| specing | nemo: wtf, why not minetest?! | 00:05 |
|---|---|---|
| nemo | specing: because we've been running this server for a decade? | 00:42 |
| gnarface | nemo: hypothesizing that the kernel from unstable isn't necessary, i suggest trying to debootstrap ceres into a chroot so you can install openjdk 16 and the minecraft server in there | 02:19 |
| mason | Minetest is a bit buggy. | 03:31 |
| nemo | gnarface: I'm thinking I should just forcibly install the .deb and see what happens ☺ | 04:23 |
| nemo | gnarface: nothing system critical probably requires java | 04:23 |
| nemo | not to mention, I *think* java versions are packaged to install side by side | 04:24 |
| nemo | seems fine so far | 04:27 |
| gnarface | yea it might work, i just avoid that type of behavior because usually it leads to failed release upgrades after i've forgotten doing it | 04:33 |
| nemo | I 'spose. shouldn't be too hard to remove though | 04:34 |
| nemo | thankfully it had no weird dependencies | 04:34 |
| nemo | or at least. the dependencies it had were on standard chimaera stuff | 04:34 |
| nemo | once it makes it to chimaera I'll do it properly | 04:34 |
| mdt | mason: nice writing, does that mean i can replace elogind by seatd? can you suggest that? | 09:12 |
| mdt | (it doesnt conflict with elogind, does it even work alongside with elogind?) as an old-school-unixer i am not an expert on all these new login deamons today :/ | 09:14 |
| Walex | mdt: Not many I think are experts on "all these new login deamons today" because they are wonderfully underdocumented, a bit like the various services under MS-Windows, that is the model that FreeDesktop.org are following. | 11:43 |
| paprika | during boot, using openrc, with no ethernet cable attached, it tries to configure DHCP for about a minute, how do I disable/skip this? | 12:10 |
| lts- | paprika: the answer depends on your dhcp client. Either it might be possible to fork that to the background somehow, or at minimum it will support a timeout variable. Try "grep timeout /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf" for example | 12:18 |
| Walex | paprika: or you can disable the networking service, or you can deconfigure the ethernet interface. | 12:20 |
| Walex | paprika: are you perhaps asking how to *detect* that there is no cable attached and then skip DHCP if there is no cable attached? | 12:20 |
| mason | mdt: I haven't tried it yet but I plan to. I don't run elogind because I don't feel like running systemd on my systems. | 17:40 |
| mason | I like seatd's philosophy. | 17:40 |
| Guest84 | Hi | 18:21 |
| Guest84 | Apt package downloading speed is too slow I tried to change mirror but still very slow like never cross 150kbps | 18:22 |
| onefang | http://veritas.devuan.org/apt-panopticon/results/Report-web.html might be useful, and / or https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/mirror_list.txt to help pick a nearby mirror. | 18:26 |
| Guest84 | ty I will later | 18:31 |
| mdt | mason: yes, their writing sounds great but `apt purge elogind libelogind0 libpam-elogind` removes half of the system - libelogind0 seems to be kind of important. so i wonder how to run a system without elogind | 22:56 |
| fsmithred | mdt, you can run a system without elogind pretty easily if you start with a minimal install and avoid task-*-desktop package. Install stuff manually. | 23:01 |
| fsmithred | avoiding libelogind0 or libsystemd0 is not really possible without doing some extra trickery. | 23:02 |
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