libera/#maemo/ Tuesday, 2018-05-29

jonwilok, that's got Cairo 1.10 sorted (turns out the one local Maemo patch to Cairo 1.8.8 is already in Cairo 1.10 and we can just tell Firefox to use the in-tree Cairo without problems) as well as the right version of libstdc++6 and libgcc1, now lets see how far it gets with the build00:52
jonwilAfter disabling elfhack (some new feature in Firefox that doesn't seem to work on Fremantle) its actually compiling(!)01:05
jonwilI think this beast might actually compile.04:40
jonwilOf course it doesn't appear that I have gotten as far as any of the GTK stuff yet.04:41
brolin_empeyenyc: Printer support is part of the device independence and Graphics Device Interface (GDI) of Windows from the beginning.04:58
brolin_empeyWindows 1 already supports a laser printer because Windows 1 includes a driver for the original HP LaserJet.05:01
brolin_empeyKotCzarny: sicelo: I maxed out my Dell Latitude X1 with 2 GiB of main memory.  What is the maximum amount of main memory for the ThinkPad X40?05:03
brolin_empeyhttp://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:X40 says that the maximum is 1.25 GiB or 1.5 GiB.06:57
brolin_empeyPDF page number 70 of tawbook.pdf says basically the same.07:06
brolin_empeySame page also says that the chipset is Intel 855GME, will try to find specifications for that chipset.07:06
brolin_empeyhttps://ark.intel.com/products/27705/Intel-82855GME-Graphics-and-Memory-Controller says that the maximum is 2 GiB, so I guess installing a 2-GiB SODIMM when the motherboard already has 256 MiB or 512 MiB fixed will not work?  Apparently the ThinkPad X40 uses DDR1 SDRAM but the Latitude X1 uses DDR2 SDRAM.  Does a 2-GiB DDR1 SDRAM SODIMM even exist?  The Latitude X1 unofficially works with a 2-GiB SODIMM, which was not available when the Latitude X1 was07:13
brolin_empeyreleased.07:13
Juesto:)huh07:19
brolin_empeyhttps://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=10393507:20
brolin_empeyApparently a 2-GiB DDR1 SDRAM SODIMM does exist.07:21
Juesto;)07:38
jonwilThe FF24 code is getting closer to a full build, now I am stuck on some gstreamer stuff that I can't seem to figure out.13:25
KotCzarnycan you just disable gstreamer support?13:25
jonwilI don't know what doing that would break13:30
KotCzarnymost likely all audio output, but it's like you are going to use it for youtube on n90013:31
KotCzarnyor do you?13:31
KotCzarnyfunny thing, ff24 was the first one with enabled gstreamer support13:32
KotCzarnyhttps://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=79428213:32
jonwilI suspect very few people care about media playback (audio/video/etc) in microb anyway13:37
KotCzarnyrelated: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88465113:38
KotCzarnyjust enabling gstreamer before ff26 triggered cpu hog bug13:38
jonwilLets turn it off then and worry about any bustage caused by it later13:39
bencohjonwil: native browser playback would be nice (html5 video and such) but I'd suggest disabling it meanwhile as well14:22
jonwilFor now I have just disabled gstreamer and will see what happens and what builds.14:22
bencoh:)14:23
jonwilThe amount of work required to get this building hasn't been anywhere near as much as I thought.14:23
jonwilAlthough building it is the easy part :)14:24
jonwilFiguring out how to make it work without breaking tablet-browser, rtcom-messaging-ui, nokia-maps and the other users of microb-engine is the hard part :)14:27
siceloso i installed modrana again on my N900. how do i get maps offline? :-/17:48
sixwheeledbeastdid you use the latest from github or the repo version?18:21
sicelolatest from gh18:28
sixwheeledbeastdoes it actually work now?18:29
siceloit works, which is actually very nice :)18:29
sicelobut yeah, i can't be connected to Internet all the time18:30
sixwheeledbeasthttps://wiki.maemo.org/ModRana_offline_routing_guide18:34
sixwheeledbeastsame here18:35
sicelodoes that give you maps? or something related to routing, etc.?18:36
sixwheeledbeastna, a map pack downloader was a thing I was asking about, I don't believe it has been implemented.18:39
sixwheeledbeastYou have to use batch downloads menu to download an area.18:40
siceloyeah, i thought so .. which is a bit of an issue when you expect to cover nearly 1000km18:41
sicelohence i still rely on Ovi Maps :/18:41
sixwheeledbeastAlternatively you can use a PC to download the standard tiles and install them, I recall problems with sqlite regarding this but standard tiles will be fine.18:42
sixwheeledbeastMaybe see what M4rtinK says on TMO regarding offline tile downloading, may look into it again.18:44
siceloi will check . have any link?18:44
sixwheeledbeasthttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=5886118:44
sixwheeledbeastThere maybe a copy of SMM10 floating about...18:45
siceloheh, what's SMM10?18:46
siceloah, sygic? i've never used it. where does it get maps from?18:49
sicelosixwheeledbeast: just noticed that modrana from GH doesn't show me what version it is :p19:17
siceloeven when run on pc19:17
sixwheeledbeastsorrywas afk sicelo20:22
sixwheeledbeastunknown version20:22
sixwheeledbeastis normall20:22
sixwheeledbeastSMM has maps with it maybe old now20:23
sixwheeledbeastthink you could update them IIRC20:24
sixwheeledbeastrecall android versions o fmaps used?20:25

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