libera/#maemo/ Saturday, 2019-03-23

zenev0anyone?05:17
zenev0how to go into flash mode when uboot is installed?05:17
MaxdamantusI think holding "u" is meant to do something, but in my experience, you don't need to do anything special on the device. You just have the flasher running on a computer while it boots, connected using USB.05:21
MaxdamantusSince NOLO or something will probe for a flasher on USB before running the kernel/uboot.05:22
zenev0i recently tried to flash maemo-leste05:28
zenev0but it doesnt work05:28
zenev0it ended up in uboot05:43
zenev0cant get into flash mode05:44
zenev0how can i delete uboot05:48
Maxdamantuszenev0: how are you trying to flash it?05:50
zenev0?05:51
Maxdamantuszenev0: you said "i recently tried to flash maemo-leste", "but it doesnt work"05:52
Maxdamantuszenev0: what are you doing that "doesnt work"?05:52
zenev0i followed the official instruction05:54
zenev0but it wont boot05:54
MaxdamantusDo you mean this? https://leste.maemo.org/Nokia_N900#If_you_don.27t_want_to_use.2Finstall_Fremantle.2C_or_want_to_install_quickly05:55
zenev0yep05:56
Maxdamantuszenev0: well, that boots u-boot, so maybe what you're seeing is the intention.05:57
Maxdamantuszenev0: did you set up the SD card beforehand?05:58
zenev0yep06:00
zenev0when i boot from the sd card it goes mmc0 is current device no partition table mmc 006:02
MaxdamantusSounds like the SD card wasn't written to properly.06:02
MaxdamantusHow did you do that part?06:02
zenev0using the official recommended etcher06:03
MaxdamantusDo you at least see multiple partitions when looking at the SD card on a computer (I'm guessing you're using Windows, which has some sort of disk management UI somewhere)06:06
Maxdamantus(I think you can see partitions on Windows by right clicking on "My Computer" and choosing some sort of "manage" option)06:06
zenev0now i just want to flash fremantle06:08
zenev0but uboot somehow stopped the device get into flash mode06:09
zenev0at present i am using an debian live cd06:09
Vajbzenev0: It works like this. Turn off your phone and remove battery. Start flashing like ytou normally would in computer. It will say "no suitable device found". Plug your usb cable to device which has keyboard closed. Plug in battery. Flashing starts immediately.06:20
zenev0nope06:25
zenev0it doent work06:25
zenev0still boot to uboot06:25
Vajbit should not go into uboot if you have keyboard closed.06:30
zenev0i am sure that i closed it06:31
MaxdamantusIt will go into u-boot regardless of the keyboard state. It might avoid showing the menu if it's closed though.06:33
Vajbbut did you open it in some part of the process?06:33
zenev0i am trying again06:33
Vajbkeyboard have to be closed the whole process. There is no need for pressing any keys in device06:34
zenev0still06:44
zenev0it will boot into uboot06:44
zenev0and i am 100% sure that i didnt open the keyboard06:44
KotCzarny~flashing06:45
KotCzarnydarn, bot is missing again06:45
zenev0huh?06:45
KotCzarnyare you sure device is properly connetcted and flashing tool is running BEFORE you put battery in?06:45
KotCzarnyhttps://wiki.maemo.org/User:Kotczarny#.7Eflashing06:46
zenev0when i put the battery in do i need to close the back cover?06:47
KotCzarnyno06:47
KotCzarnybut you need to have usb cable connected and flashing tool already running and waiting for device06:47
KotCzarnyif you are using linux, use script from the link06:47
zenev0so i take out battery when i plug in my phone-run the flasher-put back the battery06:48
zenev0right?06:48
KotCzarnyyes06:50
zenev0i am doing it06:50
KotCzarnywhat os you are running it on?06:51
KotCzarnyare there any messages from the flasher?06:51
zenev0waiting06:51
KotCzarnywhat os?06:51
zenev0debian06:51
KotCzarny64bit?06:51
zenev0i38606:51
zenev0the flasher cant install on 6406:52
KotCzarnytry different usb port?06:52
KotCzarnytry different usb port?06:52
KotCzarnybecause nolo is unkillable, and usb is tricky sometimes06:53
zenev0phone wont boot and the flasher is still waiting06:54
KotCzarnyanother thing is trying different usb cable06:54
KotCzarnynot all of them are made the same06:54
KotCzarnyand n900 is unkillable06:55
KotCzarnyso if it doesnt work at first, mostly it's about setup somewhere06:55
zenev0is there a telegram group?06:56
KotCzarnythis irc channel is better, just might be folks are sleeping still06:58
zenev0oh right06:58
zenev0i forget that06:59
zenev0it still not have any messages07:02
KotCzarnywhat did you try?07:02
zenev0take out battery when i plug in my phone-run the flasher-put back the battery07:04
KotCzarnyok, now try different usb port07:05
zenev0doing it07:06
KotCzarnyand when you run out of port, try different usb cable. also, is battery charged?07:07
KotCzarnyi think device wont go into flasher mode below some level07:07
KotCzarnyif that's the case, it will be more tricky, because to start charging, it needs to run minimal os07:09
KotCzarnyif that's the case, rescueos can be run even with broken kernel/os07:10
KotCzarnyhttps://quitesimple.org/share/n900/rescueOS/rescueOS-1.3/documentation.txt07:10
KotCzarnyit can be used to charge battery07:15
brolin_empeyOr you can use a Nokia BL-5J/BL-4J battery charger or some other computer that uses BL-5J/BL-4J battery to charge the battery instead of using the N900 to charge the battery.07:16
zenev0nope it is not tricky07:16
zenev0yep07:16
zenev0that is the way that i am07:17
zenev0using07:17
brolin_empeyOr even directly power the battery terminals from a mains power supply like I had to do after I broke the USB connector on my first N900 way back in 2010.07:19
zenebthe battery is ok07:39
zenebso i did all this (zenev0) so i take out battery when i plug in my phone-run the flasher-put back the battery again07:40
zenebit just boot to uboot07:40
zeneband i dont open up the keyboard07:40
KotCzarnyif it still loads uboot, then nolo (nokia loader) is ok07:42
KotCzarnyand it's nolo job to put device in flashing mode07:42
zenebok so what should i do now07:42
KotCzarnywhat you might still try, press u, then put battery in07:42
zenebok07:42
KotCzarnyi mean, press and hold u07:43
zenebnow the phone boot to uboot menu07:44
zeneband the flasher says booting device into flash mode07:45
zeneband now it says suitable usb device not found07:45
zenebwaiting07:47
KotCzarnytry different cable07:48
zeneband still no responding07:48
KotCzarnytry different computer07:52
KotCzarnytry different computer07:53
zenev0i changed the order07:53
zenev0now it flashing combined07:53
KotCzarny:)07:53
DocScrutinizer05fixing bot11:50
DocScrutinizer05charge you battery! HEHE. I'd say 90% of "flashing fails for me" is due to weak battery and user swearing the battery is totally fine11:57
DocScrutinizer05pro tip to make sure USB is OK: `tail -f /var/log/syslog`  or the equivalent systemd journalctl command I totally fail to recall. Should show the device enumerating11:59
Maxdamantusor the more universal: cat /dev/kmsg12:00
DocScrutinizer05bot about to resurrect12:01
DocScrutinizer05http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/PC_syslog_of_USB_enum12:01
Maxdamantus(though /dev/kmsg won't give you pretty timestamps)12:01
DocScrutinizer05~lf12:03
infoboti heard #maemo lazyflashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware#The_Lazy_Approach12:03
DocScrutinizer05a pity zenev is not online12:05

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