libera/#devuan/ Tuesday, 2021-03-09

flingHow to tell a service to start after another?11:15
lts-fling: look at files under /etc/init.d/  and see how near their start there is the "Required-Start" line11:17
flinglts-: edit it but leave commented out?11:19
flinglts-: it worked, thanks11:20
flingHow to prevent it from stopping syslog-ng ?11:20
gnarfacefling: (yes, they look like comments to bash but they're actually parsed elsewhere)11:20
gnarfacethere should be required-stop too11:21
flingnot sure what to put there11:22
gnarfacehttps://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts11:22
gnarfacethere's a devuan version of this somewhere but this still should work11:23
flingCan I have a separate file for my own changes to init deps?11:23
flingFor example on gentoo I can put all this to /etc/rc.conf11:23
gnarfacei don't think it would be difficult to extend to do that, but i don't think it does it by default11:23
fling# rc_nostop is a list of services which will not stop when changing runlevels.11:24
fling^ in rc.conf on gentoo11:24
flingI'm not using openrc right? :D11:25
flingis it a bad idea to install openrc?11:25
gnarfacenah, you can install it11:25
gnarfaceshouldn't hurt anything11:25
flingI will try in few days I think.11:26
flingwill I be able to use netifrc?11:26
gnarfacei don't know, i don't use it.  i'm not sure it will work exactly like you want it to; the one inherited from debian is not identical to gentoo's11:26
gnarfaceyou can run it gentoo's way, it just requires you compile it yourself11:27
gnarfaceor do some clever edits to the debian one11:27
gnarfacesome people do it, i'm still getting by with sysvinit just fine though11:28
flingThanks! I will look into it.11:28
flinggnarface: how exactly can I prevent it from stopping syslog-ng?11:40
gnarfacefling: i'm using rsyslogd so i could only speculate11:42
gnarfacefling: you see the syslog-ng start up script in /etc/init.d/ right?11:43
gnarfacefling: that handles both starting and stopping... you can use the symlinks in /etc/rc*.d/ to override the LSB headers though if you just need simple force on/off behavior11:43
gnarfacefling: have you looked at sysv-rc-conf?11:44
flingI tried sysv-rc-conf11:44
gnarfacewell for example my rsyslog script has "Required-Stop:     umountnfs $time"11:45
gnarfacepresumably you would have to find your equivalent line and just blank it11:45
gnarfacei'm not sure though11:45
gnarfacei'd have to see what it's doing11:46
gnarfacei strongly suspect it's doing whatever it's doing correctly, and it would be a mistake to disable stopping it, but i don't know11:46
gnarfacein my example it wants $time running first and stopping first... presumably that means you could also control this by controlling when $time starts/stops11:48
flinggnarface: syslog-ng has Required-Stop:     $local_fs $network $time $remote_fs12:17
kreyrenHowddya get nouveau to work on devuan? x.x15:15
kreyreni am getting LLVM pipe15:15
kreyrenbut apparently nouveau is supposed to use LLVM pipe?15:15
kreyrenseems to be just on iGPU15:16
djphkreyren: laptop?15:17
kreyren<djph "Krey: laptop?"> desktop15:19
kreyrenGTX97015:20
djphwith an nVidia card?15:20
kreyrenyes15:20
kreyrenworked well last time i used it15:20
kreyrenjust doesn't have vulkan which is sad >.>15:20
djphthen as long as the monitor's plugged into the nVidia card; it _will_ be using nouveau (unless you install 3xx or 4xx or whatever they're up to nowadays)15:20
buZzyeah nouveau is kinda sad15:20
kreyren<buZz "yeah nouveau is kinda sad"> not really it's great on maxwell GPUs way more reliable and more performance15:20
kreyrenjust the vulkan is a setback15:21
buZzthats nice15:21
buZzmy gtx1060 can do 60fps gta5 on the proprietary though15:21
buZz-or- crash with nouveau15:21
kreyrenye i have GTX1080 here but i ain't using it just from a princyple15:22
buZznot to mention the lack of videoencoding accel15:22
kreyrenand i got AMD Vega 56 recently, but i hugged the PCB T-T15:22
kreyrendaaamned hot air station betrayed me15:22
buZzi do a ton of video transcoding, on cpu that just goes ~3-6x slower15:22
buZznot so fun if you need to do a movie in three passes for conversion15:22
djphbuZz: that'd be annoying :)15:23
* kreyren still has no idea how to make the GPU to work15:34
kreyrenx.x15:34
djphplug a VGA (whatever) cable into the port on the graphics card.15:51
HumanG33kso issue to reach repositories with tor.19:58
HumanG33k Timed out while waiting to read 'first part of response' from proxy socks5h://127.0.0.1:905019:59
HumanG33k tor+http://devuanfwojg73k6r.onion19:59
nemohmm fsmithred is not around20:07
nemohe normally answers my distro questions20:07
tuxd3vkreyren, what says 'lsmod|grep nouveau' ?20:35
tuxd3vI am using nouveau with my gtx 1060 6GB, and it works nice but like buZz said there are lacking for video decoding and also I believe 3d acell20:36
tuxd3vit comes by default20:37
tuxd3vOpenGL renderer string: llvmpipe (LLVM 11.0.1, 128 bits)20:39
tuxd3vlspci -k | grep -A 2 -i "VGA"20:42
tuxd3vinteresting enough is that nouveau only sees 4GB of memory on my GTX1060 but that maybe because I am in a i686 machine..20:43
gnarfacefling: seems pretty obvious it's shutting down when any of those things shut down.... the way to preventing that seems apparent to me.... the risks of doing it less so...22:48
gnarfaceif you just remove $network for example, it should no longer bother to consider the network as a prerequisite, so it would continue running even after networking shut down22:49
gnarfacethis may or may not ruin your plans in unexpected ways later22:50
gnarfacefair warning22:50

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