libera/#maemo/ Monday, 2018-09-10

WikiwideHow do I set up laptop to connect to my N900's Qt Mobile Hotspot?01:37
WikiwideIs it inet dhcp or inet static?01:37
WikiwideBecause with dhcp, I get "No DHCPOFFERS received".01:37
WikiwideAnd with static, I get "RTNETLINK answers: Cannot assign requested address"01:38
Wikiwide~hotspot04:04
Wikiwide~wifi hotspot04:05
WikiwideWhen I start Qt Mobile Hotspot, I see 192.168.254.1 under wlan0 in ifconfig. However, "ping 192.168.254.1" on Nokia N900 doesn't see it, 100% packet loss.04:35
WikiwideMicroB gives 403, and Fennec is so slow that I don't know yet whether it works or not. And I haven't got laptop to connect to N900 hotspot yet.06:05
WikiwideExcuse me... MicroB, I have asked you repeatedly to get out of full screen. What has got you so busy that you do not respond?06:37
WikiwideJust why did HAM get a brilliant idea to offer "upgrades" for 5 packages from version X to version X?06:55
WikiwideHAM slows everything down. So, closed.06:57
KotCzarnyyou know your poor n900 has only 256M of ram?06:57
KotCzarnyof which usually you have 5-20MB free tops?06:57
KotCzarnywhich means having multiple programs open isnt recommended?06:58
WikiwideOi, only 5-20MB free usually? It must be swapping like mad then.06:58
KotCzarnyyup06:58
KotCzarnyopen terminal and check with iostat -k 106:58
KotCzarnyor just: free06:58
WikiwideBecause el-v1.db is huge here. And tracker has thousands of files to track.06:58
KotCzarnydont use tracker and switch to directory based player?06:59
WikiwideWhy? On the opposite, I want a ebook reader which uses tracker to display a bookshelf with epub/pdf/djvu files.07:00
KotCzarny(i should make my oscv more touch friendly and compile for n900 one day)07:00
KotCzarnyfor now just check with 'top' and shift-m what are biggest memory eaters right now07:01
WikiwideI should also figure out a way for emails to be stored on MyDocs, instead of /home. Or find out a way to cull useless emails from my 3GB GMail.07:01
WikiwideBrowserd for browser, Xorg, browserd for Conversations, browser, modest take up 50% of memory usage altogether.07:03
WikiwideWhere do I find "debian" packages older than wheezy? Backports or something? Glabels, for example?07:04
KotCzarnythere is archive.debian.org or something07:04
WikiwideThank you for shift+m, didn't know that about top :-)07:04
KotCzarnyjust google for: mc lenny07:04
KotCzarnyit should find where old repos are07:05
KotCzarnyyeah, and shift-p for cpu usage07:05
KotCzarny:)07:05
KotCzarnyand on multi-cpu systems pressing '1' will show cpu usage per core07:06
WikiwideArm architecture is not accepted by dpkg, see http://archive.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/glabels/ ; and the versions with armel architecture require libc6 2.6 or 2.7, whereas maemo 5 fremantle has libc6 2.5.07:30
buZzwell07:34
buZzyou could run devuan or debian07:34
buZzjust ignore all the maemo stuff :)07:34
WikiwideRun devuan or debian on Nokia N900?07:35
buZzyes07:35
buZzor postmarketos07:35
buZzi guess i'm preaching blasphemy here ;)07:35
WikiwideAbout as likely as me running Maemo Leste on my N900. It's my everyday device.07:35
buZzah yeah, i dont need phonecalls or a sim for everyday devices07:36
buZzbut i guess that could get hard07:36
buZzpostmarketos might have something for it though07:37
buZzseems none do calls , from https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Devices07:37
buZzbut 2G works :)07:38
WikiwideI like Maemo 5 Fremantle, thank you very much. Just wish it was upgraded - I guess that's what Leste is about.07:38
Wikiwide2G is non-existent in Australia, literally.07:38
buZzhmhm07:38
buZzah sad07:38
buZzyou could perhaps softmodem over a voice line? :)07:38
KotCzarnyWikiwide: you need armel07:40
KotCzarnyand etch/lenny07:42
KotCzarnyotherwise you need to rebuild07:43
KotCzarnywhich might work07:43
WikiwideGlabels depends on dpkg? Sounds like badly managed dependencies.07:56
KotCzarnysafer is to run it from de*an chroot07:57
WikiwideLibebook-1.2-13, version 3.4.3, sounds like a strange approach t9 versioning.08:02
WikiwideLibgdk-pixbuf is not in Maemo repositories.08:02
WikiwideAnd, it's going to be painful: glabels depends on Gtk308:02
KotCzarnywhat about chroot way?08:03
WikiwideOther than that, I would like something more plug-in oriented. Not everybody using glabels needs qrcode.08:03
WikiwideKotCzarny : how does chroot work? Never used it before.08:04
KotCzarnyusing debian chroot means you arent messing the original system08:04
WikiwideThat's good, but... How do I install chroot?08:04
WikiwideHow much space does it require?08:05
KotCzarnyhttps://wiki.maemo.org/Easy_Debian08:05
KotCzarnydont know if it still works08:05
KotCzarnyor if there is something newer08:05
KotCzarnyalso it seems to be for n8x008:05
KotCzarnyhrm08:05
KotCzarnythere was one for fremantle too i think08:05
KotCzarnymaybe it's for both, hmm, later in the text fremantle is also mentioned08:06
KotCzarnyjust read whole page then08:06
WikiwideList of dependencies is insane https://mirrors.tuna.tsinghua.edu.cn/pkgsrc/current/pkgsrc/print/glabels/README.html08:16
KotCzarny:)08:17
KotCzarnythat's what you get for using gnome08:18
brolin_empeyI used Easy Debian on fremantle.  I never used any earlier version of Maemo because I wanted integrated cellular telephony + SMS capability.08:18
WikiwideEasy-deb-chroot?08:19

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