libera/#maemo/ Tuesday, 2018-12-04

bleb16:20 < buZz> bleb: i never heard of SMS being able to do 'groups'03:46
blebbuZz: i believe groups texts are mms03:47
blebor at least they have been for the past decade03:47
buZzoh ok03:48
buZzmaybe they disabled the mms gateways then?03:48
buZzor pushed one of em updates to change those settings, accidently with empty hostname? :P03:49
blebi thought group texts were always sent as mms, so i dont see a need for gateways or a hostname...03:58
buZzafaik mms on 2G works with a actual data connection to a specific gateway04:00
blebbuZz: interesting05:26
blebmaybe i will contact at&t support05:26
KotCzarny{-0-}: if it works on another phone, try cloning the ip settings?07:40
KotCzarnyalso, tcpdump+dhcpclient might be some help07:40
KotCzarnydhcpcd/dhclient/whatever is there07:41
siceloi've never seen a getway on my n900 in all the different networks that i've used it on since 201108:20
siceloif your Internet doesn't work, is it perhaps a matter of 2G vs. 3G?08:21
buZzsicelo: then how do IPs get routed from your local interface?08:50
siceloi don't know, or care :)09:04
siceloi'm on it even now09:04
sicelo~ $ ip r sh09:05
sicelodefault dev gprs0  scope link09:05
KotCzarnyusuall ppp way09:05
KotCzarnysend and hope for the best09:05
KotCzarny;)09:05
bencohindeed (ppp)09:06
bencohas for mms, there is a "gateway", although not the same as in the IP context09:07
siceloi've never used mms since N900 :)09:08
MaxdamantusI imagine a default gateway wouldn't really make sense on a PPP connection.09:12
MaxdamantusIt's not like it's going to go anywhere other than .. where it goes.09:12
siceloyeah, that's why they are /3209:15
KotCzarnymaxd, would be if other part was just a dumb bridge09:15
MaxdamantusI don't have a huge amount of knowledge of how PPP/P-t-P connections tend to work, but my ifconfig shows gprs0 as having a HWADDR of 0-0-0-0-0-... and it says "NOARP"09:16
MaxdamantusThe only thing a default gateway does normally is determine which MAC address is used as the destination of the outgoing frames.09:17
Maxdamantusbut a MAC address should be irrelevant in this case .. I'm guessing it's not even using ethernet frames.09:17
{-0-}This new day brought internet access! Nothing changed this end since last night, not even a reboot. But this morning at work ( in a nearby town ) it was working! Here at home access is intermittent at best ( even though showing full signal strength )22:26
{-0-}when it's working route -n shows only that one 0.0.0.0 gprs0 entry and nothing else, which looks plain wrong to me :D22:27
sicelodon't worry about it. we all have that :-P22:42

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