libera/#maemo/ Saturday, 2019-06-29

DocScrutinizer05xmn gone? A pity. Would be worth investigating options to work around or fix slide sensor10:09
DocScrutinizer05(supl-proxy) can't we run a supl server on maemo.org?10:10
sixwheeledbeastthat was my thought10:11
DocScrutinizer05*maybe* we should use ssh or ssl with individual keys users obtain from maemo suply management orga for a donation of arbitrary amount, valid 1 year. Would avoid any exploitation of the supl server infra as well10:14
DocScrutinizer05s/suply/SUPL/10:14
infobotDocScrutinizer05 meant: *maybe* we should use ssh or ssl with individual keys users obtain from maemo SUPL management orga for a donation of arbitrary amount, valid 1 year. Would avoid any exploitation of the supl server infra as well10:14
DocScrutinizer05to test, I'd offer free test certs/keys that expire after 3 days10:16
sixwheeledbeasti believe the proxy will only work with the modified certs so unlikely people will use it for anything other than maemo.10:16
DocScrutinizer05and also get void when overused, by sth like fail2ban with a threshold of 100 connections / hour10:17
DocScrutinizer05sixwheeledbeast: I'm talking right outa my rear, but maybe some ideas in there worth getting refinement10:17
DocScrutinizer05oooh, now I get it, SUPL already _has_ cert protection, right?10:19
DocScrutinizer05which I guess was one of the major sources of any troubles with SUPL during the last 10 years10:20
DocScrutinizer05re xmn's "broken" device: I wonder what the heck actually broke. And I also wonder how much real trouble user would experience from a kbd slide that's considered always open. Better than always closed anyways10:22
MaxdamantusWhy would it need modified certs?10:22
MaxdamantusWasn't the issue just that Google started rejecting old TLS clients?10:23
DocScrutinizer05could the magnet have latched up between display slide and main PCB / hallswitch and have damaged the latter? if so then in which way? just a few pins torn off the PCB?10:24
sixwheeledbeastit was hosted at nokia, google one didn't work they rejected requests IIRC10:24
DocScrutinizer05or does the magnet stick right on top of the hall chip and nobody noticed?10:24
MaxdamantusOh.10:24
DocScrutinizer05thetre was a time google SUPL worked with N90010:25
DocScrutinizer05and there was a point in time when it stopped to work10:25
sixwheeledbeasti say was i believe nokia still works if you fix yo TLS hence proxy10:33
DocScrutinizer05sorry, didn't parse11:07
DocScrutinizer05;-)11:07
sixwheeledbeasts/\<was\>/& ,/13:31
sicelobencoh: yes supl-proxy works fine, and i agree it is a good solution. the slight problem we have is that - if the gps fails to lock (this does happen even after getting valid supl response), then even re-running the proxy doesn't help, as no further supl requests are made by the device.14:45
sicelowhat i tried at some point is to stop and restart location-proxy, but i couldn't get something conclusive.14:45
sicelohowever it seems that a new supl request does get emitted if the cellid or some such changes.14:46
siceloi'll do a brief writeup on wiki so others can also test.14:47

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