libera/#devuan/ Wednesday, 2020-08-19

emdeteit seems packages.roundr.devuan.org is down?07:27
rgh[m]Use deb.devuan.org07:28
rgh[m]packages.roundr.devuan.org has been down for a few days. If you look through the IRC logs you'll see some chatter about within the last few days.07:29
emdeteoups, sorry. & thank you07:29
rgh[m]It caught me out as well which is how I know ;-)07:29
emdetergh[m]: do you know about it? i didnt find any explanation...07:39
rgh[m]Let me have a look.07:39
rgh[m]The timestamp on the message is 18 Aug 2020 15:43:19 which I assume is UTC.07:43
rgh[m]s/on the message/on the original message/07:43
rrqrgh[m]: packages.roundr.devuan.org is no longer on devuan's infrastructure. use deb.devuan.org07:46
rgh[m]Yeah, I have. I was just pointing out to emdete where I found that information.07:47
* rrq reading more backlog07:47
rgh[m];-)07:47
emdetein ceres: libelogind0 Provides: libsystemd0 (= 243.8) while libsystemd0 is Version: 246.2-1 - should i file a bug or will that be fixed anyway soon?09:04
rrqafaik it's on it's way09:33
uiuiui8hello12:40
uiuiui8does anyone know if it is possible to install gallery-dl on devuan?12:40
debdoghttps://github.com/mikf/gallery-dl#from-source seems possible12:43
rrq_beowulf-backports/main12:44
uiuiui8Thanks - I tried that but the install failed12:47
uiuiui8but...12:48
uiuiui8I just got the .deb from here https://packages.debian.org/sid/all/gallery-dl/download12:48
uiuiui8and it seems to have installed ok12:49
uiuiui8and confirmed working 100% :)12:50
openbsdtai123icewm is quite dirty package... a fix is needed.16:49
Atari-Froschwut?17:07
* Atari-Frosch works with icewm since 1997 ;-)17:07
furrywolfhappy icewm user here too.  there's a bug with it and modern x versions, that's supposedly fixed upstream, but I compiled upstream and it still has it...17:08
Wonkaback then, when I wanted transparency and therefore needed a compositor, I switched from fluxbox to xfce...17:11
Wonkanow I'm more-or-less longing for xfwm to be reimplemented for Wayland17:12
openbsdtai123xfce takes lot of resource... have you tried the basisc WM based on twm, like ctwm, ... and so on. transparency can be enabled on the top, but it takes 10 pct or 15 pct of cpu at full speed.17:20
openbsdtai123wayland will kill X11 unix and unix....17:20
openbsdtai123Wayland> linux, driven by industrial and business madness17:21
WonkaWayland will at least gain dynamic addition and removal of GPUs, X11 likely won't.17:22
FlibberTGibbetjust saw this on installing a 'new' kernel package on beowulf:17:22
FlibberTGibbetW: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/i915/skl_huc_2.0.0.bin for module i91517:22
FlibberTGibbetand a dozen or so like it.17:23
openbsdtai123this is senseless to go wayland.. there is no features at all.17:23
Wonkaalso, transparency should not take CPU but rather GPU load17:23
openbsdtai123ssh forward wont work.17:23
FlibberTGibbetis there a package for the firmware?17:23
openbsdtai123Forget with wayland C XC17:23
openbsdtai123-X -C17:23
WonkaI don't really use that anyway, if anything it's x11vnc and vncviewer17:24
openbsdtai123well, x11 -C -X is not non usefulll... a new shall not impose to remove Unix original features.17:25
Wonkaalso, there's still the X11 server for wayland - you can do x11 ssh forwarding from in there17:26
openbsdtai123For about one or two years, then it will be exhumed.17:26
Wonkausing Wayland as the main display server does not at all mean that X11 is unavailable17:26
Wonkayeah. right. because wayland was invented yesterday.17:27
openbsdtai123The idea  of Ubuntu, Gnome,... is to completely replace the old X1117:27
openbsdtai123openbsd has a step ahead with own X11.17:30
openbsdtai123now xenodm is very mature and realiable.17:30
MinceRhow dependent is that X11 on upstream?17:39
openbsdtai123hello17:48
I3^RELATIVISM0/ openbsdtai12319:23

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