libera/#devuan/ Friday, 2020-12-25

systemdletesu - otheruser /path/to/command   does not work the way I expect.  It prompts me for the password, takes the first character without echoing, but then emits linefeed and echos all subsequent characters.  This is on beowulf.08:11
rwpsystemdlete, Is your problem with su or with /path/to/command?  But the syntax being used does seem most irregular to me.08:32
systemdleterwp:  THe syntax changed with this release of the system.  You can now indicate a user and a command to execute.08:36
systemdleteThe problem is with echoing of password characters, not user OR which command.08:37
rwpIt was always possible to indicate a command.  But usually with the -c option.08:37
systemdleteSee the man page.  or the short help from the command itself.08:38
systemdleteAgain, the problem is the echoing of password characters, regardless of the syntax.08:38
systemdleteIt might just be something going on with my particular install, idk.08:39
rwpSo normally su (and other password reading programs) will put the terminal into raw mode before reading the password.08:39
systemdleteYep.  That's what I was expecting it to do.08:40
rwpSo...  I would start by looking at 'stty -a' and comparing the behavior against 'sudo' which will do the same thing.08:40
systemdleteBut it only does that for the first character.08:40
systemdletesudo works fine, btw.08:40
systemdleteok.  I see the problem; it was just that one terminal session.  I opened another window, got a fresh shell.  So maybe stty was messed up or something.08:42
rwpWhich version are you using?  (I have ceres available immediately here.)08:42
rwpOh good!08:42
systemdleteI did not intentionally change term settings.08:42
rwpIf you still have the terminal around you could dump the settings from it and compare them with another terminal.08:43
rwpAdditionally you could look at your shell history and see if anything looks possibly likely to be a problem.08:44
clortif you run some nested xserver, xclipsync is a nice utility to share primary paste buffer or clipboard08:45
clorti'd like to sync pastebuffer and clipboard, so any write to either gets echoed in the other08:45
Weeezyis it possible to set the parameters that initiate the battery charging, at what power level it starts at particularly?15:28
gnarfaceyou might be able to turn charging on and off by poking at stuff in /sys/15:34
gnarfacejust a guess15:34
gnarfacei haven't heard of any charging threshold sort of thing, i would guess you'd have to implement that in userspace15:35
Weeezythere seems to be lot's of ways to look at the status of the battery15:36
gnarfaceyes15:36
Weeezythey all show a certain amount of charge, and indicate it's charging, while not actually charging15:37
WeeezyI have two laptops that do the same thing15:37
gnarfacehmm, could be old batteries?15:38
Weeezyboth have good batteries15:38
gnarfacetry putting the cpu frequency governor in power saving mode?15:38
Weeezyhmm.15:39
gnarfaceit's theoretically possible to outrun the charger15:39
Weeezygood point15:39
gnarfacedoesn't really seem common but it would be the type of thing that could happen to new or old hardware15:40
WeeezyI think both laptops are aprox. four years old15:41
gnarfacethough i would kinda expect that to be more of a problem with mobile devices than pc laptops15:41
gnarface...outrunning a good charger, that is15:41
gnarfacebut if the chargers were weakening, that could be a symptom15:43
gnarfacethere might be some representation of the actual current being used in there to charge too15:43
gnarfacesomewhere15:43
gnarfacei think15:43
WeeezyI suppose it could be a bios defect, tho I have updated them to newest available.15:44
gnarfaceacpi is installed?15:45
gnarfaceacpid is running?15:45
gnarfacestock kernels from the repos?15:46
Weeezyit is installed15:46
Weeezyacpi -b   returns: battery 0: Unknown, 1715:49
gnarfacethat's odd15:49
gnarfacethere are some modules associated with battery charging, i wonder if you have not loaded them?15:49
Weeezysomething is unknown, I'm not sure what the unknown thing is supposed to be15:49
gnarfacecould just be a missing driver or missing feature in the driver, but it also might just be an autoload glitch afaik15:50
Weeezyman page doesn't tell me much15:50
gnarfacelsmod |grep battery15:51
gnarface?15:51
gnarfaceany modules loaded with battery in the name?15:51
Weeezybattery                20480  015:52
gnarfacehmmm15:52
gnarfacei wonder if task-laptop would help15:52
gnarfaceseems like a stretch though15:52
gnarfacemight be a actual kernel problem15:52
Weeezywell, anyway, dinner bell is ringing.15:54
Weeezythank you gnarface15:54
n4dirThe PC boots directly into Windows, and i can't figure out the keyboard shortcut to go into BIOS to make it boot from CD or USB Stick15:58
n4dirthis is the motherboard: https://www.asrock.com/MB/Intel/J4105B-ITX/index.asp15:58
n4dirwhat to do?15:59
gnarfacetry them a??16:00
gnarfaceall?16:00
gnarfaceWeeezy: sorry i couldn't help.  i'd search google for the model name of the laptop and linux16:00
n4diras it boots pretty fast that isn't really an option16:00
gnarfacen4dir: certainly the online manual says16:01
n4dirSo i got the shortcut, F2 or Del, but nothing happens when switching it. It then just hangs at the ASRock  page16:18
n4dirUh yeah. Now am in what i call BIOS.16:20
n4dirBoot options menu has Boot option 1 and Boot option 216:20
n4dirboth have: Windows Boot manager. UEFI. Disabled16:21
n4dirWould i choose "Disabled" ?16:21
tuxd3vn4dir, boot option 1 is the one it will use to boot :)16:51
tuxd3vyou need to choose the correct option as 116:52
tuxd3vyou can disable UEFI16:52
n4diruhum. thanks16:53
tuxd3vyou installed devuan in other disc?16:54
tuxd3vor is the same for windows and linux?16:54
n4dirI am in the middle of installing16:54
tuxd3vha ok16:54
tuxd3v:)16:54
KREYRENHow much do i have to see devuan's torrent to get virtual headpats~19:48
furrywolfnone, as long as you're cute and fluffy.19:56
gnarfacelast i heard it definitely could use more seeders19:57
gnarfaceif you're the only one it probably won't take much to be appreciated19:58
furrywolfalas, seeding torrents isn't practical on my mobile data.19:58
plasma41I'm now reminded that I haven't begun running my bittorrent client since my last reboot. Seeding now resumed.20:03
KREYRENfr33domlover, i am cuty, but not too fluffy~20:15
KREYRENfwiw seems to have a  lot of seeds already around 6020:15

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