| asterismo_l | hi, i downloaded a i386 iso netinstall to install in a 32-bit intel xeon and grub says "invalid arch-independent ELF magic" | 01:26 |
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| asterismo_l | how can i fix this? i tried to install it on a software raid1 | 01:26 |
| gnarface | hmm, i think that error might be about uefi | 01:31 |
| gnarface | asterismo_l: https://askubuntu.com/questions/72003/how-do-i-resolve-a-grub-invalid-arch-independent-elf-magic-error | 01:33 |
| gnarface | the first answer looks legit | 01:33 |
| gnarface | basically you can disable UEFI or use a live image to install some grub-efi* package... | 01:36 |
| gnarface | (some of the xeons are actually "amd64" despite all their efforts to hide that from their customers, though either type should be able to run the i386 stuff you might be leaving performance on the table) | 01:37 |
| asterismo_l | it is a Dell Precision 530 from year 2001 | 01:46 |
| asterismo_l | no UEFI | 01:46 |
| asterismo_l | Intel Xeon Prestonia | 01:46 |
| asterismo_l | 32 bit | 01:46 |
| gnarface | hmmm | 01:48 |
| gnarface | odd | 01:49 |
| gnarface | alexandros_c_: show me the exact link to the image you downloaded, please? | 01:49 |
| gnarface | alexandros_c_: other suggestions i'm coming up with are: 1) make sure you pointed grub at the MBR of the correct disk, and 2) try lilo instead | 01:51 |
| gnarface | alexandros_c_: you're not dual-booting with a windows install are you, by chance? | 01:52 |
| gnarface | alexandros_c_: or in a virtual machine actually inside the bare metal? | 01:54 |
| gnarface | alexandros_c_: and, has it booted any other linux distros before? | 02:08 |
| asterismo_l | does grub installs the same on IDE drives on a RAID1? | 03:56 |
| asterismo_l | i'm reinstalling with 2 raid1 md devices, one for swap and other for root | 03:57 |
| asterismo_l | what is the ligthweight desktop available in devuan? | 03:58 |
| gnarface | asterismo_l: there's a lot of lightweight ones | 04:41 |
| gnarface | asterismo_l: i'm not exactly sure about the trick to booting from raid | 04:42 |
| gnarface | asterismo_l: there's a way to make the rootfs boot from a raid array but it's not actually advised | 04:43 |
| gnarface | asterismo_l: (it's preferable to make a small / and put everything else on the raid) | 04:44 |
| gnarface | asterismo_l: the trick might be something like grub goes on the primary ide MBR and the mdadm device? not sure really. people do it but like i said it's not generally advised for the boot partition itself to be on raid | 04:45 |
| gnarface | asterismo_l: did you try the installer in expert mode? that might help | 04:47 |
| asterismo_l | i'm trying a new raid1 layout, if this does not work, i'll try expert | 04:58 |
| asterismo_l | i ended up installing devuan because antix does not support install on a raid | 04:58 |
| gnarface | if there's a way to do it from the installer it'll be in expert mode, i'm pretty sure | 05:00 |
| gnarface | but i thought i recalled that actually booting from the raid itself required a manual change to the grub config or the mdadm config after install | 05:00 |
| asterismo_l | i've been a debian user for 15 years now | 05:01 |
| gnarface | i really don't know it's been years since i've even looked into that | 05:01 |
| asterismo_l | started with debian 3.1 sarge | 05:01 |
| asterismo_l | and now i'm trying to install devuan 3.0 | 05:01 |
| asterismo_l | hahah | 05:01 |
| gnarface | well the installer shouldn't be very different from the debian one for the same version | 05:01 |
| gnarface | er, for the equivalent version i mean | 05:01 |
| asterismo_l | it is pretty much the same look | 05:02 |
| asterismo_l | now you get a graphic installer in debian | 05:02 |
| asterismo_l | i always used the text one, which is the first i've ever used | 05:03 |
| asterismo_l | blue background, red progress bars... | 05:03 |
| asterismo_l | before antix, i tried freebsd | 05:04 |
| asterismo_l | i'm trying to revive an old Dell Precision 530MT, mith dual Intel Xeon prestonia processors, from year 2001 | 05:05 |
| asterismo_l | 2GB of ECC rambus | 05:05 |
| asterismo_l | you get the point... old muscle | 05:06 |
| asterismo_l | the box has a CD-ROM | 05:06 |
| asterismo_l | and freebsd guys offer you an ISO which is 730MB in size | 05:06 |
| asterismo_l | it seems like a joke, 30MB passed of CD-R capacity... you have to burn it into a DVD | 05:07 |
| asterismo_l | but the thing is that i really want to try systemd-free distros | 05:07 |
| asterismo_l | Antix was one of them, and it ran vory well actually | 05:08 |
| nullraum | if this and the few other projects didn't exist, I'd probably be learning a lot more about bsd by now | 05:08 |
| asterismo_l | until i upgraded to a raid | 05:08 |
| asterismo_l | i mean, freebsd was really nasty | 05:08 |
| nullraum | how so | 05:09 |
| asterismo_l | i got wrong screen res, awfull performance with the lesser cpu intensive filesystem UFS | 05:09 |
| asterismo_l | i installed Firefox from ports, and it crashed very nasty | 05:09 |
| asterismo_l | 15 min and reinstalled antix all the way | 05:09 |
| asterismo_l | also tried NetBSD, it didn't even boot | 05:10 |
| asterismo_l | I mean, it is a Dell workstation from 2001, AGP graphics card, 2GB of RAM, IDE drives... | 05:11 |
| asterismo_l | i mean, come on | 05:11 |
| nullraum | hmm | 05:11 |
| nullraum | that is unfortunate | 05:11 |
| nullraum | I just built a new computer and put devuan on it | 05:11 |
| asterismo_l | Intel Xeons that are 130nm lithography, like Pentium 4s | 05:11 |
| nullraum | the only issue I've seen is some tearing effects when scrolling | 05:11 |
| asterismo_l | this is my first devuan install | 05:11 |
| nullraum | this is one of two I currently have | 05:12 |
| asterismo_l | i see | 05:12 |
| nullraum | the other one is a laptop that...I'm actually not sure what I'm using it for | 05:12 |
| asterismo_l | well | 05:14 |
| asterismo_l | it did not boot up | 05:14 |
| nullraum | devuan didn't? | 05:14 |
| asterismo_l | grub error: file '/boot/grub/i386-pc/normal.mod' not found | 05:15 |
| asterismo_l | Entering rescue mode... | 05:15 |
| asterismo_l | grub rescue> | 05:15 |
| asterismo_l | damn | 05:15 |
| asterismo_l | there is nothing in boot directory in the raid | 05:17 |
| asterismo_l | ls (md/0)/boot/ | 05:17 |
| asterismo_l | thorws an empty line | 05:17 |
| nullraum | I would like to offer help, but I know virtually nothing about this topic | 05:17 |
| gnarface | asterismo_l: some googling suggests that you need to find the raid array in /dev/mapper/[something] and install grub to that | 05:22 |
| gnarface | asterismo_l: assuming the raid got built properly? i guess that's probably incomplete info... | 05:22 |
| asterismo_l | the installer only asks me if i want to install grub in one of the two disks of the raid | 05:26 |
| asterismo_l | the raid itself is not shown | 05:26 |
| gnarface | even in expert mode, with manual partitioning mode? | 05:30 |
| gnarface | and if you're using LVM too that might change things | 05:31 |
| asterismo_l | hi | 22:16 |
| asterismo_l | i managed to install devuan LXQt | 22:16 |
| asterismo_l | it asked me wifi password during install, now i cannot see any wifi manager, which application is? | 22:17 |
| gast0n | wicd? | 22:17 |
| asterismo_l | it is not installed | 22:17 |
| asterismo_l | is there any wifi support in a fresh installed desktop LXQt? | 22:18 |
| asterismo_l | i dont see anything in the tray | 22:18 |
| ShorTie | apt install wpasupplicant says ?? | 22:23 |
| ShorTie | did you look in /etc/wpasupplicant ?? | 22:24 |
| asterismo_l | it is installed | 22:24 |
| rennj | cli | 22:25 |
| rennj | iwlist scan | 22:25 |
| rennj | wpa_passphrase,iwlist,iwconfig people dont like | 22:25 |
| ShorTie | any firmware needed ?? | 22:25 |
| asterismo_l | no firmware | 22:25 |
| asterismo_l | needed | 22:25 |
| rennj | wpa_passphrase <ssid> [passphrase] > wpa_supplicant.conf | 22:27 |
| rennj | wpa_supplicant -i wlan0 -c wpa_supplicant.conf -B | 22:27 |
| rennj | dhclient wlan0; done | 22:27 |
| asterismo_l | wlan0 Interfase doesn't support scanning: Network is down | 22:28 |
| rennj | 802.11ac isnt even in the kernel | 22:28 |
| asterismo_l | i chose the wrong desktop env | 22:28 |
| rennj | my driver still i dont think is in | 22:28 |
| rennj | and ive had it like 3 years | 22:28 |
| asterismo_l | missing a button to click on my wifi network man | 22:29 |
| ShorTie | install wicd | 22:31 |
| rennj | wpa-gui you should have | 22:31 |
| rennj | wpa_gui/qt bloat probably can do what wicd does | 22:33 |
| asterismo_l | none of that | 22:34 |
| rennj | https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Wpa_supplicant | 22:35 |
| rennj | why probably | 22:35 |
| rennj | or devuan doesnt like wpa_supplicant | 22:35 |
| rennj | Optionally, also install the official wpa_supplicant_guiAUR which provides wpa_gui, a graphical front-end for wpa_supplicant | 22:36 |
| asterismo_l | i'll grab the damn ethernet cable | 22:38 |
| asterismo_l | thanks | 22:38 |
| Garb0 | Anyone getting their xorg frozen when using redshift? beowulf here. | 23:26 |
| Garb0 | amdgpu if that matters | 23:26 |
| humpelstilzchen[ | Garb0: not an issue on my laptop (intel) | 23:35 |
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