| frabbit | hi people. what ports are open by default? | 00:40 |
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| ullet | a 'your mom' joke would be inappropriate i suppose | 00:41 |
| frabbit | ullet: your dad jokes are welcome 0P | 00:41 |
| frabbit | =P | 00:41 |
| ullet | :) sorry. I don't know the answer frabbit - i'm not sure any firewal comes configured with devuan | 00:42 |
| ullet | i think they're all 'open' just not listened-to | 00:42 |
| frabbit | iv runned a portscan on my publich ip adress and get 3 open ports there | 00:42 |
| frabbit | *public | 00:42 |
| ullet | sshd might be started by default. | 00:43 |
| frabbit | and it says Not shown: 997 closed ports | 00:43 |
| ullet | but your public ip is normally served by a router | 00:43 |
| frabbit | the three are ftp, somain and sip | 00:44 |
| frabbit | *domain | 00:44 |
| some_alex | hi, I'm going to install X now. I see 2 packages: xserver-xorg and xorg. Which one should I install? | 01:50 |
| ullet | xorg will pull in xserver-xorg | 02:11 |
| some_alex | ullet: which package is used for what exactly? | 02:16 |
| ullet | i dunno | 02:17 |
| GenuineGNULinux | Your GNU/Linux copy is not activated. You may be a victim of software counterfeiting. Do you want to enter product key now? | 20:24 |
| GenuineGNULinux | If you don't have a product key, contact me to purchase a license. | 20:24 |
| GenuineGNULinux | One license for one computer. How much licenses do you want to purchase? | 20:24 |
| mason | How much licenses is sallow. | 20:25 |
| GenuineGNULinux | $99 for single computer | 20:26 |
| golinux | WTF! | 20:26 |
| golinux | LOLOL! | 20:26 |
| GenuineGNULinux | $49 for each computer if purchasing for 25 or more machines | 20:26 |
| golinux | Please take it to #debianfork | 20:26 |
| golinux | Or better yet . . . just go away | 20:27 |
| ActivateYourLinu | Purchase a license now! $89 for single computer if you purchase it before I'm banned! | 20:37 |
| golinux | K-Line rocks! | 20:41 |
| MinceR | https://www.marineinsight.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/K_Line-containers-1280x720.jpg | 20:45 |
| telst4r | Steve Ballmer selling GNU/Linux for Windows, eh? | 21:15 |
| ullet | the less said about trolls, the better | 21:20 |
| golinux | And all OT for this channel | 21:22 |
| Cynicus | Anyone have any luck installing drivers for an older Nvidia card? | 21:29 |
| Cynicus | Quadro FX 1800 | 21:30 |
| gnarface | Cynicus: try the legacy drivers if the normal ones don't support it anymore (apt-cache search ^nvidia-legacy) | 21:34 |
| Cynicus | Checking | 21:35 |
| gnarface | if it's too old for those too, you might be stuck with nouveau | 21:35 |
| Cynicus | It says to use the nvidia-legacy-340xx drivers. | 21:36 |
| gnarface | those are the ones i'm talking about | 21:37 |
| gnarface | they should be in the repo if you included non-free in your sources | 21:37 |
| Cynicus | Let me check and see... | 21:38 |
| Cynicus | Hmmmm....modprobe: FATAL: Module nvidia-legacy-340xx not found in directory /lib/modules/4.9.0-11-amd64 | 21:38 |
| Cynicus | But apt says it's installed. | 21:39 |
| gnarface | hmm | 21:39 |
| Cynicus | nvidia-legacy-340xx-driver is already the newest version (340.108-3~deb9u1). | 21:39 |
| gnarface | if you were missing the linux-headers package for your kernel at the time it was installed, dkms would have failed which might have caused this type of error | 21:40 |
| Cynicus | Ah. So just install the linux-headers? | 21:40 |
| gnarface | probably, then re-install the nvidia-legacy driver or just re-run the dkms command (i'm not sure the exact dkms command though) | 21:40 |
| Cynicus | Let me check and see... | 21:41 |
| gnarface | it would most likely be linux-headers-i386 or linux-headers-amd64, just make sure you pick the right one for your install | 21:41 |
| gnarface | (the one that matches the linux-image-* package) | 21:41 |
| gnarface | you might see a bunch of different versions but the ones just named linux-headers-i386, linux-headers-amd64, linux-image-amd64, and linux-image-i386, will all track the current version to keep you updated | 21:42 |
| Cynicus | What about the "all" selection? | 21:42 |
| gnarface | ignore the "-all" ones, they will be included as necessary | 21:43 |
| Cynicus | Alright. | 21:43 |
| Cynicus | Installing. | 21:43 |
| gnarface | the real important thing is that you just only use the "-i386" or "-amd64" one as appropriate for your existing install and kernel (you can check with "uname -a") | 21:44 |
| Cynicus | I would think that an older Nvidia card(not too old though) would have had enough time to become somewhat stable. | 21:44 |
| gnarface | i'm not familiar with that card number so i don't know for sure it needs the legacy driver | 21:44 |
| gnarface | i'm not sure the legacy driver will even work | 21:44 |
| Cynicus | Yeah...it needs the legacy driver. | 21:45 |
| Cynicus | The driver is in the repo. | 21:45 |
| Cynicus | No errors doing modprobe this time around. | 21:46 |
| Cynicus | modprobe nvidia | 21:46 |
| Cynicus | Should I restart the Xserver, or reboot the computer? | 21:47 |
| gnarface | safer to reboot the whole thing, though that was only actually historically a physical requirement for some of their hardware, i haven't memorized which ones | 21:47 |
| gnarface | actually there is a non-zero chance with nvidia hardware you might in some cases need to do a full power down and cold boot | 21:48 |
| gnarface | (though I think that ended after the AGP era, i'm not 100% sure) | 21:48 |
| Cynicus | Alright then. Be back in a few minutes. Wish me luck. | 21:49 |
| gnarface | woops, i probably should have mentioned to blacklist nouveau... | 21:53 |
| Cynicus | Hmmmm...would the nvidia driver conflict with the older embedded MB video driver? | 22:39 |
| Cynicus | drm 360448 6 mgag200,nvidia,ttm,drm_kms_helper | 22:39 |
| gnarface | Cynicus: glad you made it back. yes, sorry, i forgot to mention you probably need to blacklist the nouveau driver before you reboot | 22:40 |
| Cynicus | It's blacklisted. | 22:40 |
| Cynicus | Wondering if the mgag200 driver is conflicting. | 22:41 |
| gnarface | Cynicus: mgag200 is for matrox cards. you shouldn't be seeing that for a nvidia card. and i don't think it will conflict with nvidia, or it shouldn't, anyway. | 22:41 |
| Cynicus | Okay. | 22:41 |
| Cynicus | It's built into the Motherboard. | 22:41 |
| gnarface | you should actually be able to use them both at once, but if you're not using the onboard one it is probably better to disable it in the BIOS to spare the resources | 22:42 |
| Cynicus | Gotcha. | 22:42 |
| Cynicus | Hmmmm...well, the kernel module loads | 22:42 |
| Cynicus | nvidia-smi works. | 22:43 |
| gnarface | Xorg ships without a config these days, and relies on auto-detect by default, which, aside from being a bit flaky, might default to the matrox card since it's first on the PCI bus | 22:44 |
| Cynicus | [ 166.719663] [drm] Initialized nvidia-drm 0.0.0 20150116 for 0000:02:00.0 on minor 1 | 22:44 |
| Cynicus | Ah. So I have to write my own config. | 22:44 |
| gnarface | you no longer need the whole thing, but you might need enough of it to tell it to use the nvidia card instead if you leave the matrox one enabled | 22:45 |
| Cynicus | I think I'll keep the matrox one enabled as a fallback until I'm sure I have the nvidia driver working right. | 22:45 |
| gnarface | it should be able to use both, but since they're not the same brand, then without xinerama, one will be the "main" one, and usually that's just whichever one it finds first | 22:46 |
| gnarface | (which is usually the onboard one because usuallly they put that one first on the bus) | 22:46 |
| gnarface | with proper configuration you should be able to use them both as separate heads, or as one head with xinerama and some software overhead | 22:47 |
| Cynicus | Gotcha. So I have to manually tell it to try the nvidia card first...then use the onboard card. | 22:47 |
| gnarface | yea | 22:47 |
| gnarface | should be doable with just a partial xorg.conf, but you can still use a whole one if you want to control everything | 22:48 |
| Cynicus | Okay. Gonna be lurking while I configure Xorg. | 22:50 |
| gnarface | that matrox driver is very good quality and it's hardware that's dead like latin, so there's every possibility it's better supported now than the nvidia one. ymmv on which one is actually better to use based on that. | 22:50 |
| Cynicus | Well...the resolution sucks. | 22:51 |
| Cynicus | Be back in a little bit... | 22:51 |
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