fsmithred | apt-file must be checking some version other than beowulf | 16:38 |
fsmithred | Hurgotron, it's in desktop settings - Application Autostart | 16:39 |
fsmithred | and there's /etc/xdg/autostart/pulseaudio.desktop | 16:40 |
Hurgotron | no, that starts start-pulseaudio-x11 which needs the daemon already running. | 16:41 |
Hurgotron | I'm currently suspecting rtkit to do the daemon starting, but I don't really understand the dbus / freedesktop stuff | 16:43 |
fsmithred | I don't understand any of it, but /etc/pulse/system.pa looks like it might be relevant. | 16:50 |
fsmithred | Hurgotron, are you expecing PA to start again if you kill it? It's not doing that here - it just stays dead. | 16:54 |
fsmithred | But if I try to play an audio file, it plays and PA is running again. | 16:56 |
Hurgotron | fsmithred: Well, it did restart and I didn't know why (after commenting the autospawn line). But I found out that if you have the pulseaudio panel plugin runnimg, it does the restarting. | 17:03 |
Hurgotron | That is slightly confusing - didn't expect it to do that. | 17:04 |
Hurgotron | But thanks a lot, I'm all set now. | 17:04 |
fsmithred | is that pasystray? | 17:05 |
fsmithred | Hurgotron, where did you get the panel plugin? Did you just pavucontrol to the panel? | 17:06 |
fsmithred | nm, I see it in the panel list of things to add | 17:07 |
ux_man | Hi all! I did a install of the beowulf_x86_64 beta installer, installed only the base system without desktops, then seperatly installed xorg, xdm, cwm & virt-manager... until now a flawless expierience... | 20:53 |
cush | is fun yes ux_man | 20:58 |
sacioz | My sincere thanks to all of you for your time in keeping this system up and running.I got an old brother printer alive and cracking again. | 22:46 |
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