rtn0 | i | 00:57 |
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rtn0 | hi | 00:57 |
rtn0 | everyone | 00:57 |
rtn0 | i heard that devuan does not have an installer. that it needs to be installed "on top of" an existing Debian installation. is that true? | 00:58 |
golinux | No | 00:58 |
golinux | https://devuan.org/os/install | 00:58 |
golinux | For installation choices see https://devuan.org/get-devuan | 00:59 |
nemo | rtn0: who said that? | 01:00 |
rtn0 | a friend | 01:00 |
rtn0 | *visits devuan.org* | 01:00 |
nemo | rtn0: it did work for me on my cloud host, but not recommended | 01:00 |
golinux | An knowledgeable friend | 01:00 |
nemo | rtn0: does your friend use devuan? ☺ | 01:01 |
golinux | An UNknowledgeable (stupid spell checker | 01:01 |
golinux | ) | 01:01 |
nemo | golinux: I was waiting for the </sarc> | 01:01 |
golinux | That's not really sarcasm. It's a frontal attack | 01:02 |
nemo | well. without the "UN" | 01:05 |
rtn0 | no. he uses debian | 01:09 |
rtn0 | and so do i... for now... | 01:09 |
rtn0 | but i might install devuan | 01:09 |
rtn0 | imma let him know. | 01:10 |
rtn0 | thx all | 01:10 |
rtn0 | it was my friend CrystalMath. He claims that on older versions of Devuan, it had no installer. was it like that at one point? | 01:27 |
rtn0 | on the earliest versions, it just needed to be installed "on top" of Debian, right? | 01:27 |
nemo | I guess if you push any project far enough back in time you can get away with a statement like that | 01:28 |
nemo | "redhat has no installer" "yes it does" | 01:28 |
nemo | "well, in 1996 it was still being manually setup on the first distro machines so I was technically right" | 01:29 |
nemo | golinux: hm. I figured I'd go look to see just how long you guys had been doing installer work | 01:32 |
nemo | golinux: and the repo link off of https://devuan.org/os/source-code 404'd | 01:32 |
rtn0 | lol | 01:35 |
nemo | hm. at least 3 years back for fsmithred's stuff | 01:35 |
rtn0 | ok. | 01:37 |
rtn0 | so what versions of Debian are Devuan compatible with? can it be installed on Jessie? | 01:37 |
nemo | "Please read relevant documentation to avoid “unintended consequences”. It is possible to upgrade from Devuan ASCII or migrate from Debian Buster, Stretch or Jessie to Devuan Beowulf." | 01:38 |
nemo | off the frontpage ☺ | 01:38 |
nemo | also https://devuan.org/os/releases | 01:39 |
nemo | rtn0: could just use the installer to install clean though typically most people just really care about /home | 01:39 |
fsmithred | I'm pretty sure the valentine iso did not have an installer. That was pre-beta jessie. | 01:40 |
nemo | fsmithred: I was just checking commit history on your refracta stuff ☺ | 01:41 |
fsmithred | I made unofficial devuan jessie beta live isos that included refractainstaller, and there were official jessie installer isos | 01:41 |
fsmithred | oh, that probably came later | 01:42 |
fsmithred | um | 01:42 |
fsmithred | I guess refracta tools were in repo by the time jessie was released | 01:42 |
fsmithred | check github.com for the really old refracta stuff (2011) | 01:42 |
rtn0 | oh i can install clean? cool. | 01:47 |
rtn0 | thx for answering nemo and fsmithred | 01:47 |
rtn0 | bbl | 01:47 |
rtn0 | oh and thx golinux too | 01:48 |
rtn0 | bbl | 01:48 |
golinux | nemo: The link to the source-code was broken because our git was recently moved. You can find it at https://git.devuan.org/devuan/www.devuan.org | 17:57 |
nemo | golinux: I found it eventually by browsing off the root. was just mentioning in case someone was interested in fixing the link | 17:58 |
nemo | maybe do a recursive sed in the checkout of the website ☺ | 17:59 |
golinux | I have fixed it in the beta but someone with more skillz than me will have to do the search/replace in the footer. | 17:59 |
golinux | Thanks for catching that. | 18:00 |
golinux | I didn't follow up yesterday because I am trying to exit from some of the responsibilities I've taken on for so many years | 18:01 |
golinux | Since no one else caught it . . . sigh . . . | 18:01 |
xrogaan | urgh, Super+p display xfce screen configuration window. I can't figure out how to disable that. | 19:43 |
xrogaan | found it | 19:43 |
xrogaan | There are two places for keyboard shortcut, didn't look at the right one. | 19:44 |
nemo | xrogaan: heh. that was my usual issue with XFCE, one of the reasons my mom and I are still on MATE | 19:49 |
nemo | thankfully MATE showed up since I was experimenting with XFCE after disappointment with gnome3 | 19:50 |
g0zzy | Just installed Beowulf with wired Ethernet. wicd can't seem to see either wireless nic. Wifi hardware light on. No firmware missing. Any ideas? | 19:56 |
filipdevuan_ | maybe something is not okay with wicd | 20:28 |
g0zzy | Wondering what a good way to coax iall into waking up is | 21:11 |
xrogaan | is chimaera the devuan's testing? | 22:31 |
xrogaan | Err :11 http://deb.devuan.org/merged testing-security InRelease | 22:36 |
xrogaan | 403 Forbidden [IP : 2a02:2a38:1:400:422a:422a:422a:422a 80] | 22:36 |
xrogaan | oops? | 22:36 |
xrogaan | wait, the testing channel is still tagged beowulf? | 22:37 |
onefang | There is no testing-security. | 22:37 |
onefang | And yes, testing is chimaera. | 22:38 |
xrogaan | this still exists though :/ http://deb.devuan.org/devuan/dists/testing-security/InRelease | 22:38 |
onefang | Exists, but is a dead symlink on the master server. | 22:39 |
xrogaan | ok | 22:42 |
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