libera/#devuan/ Monday, 2020-07-06

* kreyren[m] made a major mistake in pinning which broke his whole system so hes rebuilding devan again~00:07
* kreyren[m] also has to so that whole process from SSH on his android because Getty is hugged and xorg is refusing to start00:07
kreyrenkreyren@leonid:~$ DRI_PRIME=1 glxinfo | grep "OpenGL renderer"04:50
kreyrenOpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) HD Graphics 3000 (SNB GT2)04:50
kreyrenwhat am i doing wrong x.x04:50
onefangI like how part of what you typed turned into a rainbow, pity the chip isn't showing you pretty colours.04:52
* kreyren created https://github.com/Kreyren/kreyren/issues/1604:54
kreyrenonefang, wut04:55
onefangIn some IRC clients, like mine, some combinations of letters turn into little graphical icons.  Usually smilies.  Whatever letters you put after "Intel" got turned into an icon of a rainbow.04:56
kreyrenlol04:56
onefangAh (R) turns into a rainbow.04:56
kreyren\(\R\) = rainbow04:56
kreyren?04:56
onefangExactly.04:57
kreyrenlol04:57
FlibberTGibbethi, just trying to install beowulf from the live usb and it failed at installing busybox! any workaround for this please?13:50
FlibberTGibbetdidn't know busybox was even required :)13:51
FlibberTGibbetoh ffs. sda1 is 244MB not GB.13:54
brocashelmoh yeah i have had that happen a few times lol13:56
brocashelmdid it work this time?13:56
gnarfaceyou can get a smaller install with a netinstall iso13:56
FlibberTGibbetnot sure I'll get system in 244MB though :)13:56
FlibberTGibbetfixed now, just backtracked and added the magic 'GB' to the partition sizes :)13:56
brocashelmnice13:57
FlibberTGibbetfinally killing Win from my work machine and migrating that last box over to *X...13:57
brocashelmhappy to hear that. i switched to devuan (refracta) permanently last month and have been very satisfied with the progress this distro had made (i followed since ascii was beta)13:58
brocashelmi used mint for 2-3 years straight and decided it was time to move on13:59
FlibberTGibbetyes, i started with mint. really got bitten with mint a few months ago when it snarfled the encryption on my wife's laptop account. tbh didn't realise that mint encrypted home by default. have a long route to recovery for the data but it's a royal pain14:00
FlibberTGibbetin short i prefer the devuan way of doing it :)14:00
brocashelmi kept 18.3 because it was the last release with upstart as optional init, and that one was simpler and less bloated than shitstemd. the ironic thing is upstart was developed by ubuntu, and i would rather use that one (even abandoned as it is) than poetteringshit14:05
FlibberTGibbetamen. i think that was about when I considered switching...14:05
brocashelmi also never installed debian itself, so coming to devuan was a fresh experience14:05
brocashelmi enabled the non-free repos and got my amd radeon gpu working14:06
brocashelmit's been smooth sailing ever since14:06
brocashelmwith runit as my init, it's a whole lot snappier and stable, while consuming very low resources14:06
FlibberTGibbetdrivers are always the worst :)14:06
brocashelmyeah, i had to realize the blobs were still proprietary14:07
FlibberTGibbethave to set up bumblebee/optimus on this Dell which should be fun :/14:07
brocashelmi'm also using dells. those budget refurbished desktops are a steal. rocking an i5-3570 and devuan + xfce treats it well14:08
FlibberTGibbethow well behaved is your radion driver?14:08
FlibberTGibbetyes, nearly all refurb corporate-warrior machines here :)14:08
onefangEww, Optimus.14:09
brocashelmit's pretty robust. i have rx 460 and rx 550 gpus14:09
FlibberTGibbetsounds good14:09
brocashelmindeed, those optiplex machines can go for like $100 on ebay and give you just as much power as (if not more than) a typical "new pc". only thing i really hate is the uefi crap, which you can disable in place of legacy bios14:10
FlibberTGibbetugh, yes, not a uefi fan.14:10
brocashelmi got several here of different types and devuan is going to replace the rest still with mint14:11
FlibberTGibbethah, it's installed and running...14:11
brocashelmnice14:11
brocashelmcreating a /home partition is convenient because that takes care of 80% of my configs and the rest is just checking /etc and the like14:11
FlibberTGibbetshould have done that -- will do when I buy a much larger ssd14:12
FlibberTGibbetjust swap and / for now14:12
brocashelmyes, you will receive faster access14:12
brocashelmi don't use swap myself. does it benefit you?14:12
FlibberTGibbetnot a clue, just habit!14:12
brocashelmyou can also use swap as a file (swapfile)14:12
FlibberTGibbettrue. anyway, have to set this monster up now...catch you later!14:13
brocashelmttyl14:13
ham5urgI just booted devuan-live amd64 iso. Opened a terminal and partitioned/formated the harddisk. After I started debootstrap and got: unable to execute target architecture19:08
ham5urgthe command: debootstrap --arch amd64 stable /mnt/ http://deb.devuan.org/merged/19:08
fsmithredham5urg, try beowulf instead of stable19:09
ham5urgBtw. PATH is not set. debootstrap is not working if not used as /usr/sbin/debootstrap19:09
fsmithredsu changed19:09
fsmithreduse 'su -' to get root's path19:10
ham5urgfsmithred, thanks a ton.19:10
ham5urg'su -' was needed19:11
fsmithredif you want su to act like it used to...19:11
fsmithredput: ALWAYS_SET_PATH yes19:11
fsmithredin /etc/default/su19:11
ham5urgIs there something behind this behaviour of su?19:11
fsmithredit went from part of the shadow package to part of util-linux19:12
fsmithredI've never seen an explanation of why they changed it19:12
fsmithredit = the behavior19:12
ham5urgI see. Nevertheless, thanks19:12
fsmithredI like to get root's path without changing directory19:12
fsmithredis debootstrap working now?19:14
ham5urglike a charm. already finished19:14
fsmithredit didn't like 'stable'?19:14
fsmithredor it was the path?19:14
ham5urgI used stable. It was the path.19:15
ham5urgtrying to use two mdraid with gpt and bios and efi boot19:15
fsmithredfrom the live-iso?19:16
ham5urglive-iso is just for booting the machine the first time to partition/format/debootstrap/grub the system19:17
fsmithredyjsy19:18
fsmithredpp[d19:19
fsmithredshit19:19
fsmithredthat'll work. Stay focused.19:19
ham5urgIt will work19:22
brocashelmis anyone having issues with xfce4-screenshooter delaying screenshot retrieval after initiating the process? i was using 1.9.3-1 and downgraded to 1.8.2-2, which made the problem go away20:38
brocashelmhas this been fixed upstream?20:43
golinuxbrocashelm: If there isn't a bug report, file one upstream20:58
fsmithredbrocashelm, I've been using 1.9.3-1 all year20:58

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