libera/#devuan/ Monday, 2021-03-08

DashiePieis anyone familiar with retroarch?04:00
DashiePieanyone know why retroarch won't download cores from the core updater menu?04:18
gnarfaceDashiePie: dunno, check to make sure your download url is correct in the config file05:13
DashiePieI think it's because the cores folder is set to where apt/aptitude would set them05:13
DashiePieI am dumb, but I just need to unhide hidden folders and set it to the cores folder in .config instead, I s'pose05:14
DashiePiewell, the psp core works, so that's good, but unfortunately, the mupen64plus core they have seems to disable my hotkeys and controller? not sure why that is, but I can't play games with it06:04
gnarfacemaybe it's just grabbing something else as the default controller instead06:17
gnarfacei would have to assume they have separate controller configs06:17
gnarfacedevice mappings not button mappings, but maybe both06:17
gnarfacei'm not familiar with retroarch specifically, but it has to be able to find the right device from a list in /dev/input/ and /dev/hidraw*06:18
gnarfacesteam games get it wrong too sometimes06:18
gnarfacebut could be a permissions issue too06:19
DashiePieit worked with the package manager core, mupen64plus 2.0, but it didn't with the retroarch download core 2.207:03
DashiePienot sure what I did, or if I really did anything, but it totally screwed the pooch07:03
DashiePiewhen I start a game with that core, I can't even use esc to close retroarch, or f1 to open the menu07:04
DashiePieworks with the psp core07:04
DashiePiedifferent controller, but I don't know why that'd make a difference07:04
DashiePieso to summarize, it should work, but something's running interference, and I don't know what07:06
DashiePieit may be that I have two mupen64plus cores, but honestly, they're in entirely different places, and I don't know why that'd affect anything07:06
azg256VERSION08:25
linux_partyiLinux OS rocks! https://ilinuxos.com12:07
Jorilis that a new distribution made by Apple? :D14:02
linux_party@Joril Nope!15:52
linux_partyBut it’s interface is better than macOS’s…15:55
masonMy interface is better than MacOS too. I run Openbox.16:04
MinceRalmost all interfaces are16:20
MinceRmaybe it's made by cisco or logitech16:20
tarzeaunot if you look at the APIs and how to program software using that api16:21
tarzeaumacOS APIs have evolved since 1988, and are still widely popular, on macos/ios obviously, but also using gnustep16:21
tarzeaui mean if you have ever written graphical software, you'll agree qt or gtk is not the greatest things, neither is java with swing16:22
masontarzeau: 1988 is a bit late - but this might be better in #devuan-offtopic16:25
linux_partyiLinux GUI is a mix of Mate, Openbox, Tint2 and many custom interface elements.16:26
linux_partyiLinux OS can even run on an Atom or Pentium 4 CPU…16:33
masonlinux_party: This also would be better in #devuan_offtopic, since it's not wildly focussed on Devuan itself.16:33
MinceRpopularity proves nothing16:35
buZzits literally proprietary, GPL-violating16:46
MinceRthat explains the 'i', then16:48
buZzi thought the i stood for ugly16:49
buZzsame as with apple16:49
MinceR:)16:51
buZzor just a remainder from the clone of the iPaq16:52
buZz'hey they have a i , so should we!'16:52
MinceR:>16:52
MinceRyeah, i forgot that compaq used this prefix too16:53
fsmithredwhat init system does it use?16:53
buZzfsmithred: its debian 10 with a custom WM16:53
buZzmaybe not even custom16:53
buZzso, systemd16:53
buZzthere's no source, the only download source is a google drive O_o16:53
fsmithredi can find one glowing review of it16:55
fsmithredon at least two websites16:55
buZzi think its just a week old or something16:56
onefangI think it's #devuan_offtopic.16:56
buZzwhatever, just nonsense spam16:56
buZzonefang: agreed16:56
masonbuZz: FWIW, it's not strictly violating the GPL. There's a distinction between a business relationship and a license. It might subvert the spirit of the license, but the GPL only applies to people who receive the software from you, so if you don't get the software from them, they're not obligated to provide source. That said, I have no idea at all if their linking their EULA from their download page and17:04
masonsaying to read it before downloading has enforceable meaning if they're not doing something to register that someone has agreed to the EULA.17:04
buZzmason: right, they are just giving binaries without source, while claiming its opensource software17:05
buZzi guess GPL requires for a request for source17:05
buZzbut i'm not gonna use their only contact info , a phone number in greece ...17:05
masonYeah, it varies between GPLv2 and v3 even. They've certainly created a messy, confusing situation, regardless of what they've done with the software. :P17:05
buZzits just spam, anyway17:06
buZzimho not only the advertizing, but also the distro17:06
masonI wonder if they were more trolling or spamming, though. I'd think trolling, given that folks in here very likely aren't going to see their set-up and think "wow, that's for me...."17:06
buZzin the same way that xubuntu/kubuntu/eubuntu/whatever are spam17:07
buZzhe was doing the exact same on many other channels, mason17:07
buZzor is, even17:07
masonAlright, that weights it towards being spam. I hadn't seen it, but I'm in a weird mix of channels.17:07
buZzi saw it in #arduino and #armbian17:08
dreameroh lol, they even came in here17:13
dreamerdamn spambots.17:13
buZzyeah wasnt paying attention earlier on, sorry17:16
xinomiloOT, i believe i know the developer.. but first time i hear of this distro though..18:52

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