trogplar | my horse for a dtb and uboot and kernel | 03:47 |
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Xenguy | My kingdom for a horse! | 05:01 |
phogg | Xenguy: apt-get install seahorse # best I can do on short notice | 05:11 |
Xenguy | Much better than cowsay phogg , thank you again! | 05:12 |
phogg | when do I get my kingdom? | 05:13 |
Xenguy | The meek shall inherit the earth | 05:13 |
Xenguy | That's when | 05:13 |
Xenguy | Or, that's what they want you to believe | 05:14 |
Xenguy | Stay meek, oh yeah | 05:14 |
phogg | perfect, I'm hella meek | 05:14 |
Xenguy | Meek is where the revolution is not | 05:14 |
Xenguy | But it does help in getting along with other people, no doubt | 05:15 |
Xenguy | But we usually go to #debianfork to chat about off-topic stuff, so we should probably | 05:15 |
trogplar | well i did ubuntu-devuan 'the hard way' but am scared to reboot now | 05:16 |
Xenguy | Scared of what? | 05:17 |
trogplar | but apt update && apt upgrade seems to works | 05:17 |
Xenguy | That's what Debian/Devuan is famous for IMHO, seamless online upgrades... | 05:17 |
Xenguy | I tried out Ubu way back when, and it failed, so I went back to Debian for that hotness | 05:18 |
Xenguy | Of course now I'm here, but same difference | 05:18 |
Xenguy | Almost | 05:18 |
phogg | trogplar: if you didn't screw up the bootloader it should be recoverable in any case. Got a rescue disc/flash drive just in case? | 05:22 |
trogplar | yes | 05:22 |
trogplar | but i really want new kernel so i'll have to lern to build with vendor patches | 05:22 |
trogplar | and i think that means i need to rebuild uboot to use a new kernel or can i use vandor-s supplied uboot | 05:23 |
trogplar | and just change the settings to point to the new kernel? | 05:23 |
trogplar | btw greetings fellow brother-in-'og' | 05:24 |
systemdlete | Interesting. I lost sound in my ascii VM today. I tried all sorts of things to bring it back. I looked at the system logs, the vbox log, double-checked the alsamixer controls. I googled for this and found a ticket which suggested pretty much what I've discovered about this bug: You have to restart the vm. | 05:25 |
systemdlete | OK, fine. SO I try to logout and I'm told input/output error. | 05:25 |
systemdlete | ??? The kern.log shows that there are errors on sata drives... but there might be a problem with that because... uhm. VMs don't have real hardware. So I checked the host kern.log; no errors, no mention of an issue. | 05:26 |
systemdlete | Any ideas before I go hollar on the vbox channel? | 05:26 |
systemdlete | I can't even shut the system down from root because it tells me... uh... input/output error | 05:27 |
systemdlete | My VM is having a very bad day. | 05:27 |
trogplar | maybe the vm image is on a seagate sata drive connected over usb | 05:27 |
systemdlete | maybe. But it isnt. I am using vdi drives | 05:28 |
systemdlete | and even if it were, I'd expect to see errors somewhere on the host, right? | 05:28 |
trogplar | how dare you refute my conjecture with evidence | 05:28 |
systemdlete | (although, usb maybe not) | 05:28 |
trogplar | yes | 05:28 |
systemdlete | so sorry | 05:28 |
systemdlete | didn't mean to offend | 05:28 |
systemdlete | I'm just plain frustrated... and getting pissed. I thought this bug had been fixed long ago. I haven't run into this in a long time | 05:29 |
trogplar | i can't imagine real drive errors being revealed in the vm. it has to be a bug with vbox, it seems | 05:29 |
systemdlete | I tend to think so also. | 05:29 |
systemdlete | I did do an update/upgrade earlier today... | 05:30 |
systemdlete | I don't remember which packages I updated though | 05:30 |
systemdlete | I suppose I could look at the history.log | 05:30 |
trogplar | i'd sell my foot for a good memory | 05:30 |
systemdlete | (me too, trogplar, me too) | 05:30 |
onefang | Might be a corrupted VM disk image? | 05:34 |
n0a110w | i just stumbled upon this, gopher://46.105.191.76 | 08:21 |
n0a110w | is that an official devuan gopher? | 08:22 |
n0a110w | s/is/was/ | 08:23 |
gnarface | afaik there was never an official devuan gopher, there was just the one someone put up as an april fool's joke | 08:27 |
n0a110w | i suppose that could still be it, then | 08:29 |
gnarface | i don't know if that is it or not | 08:29 |
n0a110w | it seems to resolve to web.devuan.org | 08:29 |
n0a110w | nevermind that | 08:31 |
frabbit | is there a way to use libressl instead of openssl in devuan? | 09:16 |
Hum | I installed docker-ce and cannot remove it now. dpkg -r recommends to reinstall it first to remove it. Aptitude shows Cr as package mode. Do you have hints, how to remove it without reinstalling | 10:36 |
dinoRAWR | i feel bad i have used debian so many years and don't know the answer | 10:44 |
Hurgotron | man dpkg, --force-remove-reinstreq looks promising | 10:45 |
Hum | Hurgotron: Thx, dpkg doesn't work well there. I still have docker-ce | 10:47 |
Hum | Ahh, I installed the /etc/init.d/docker script manually and now I moved it away and docker-ce was removed | 10:49 |
dinoRAWR | i'm a fan of dpkg -P --force-all but i like breaking stuff | 10:49 |
Hum | dinoRAWR: debian SID ?! ;) | 10:49 |
dinoRAWR | was always a cid kid | 10:50 |
dinoRAWR | sid | 10:50 |
Hum | :D | 10:52 |
tomtastic | Is ceres chimaera currently? | 11:33 |
dinoRAWR | what does that mean tomtastic ? | 11:34 |
tomtastic | Devuan ceres is like sid right (it always points to unstable) ? | 11:35 |
dinoRAWR | that's what i thought | 11:35 |
xinomilo | yes, ceres = sid | 11:35 |
tomtastic | But Chimaera is the next release after Beowulf | 11:35 |
tomtastic | So, does Ceres point to the same packages as Chimaera currently ? | 11:36 |
dinoRAWR | there is no chimaera currently so | 11:36 |
onefang | Chimaera does exist, though I have no idea if it's in a usable shape. | 11:38 |
dinoRAWR | do i understand right, that when chimera is released, it will have the current packages in sid/ceres? | 11:39 |
dinoRAWR | maybe with a bit of lag | 11:40 |
tomtastic | "Get:11 https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged chimaera/main amd64 Packages [7,830 kB]" <-- There's certainly something there.... | 11:40 |
tomtastic | Was just curious, I'll go back to bleeding edge installs from ceres | 11:46 |
tomtastic | I really wish Debian would hurry up and get the nodejs package version bumped up to v12 | 11:47 |
fsmithred | chimaera=bullseye | 12:21 |
palinuro | hello everyone | 13:22 |
palinuro | i'm trying to develop an automatic mirror redirector for devuan based on the parrot os infrastructure (mirrorbits+redis+nginx) and i would like to have more detals about the devuan mirror structure and the whole amprolla setup | 13:24 |
onefang | What do you need to know about the mirrors? I can't help much with Amprolla though. | 13:26 |
palinuro | onefang how do you differentiate the deb repository from the iso archive? does a single repository with both the devuan packages and the merged packages exist in the same pool folder or at least in the same folder tree? and where do i get a full mirrors list of both iso and packages? | 13:43 |
onefang | If a mirror has both packages and ISOs then it will typically have a "devuan" folder for packages, and a "devuan-cd" folder for the ISOs. | 13:46 |
dinoRAWR | i don't understand any of these issues. thank you for devuan. works for me ™! | 13:46 |
onefang | Package mirrors have the option of redirecting to Debian package mirrors, redirecting to their own package mirror, or hosting the lot. They redirect on paths with DEBIAN or DEBIAN-SECURITY in them. | 13:48 |
onefang | https://devuan.org/get-devuan is the list of ISO mirrors, and https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/mirror_list.txt is the list of package mirrors. The later is machine readable, I use that for apt-panopticon. | 13:49 |
onefang | https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan_mirror_walkthrough.txt might be useful to you. | 13:50 |
palinuro | okok thank you. i have to make 3 different redirection engines for each file tree (iso, devuan debs, debian debs), but if it works it would be very interesting | 15:16 |
palinuro | onefang, when i try to access a debian package from the devuan merged repository, how is the debian mirror selected? | 15:20 |
onefang | deb.devuan.org is a round robin DNS if you are using that. The specific redirection is up to the mirror, but they should follow the devuan_mirror_walkthrough.txt instructions. | 15:24 |
onefang | So /merged/pool/DEBIAN/ -> http://deb.debian.org/debian/pool/ and /merged/pool/DEBIAN-SECURITY/ -> http://deb.debian.org/debian-security/pool/ | 15:25 |
onefang | But those that have their own Debian mirror as well as the Devuan mirror, would do similar redirects to that Debian mirror. | 15:25 |
onefang | After that it's up to the Debian mirror system to direct things. | 15:26 |
palinuro | okok got it | 15:38 |
palinuro | so i can do 2 mirrorbits instances instead of 3, way simpler :) | 15:38 |
Xelraa | is there a pxe installer for devuan? | 16:05 |
Xelraa | when will beuwulf go stable? | 16:05 |
Xelraa | ascii feels too old already | 16:06 |
Hum | after reboot gajim wants to unlock the keyring. I don't use the keyring. If I click cancel gajim crashes. | 16:08 |
fsmithred | Xelraa, poke around under installer-<ARCH> for pxe boot files | 16:10 |
fsmithred | right now, I think just the live isos are holding up beowulf's release | 16:11 |
Hum | solved by: https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/GNOME_Schl%C3%BCsselbund/#Keyring-Daemon-deaktivieren | 16:13 |
xinomilo | Hum, in MATE DE installing libpam-gnome-keyring, solves it | 16:15 |
Hum | xinomilo: strange, I deactivate it and it works and you install a package :/ | 16:18 |
xinomilo | deactivate might be better, don't know if anything else requires gnome-keyring | 16:22 |
palinuro | done :) https://git.devuan.org/palinuro/mirror-director | 16:53 |
palinuro | now testing | 16:53 |
onefang | palinuro: I'm off to bed. Lemme know how it goes. | 17:04 |
palinuro | http://devuan.parrot.sh | 18:00 |
palinuro | https cert and cdn coming soon | 18:00 |
palinuro | it's syncing | 18:00 |
crashoverride | is parrot moving away from debian in order to use devuan as a base? | 18:01 |
crashoverride | that would be outstanding news. | 18:01 |
crashoverride | if that happens, I'd be using parrot as my base OS for anything "linux". | 18:03 |
targz | There was always the possibility of his migration to Devuan, did the day come? | 18:08 |
crashoverride | palinuro: also, since you're here: the anonsurf script connects to start.parrotsec.org/ip/ to get the public IP of the running instance, but that gets redirected to parrotsec.org/ip/ and returns 404. | 18:09 |
crashoverride | not that it's a big deal beacuse that's not the only service returning people's public IP addresses, but it is a bit sad :P | 18:09 |
palinuro | we are still working on the migration to devuan that would eventually involve our upcoming LTS branch, while the rolling branch will stay on debian | 18:52 |
palinuro | p.s. i will fix the ip retrieval soon. anonsurf is up to receive a big upgrade | 18:53 |
targz | palinuro: excellent, thanks | 18:59 |
openbsdtai123 | hi, how to run XMMS on devuan ascii ? | 19:19 |
debdog | mayhap xmms2-launcher | 19:21 |
debdog | or xmms2d | 19:22 |
openbsdtai123 | is not xmms to be deleted ? | 19:22 |
debdog | https://packages.debian.org/stretch/amd64/xmms2-core/filelist | 19:22 |
openbsdtai123 | outdate | 19:22 |
openbsdtai123 | xmms is very old | 19:22 |
crashoverride | palinuro: also, currently, if you're up to date with updates, golismero won't install. | 19:23 |
crashoverride | wrong version of python I believe. | 19:23 |
crashoverride | maybe #devuan is the wrong place to report this, but since you're here... | 19:23 |
palinuro | crashoverride, isn't golismero based on python2? because it is deprecated and we are slowly deleting all the python2 packages | 19:48 |
some_alex | onefang: You said I could talk about setting up a mirror at #devuan-dev, but I'm not permitted to send messages there for some reason. Can unregistered nickname be the problem? | 19:59 |
openbsdtai123 | Is there a apt-src to compile all like deboostrap using CVS ? | 20:43 |
openbsdtai123 | base system + kernel linux (from cvs and make): | 20:44 |
crashoverride | yeah I think it is | 21:10 |
crashoverride | palinuro: ^ | 21:10 |
crashoverride | I'll check if I can rewrite it or port it | 21:11 |
Cynicus | Anyone here manage to get eosio installed on Devuan? | 22:58 |
Cynicus | Is it safe to install ubuntu packages on a Devuan system? | 23:13 |
golinux | No! | 23:21 |
Cynicus | Gotcha. | 23:31 |
Cynicus | Have to do it piecemeal. | 23:32 |
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