libera/#maemo/ Monday, 2018-07-02

pirlaHello everyone. Can I use regular debian repository, with maemo?01:32
pirlaKabouik01:36
pirlaHello everyone. Can I use regular debian repository, with maemo?01:36
jonwilNo you can't use a regular debian repository with Maemo01:43
pirlaThanks01:43
pirlaWhat about lxde?01:44
pirlaSmalldebian or something like that01:44
jonwilNope01:47
jonwilIt has to be something built for Maemo01:47
pirlaSorry, i meant easydebian01:48
valeriuspirla however, you can run Debian in chroot (including lxde)01:48
valeriusyes, easydebian is an image with debian chroot installed01:49
valeriusit seems, it was somewhere in maemo repositories01:49
pirlathx01:49
pirlaLast question: i'm going to buy a Nokia n900, what's the latest available update?01:50
pirlaDate and name01:50
jonwilDo you mean software update?01:51
pirlaYes01:51
valeriusthere was CSSU (Communitu update). Not sure about the date. Also, there is Maemo leste project. They're trying to integrate maemo desktop (hildon) on top of Devuan. Devuan is Debian fork without systemd.01:52
valeriusSo, it will be latest Linux kernel with usual Maemo user interface01:53
pirlaWhat's systemd?01:53
jonwilUpdating an N900 in 2018 isn't the easiest thing to do. Maemo Leste isn't usable yet so ignore that for now.01:54
pirlaWhat's systemd?01:54
Maxdamantus~systemd01:54
infobotsystemd cabal: a bunch of people (Lennart Poettering, Kay Sievers, H. Hoyer, D. Mack, T. Gundersen, D. Herrmann) who want to turn linux into their wet dream perverted version of windows-me-too: http://0pointer.net/blog/revisiting-how-we-put-together-linux-systems.html -- Rumor has it that 2016 systemd will have replaced kernel. See ~nosystemd"01:54
Maxdamantus~nosystemd01:54
infobotit has been said that nosystemd is https://devuan.org http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Arguments_against_systemd http://blog.darknedgy.net/technology/2015/10/11/0/01:54
pirlaCool01:54
jonwilOnce you actually have the N900, I am sure people on here can help you update to the latest software version.01:55
pirlaThanks guys, i'm leaving01:55
valeriussystemd is such overbloated version of UNIX init process. 1) Too big for Nokia N900 2) N900 uses its own init, it seems, based on busybox01:55
pirlaHello everyone again. 2 questions:03:03
pirla1 can i only use debian (no maemo)?03:04
pirla2 does debian for maemo include phone/sms?03:04
pirlaTarget device is Nokia n90003:05
pirlaOr by the way, is it there any way to use eg gimp from maemo?03:09
pirlaThe latter would be preferred03:10
pirlaA1?03:14
pirla~gimp03:14
infobotmethinks gimp is the scourge of the kompany, or an excellent image manipulation program.  2.0 is now stable and it has MANY, MANY improvements over the 1.x series.  Pick it up NOW. *_GREAT_*!03:14
pirla~blender03:15
infobotsomebody said blender was Extremely fast and versatile 3D Rendering Package. URL: http://freshmeat.net/projects/blender/03:15
pirlaNevermind, correct me if I'm wrong, but using debian03:20
pirlaSorry mistype03:20
pirlaI mean, installing easydebian should allow regular apps to be launched without the desktop, right?03:21
pirlaNevermind. Found the answer: yes, but a .desktop file has to be written for each app03:33
pirlahttps://wiki.maemo.org/Easy_Debian03:33
pirlaCan't wait to have my n900!03:34

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