| nemo | sooo I'd like to have a newer wine | 00:46 |
|---|---|---|
| nemo | I'm thinking I should just add it from https://wiki.winehq.org/Debian | 00:47 |
| nemo | seems probably fairly safe | 00:47 |
| nemo | is Debian 9 or Debian 10 closest to beowulf these days? | 00:47 |
| nemo | and... is this a bad idea? | 00:47 |
| nemo | ah. buster | 00:48 |
| nemo | 10.4 to be exact | 00:49 |
| nemo | welp. we'll see what happens | 00:49 |
| * enyc meows! | 04:48 | |
| aitor | hi | 13:39 |
| aitor | fsmithred: *what's the equivalent of 'init 1' command for runit?* | 13:39 |
| Guest67410 | runit only has runit-init 0 and runit-init 6 (shutdown) | 13:39 |
| Guest67410 | if you want to start in single user mode probably you'll need to add a grub entry for that, reading it from /etc/runit/2 (or 1): | 13:41 |
| Guest67410 | if grep -q -w -i 'single' /proc/cmdline | 13:41 |
| Guest67410 | adding something like this afterwards: | 13:42 |
| Guest67410 | then | 13:42 |
| Guest67410 | chpst -P /sbin/sulogin -p /dev/tty1 | 13:42 |
| Guest67410 | fi | 13:42 |
| Guest67410 | mmm... 07:49 in boston | 13:43 |
| fsmithred | hi | 13:44 |
| Guest67410 | hi | 13:44 |
| fsmithred | add that where? | 13:44 |
| fsmithred | what I really wanted to do was drop to runlevel 1 just to restart everything wihtout rebooting | 13:45 |
| Guest67410 | better said: read it from /proc/cmdline, and adding it to /etc/runit/2 | 13:45 |
| fsmithred | ah, ok | 13:45 |
| fsmithred | what I was actually trying to accomplish was console autologin in a live session | 13:46 |
| Guest67410 | then, you might write your own script for that, i guess | 13:46 |
| fsmithred | and I did figure that out | 13:46 |
| fsmithred | getty -a user | 13:46 |
| Guest67410 | fsmithred: time to eat, be back later | 13:48 |
| Guest67410 | have a nice day | 13:49 |
| fsmithred | you too, thanks | 13:49 |
| zatumil | w | 16:58 |
| MinceR | asd | 17:00 |
| tuxd3v | MinceR, xyzw | 18:41 |
| MinceR | weird layout :> | 18:41 |
| tuxd3v | its the best layout a papyrus one =D | 18:42 |
| systemdlete | pastebinit only returns server but not the page of the pasted item | 19:00 |
| systemdlete | Ah, exceeds max len | 19:01 |
| systemdlete | Would be nice to see a message from command line tool... | 19:02 |
| brocashelm | how do i increase speed of pointer in devuan? xinput is not making a difference. something about udev? | 20:03 |
| fsmithred | brocashelm, check the forum. Someone posted something about messing with evdev and/or libinput config files | 20:08 |
| emaxzzz | Hi | 20:36 |
| brocashelm | fsmithred: i think i got it now. looks like it was xinput with libinput (i restarted xorg to confirm) | 20:48 |
| Devu33 | hello! | 21:57 |
| Devu33 | after I install beowulf and I wish to use the cdrom "sr0" as my apt source, apt-get asks me to use apt-cdrom add | 22:04 |
| Devu33 | after I do apt-cdrom add, apt-get update complains about the Release file not being signed | 22:04 |
| fsmithred | isn't there a line for cdrom in /etc/apt/sources.list? | 22:04 |
| Devu33 | yes sir! | 22:05 |
| fsmithred | which iso? | 22:06 |
| Devu33 | with the cdrom: mode I get "does not have a release file" | 22:06 |
| Devu33 | 20200526 | 22:06 |
| fsmithred | desktop? server? arch? | 22:06 |
| Devu33 | desktop! | 22:07 |
| Devu33 | so when I remove the cdrom: entry and mount the cdrom and use file: instead I get a different message | 22:08 |
| fsmithred | so that would be a beta or RC? | 22:08 |
| Devu33 | it finds the Release, but then it complains is not signed | 22:08 |
| fsmithred | the final isos have June 1 date | 22:08 |
| Devu33 | hmm :/ | 22:08 |
| Devu33 | I thought 3.0 was final | 22:09 |
| fsmithred | yeah, it is | 22:09 |
| Devu33 | how can I check on the cdrom fs? | 22:09 |
| fsmithred | sha256sum <file> | 22:09 |
| fsmithred | tell me the full name of the iso | 22:09 |
| Devu33 | [...]42d7 | 22:11 |
| Devu33 | devuan_beowulf_3.0.0_amd64-netinstall.iso | 22:12 |
| Devu33 | sorry | 22:12 |
| Devu33 | I renamed the file, this not it | 22:12 |
| fsmithred | how big is the file? | 22:13 |
| Devu33 | 3.6GB | 22:15 |
| fsmithred | yeah, that's the desktop iso | 22:15 |
| Devu33 | sha256 ends with 42d7 | 22:15 |
| Devu33 | I manually checked and indeed the Release does not have a sig | 22:15 |
| Devu33 | but during the debian installer process it does not complain about that at all | 22:16 |
| Devu33 | devuan sorry | 22:16 |
| Devu33 | E: The repository "file:/media/cdrom beowulf Release" is not signed. | 22:18 |
| fsmithred | did you use a network mirror to install? | 22:19 |
| Devu33 | N: Update from such repository cannot be done securely, and is therefore is disabled by default | 22:19 |
| Devu33 | did not, im airgapped on that system | 22:19 |
| fsmithred | so apt was ok with it during install but not after? | 22:20 |
| fsmithred | that's weird. | 22:20 |
| fsmithred | for a no-mirror install, cdrom line should be active in sources.list, and it should not have asked you to run apt-cdrom | 22:20 |
| fsmithred | it should just ask you to insert the disk | 22:20 |
| Devu33 | if i do [allow_insecure=yes] then it tells me is dangerous | 22:21 |
| Devu33 | and then it prints yet another message saying: "Invalid 'Date' entry on release file /var/lib/apt/lists/_media_cdrom_dists_beowulf_Release" | 22:23 |
| Devu33 | fsmithred: Is apt-get expectation that the Release file is accompanied by a Release.sig? | 22:25 |
| fsmithred | I don't think so | 22:25 |
| fsmithred | I'm looking at a debian iso now, and I don't see that | 22:25 |
| Devu33 | apt 1.8.2.1 (amd64) | 22:26 |
| fsmithred | same here | 22:27 |
| fsmithred | running | 22:27 |
| Devu33 | if you are on a vm and you can attach the iso as a cdrom or otherwise mount the cdrom as a loop and try both sources with apt-get update | 22:28 |
| Devu33 | I might be missing something, or might have broken something | 22:29 |
| fsmithred | I'm looking for a vm to recycle | 22:29 |
| fsmithred | installing... | 22:34 |
| Devu33 | is there a way to clean apt index altogether and start fresh | 22:34 |
| Devu33 | apt-get clean only seems to clear .deb | 22:34 |
| fsmithred | yeah, there are other files that can be deleted | 22:35 |
| Devu33 | if I comment out all repositories and leave only the original cdrom: source... it tells me I am being sneaky and trying to add a cdrom using apt-get which is not the way ! | 22:35 |
| Devu33 | use apt-cdrom, which simply adds a duplicate line | 22:35 |
| fsmithred | https://git.devuan.org/devuan/refractasnapshot-base/src/branch/master/snapshot_exclude.list | 22:37 |
| fsmithred | go down to around line 75 for apt files that you can delete. They will regenerate with 'apt update' or similar | 22:37 |
| Devu33 | omg, this is so cool | 22:38 |
| fsmithred | ? | 22:38 |
| Devu33 | I was looking for this, I have to try it | 22:38 |
| fsmithred | try what? | 22:39 |
| Devu33 | refracta-snapshot | 22:39 |
| Devu33 | I did not know of its existence | 22:39 |
| fsmithred | yes, it is very cool. (but I'm biased) | 22:39 |
| Devu33 | so, from 75 to 81 | 22:41 |
| Devu33 | should I stop using apt-get and use apt instead? | 22:41 |
| brocashelm | apt is fine for basic usage | 22:42 |
| Devu33 | does it conflict or complements, neutral upon 'update' with apt-get? | 22:44 |
| fsmithred | I don't know | 22:45 |
| fsmithred | apt is recomended now | 22:45 |
| fsmithred | apt is NOT recommended for use in scripts, because they haven't really decided what it's going to do (i.e. it'll change) | 22:45 |
| tom_ | Are there any IPv6 repo mirrors? | 22:46 |
| fsmithred | I'm gradually switching over to using apt, and from what I can see, it's like apt-get | 22:46 |
| brocashelm | lol, i'm used to apt-get -f install for broken packages, even though apt check is the same thing | 22:46 |
| tom_ | Some of my servers are not provisioned with legacy IPv4 addresses, only IPv6 | 22:46 |
| tom_ | W: Failed to fetch http://deb.devuan.org/merged/dists/beowulf/InRelease Temporary failure resolving 'deb.devuan.org' | 22:47 |
| Devu33 | tom_: I have hardcoded that on my /etc/hosts | 22:47 |
| tom_ | can you query an AAAA record from the deb.devuan.org round robin? | 22:47 |
| tom_ | oh actually | 22:49 |
| tom_ | nevermind | 22:49 |
| tom_ | Looks like I just had another script setting the wrong resolver in resolv.conf | 22:49 |
| Devu33 | networkd or nm? lol | 22:50 |
| brocashelm | networkmanager = gnome's secret way of making everyone hate linux | 22:51 |
| fsmithred | Devu33, I'm getting the same error messages as you when I try 'apt update' but that's with the cdrom NOT mounted | 22:52 |
| fsmithred | when I figure out how to mount it, I'll try to install something | 22:52 |
| brocashelm | i remember when i switched back to upstart init on mint 18.3 and had to manually mount my cd/dvd drive every time i wanted to rip stuff. i remembered it was systemdee that automatically mounted that stuff without extra effort on my part | 22:54 |
| fsmithred | well, if this was a real system with a real optical disk, I could mount it in a couple seconds | 22:55 |
| fsmithred | but it's fucking qemu, so I have to search (again) how to do this | 22:55 |
| Devu33 | echo "/root/beowulf.iso /media/cdrom iso9660 loop 0 0" >> /etc/fstab; mount /media/cdrom | 22:55 |
| fsmithred | I don't think I can do that | 22:56 |
| fsmithred | the iso is bigger than the ram | 22:56 |
| Devu33 | it will losetup bind to a loop0, not load it on ram | 22:56 |
| Devu33 | unless you are running systemd, then you better not be using anything but .mount or something | 22:57 |
| fsmithred | yeah, I was thinking that I was running a live iso, but I have virtual disk space for the iso | 23:00 |
| Devu33 | cool, just do "losetup /dev/loop0 /my/beowulf.iso" | 23:01 |
| Devu33 | unless you using loop0 already | 23:01 |
| Devu33 | afaik should not use any memory | 23:01 |
| fsmithred | I shouldn't need to use losetup to mount the iso | 23:01 |
| fsmithred | don't even need to use -o loop | 23:01 |
| fsmithred | exit | 23:02 |
| fsmithred | mounted it at /media/cdrom and proceeded to install openssh-server without recommmends | 23:04 |
| fsmithred | no error | 23:04 |
| fsmithred | apt update gives error | 23:04 |
| fsmithred | that actually makes sense - you can't update what's on the read-only media | 23:05 |
| Devu33 | fsmithered, I dont understand the last bit | 23:08 |
| Devu33 | cant update what's on the read-only media | 23:08 |
| Devu33 | what error did you get? | 23:08 |
| fsmithred | can't use apt to add a cdrom, does not have Rlease file, Please use apt-cdrom | 23:09 |
| Devu33 | E: The repository 'cdrom://[Devuan GNU/Linux 3.0 (beowulf) amd64 - desktop 20200526] beowulf Release' does not have a Release file.N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default.N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details. | 23:09 |
| fsmithred | yeah | 23:10 |
| fsmithred | how can you update the repository on the cdrom? | 23:10 |
| fsmithred | you can't change what's on it | 23:10 |
| Devu33 | but neither it can update on http | 23:11 |
| Devu33 | it updates on your own /var/lib/apt/ and /var/cache/apt | 23:11 |
| Devu33 | right? | 23:11 |
| Devu33 | it updates "from" file: cdrom: or http: | 23:12 |
| Devu33 | correct? | 23:12 |
| fsmithred | huh? | 23:12 |
| fsmithred | if you have http sources, it will go check the sources and update the cache | 23:12 |
| Devu33 | and if you have a cdrom: source? | 23:13 |
| fsmithred | I guess if you have cdrom source, it checks for the same cd and installs from that | 23:13 |
| fsmithred | but can't update it | 23:13 |
| Devu33 | ah! | 23:13 |
| fsmithred | only way to update that is to make new isos | 23:13 |
| Devu33 | but what If you removed cdrom: and enabled http: | 23:14 |
| fsmithred | then it should update with the online sources | 23:14 |
| Devu33 | then at a later date, without a internet connection you disable http and reenable the cdrom: | 23:14 |
| fsmithred | if you do the correct steps, you should be able to change back and forth | 23:14 |
| Devu33 | how are you gonna tell the system to refresh its index of available packages from the cd? | 23:14 |
| fsmithred | apt-cdrom add | 23:14 |
| Devu33 | understood, let me try again | 23:15 |
| Devu33 | your were right | 23:20 |
| Devu33 | sorry for wasting your time :( | 23:20 |
| Devu33 | just had to follow the correct sequence... | 23:20 |
| Devu33 | and no "update" | 23:20 |
| Devu33 | muscle memory... | 23:20 |
| fsmithred | yeah, I learned something | 23:20 |
| plasma41 | o/ | 23:29 |
| tom_ | HA | 23:30 |
| tom_ | git this | 23:30 |
| tom_ | github.com has no AAAA record | 23:30 |
| tom_ | *M$ management | 23:30 |
| djph | did they ever? | 23:40 |
| brocashelm | more projects should move over to something like gitlab if they care about freedom | 23:41 |
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