libera/#maemo/ Tuesday, 2019-08-27

brolin_empeyKotCzarny: I gather that opipc = Orange Pi PC, which is apparently detailed at http://www.orangepi.org/orangepipc/ , which looks outdated compared to the Raspberry Pi Model B or B+ version 3 or 4.08:19
brolin_empeyNote that I do not use *Pi.  I like tiny x86 computers that can be powered from only 5 VDC.08:25
brolin_empeyWhich reminds me: I wonder if I can find a PC/104 (not literally.  I mean the newer versions that use PCI or PCI Express.) tiny, fanless x86 computer to replace the fanful Core 2 tower computer in my bedroom.  The Asus UL30Vt Core 2 ULV notebook computer still seems to work well as a replacement for my Athlon Thunderbird 1400 tower computer in my bedroom.  Yes, the UL30Vt has a fan but I cannot hear it so I do not know if it ever runs and I did not have to08:34
brolin_empeypay for the UL30Vt because my father gave it to me because he no longer needs it.08:34
sixwheeledbeastChinese Rpi clone?09:55
brolin_empeysixwheeledbeast: Apparently the Orange Pi is Chinese but I do not know if it is considered a clone of the Raspberry Pi.12:30
* enyc meows12:44
enycIf I'm trying to rewire (again) usb sockets onto n900's (upside-down soldered on board etc.) might i mbe better getting usb-C or something other than usb-micro  anyhow?12:49
enycI still want the usb-host-support possibilty but only the 4 wire connection otherwise... ??12:49
enycor isthat 5th-wire to activate host mode critical?12:50
KotCzarnywithout 5th wire you have to toggle host/device mode manually12:50
enyccome to think of it i don't think thats' eevn connecte on my n900 where the usb has been replaced anyhow12:50
enychoppy with manual toggle but don't know in terms of phsyicaliity of connector and think wires to the pins etc etc12:51
enyclooks like a potential pain to solder however12:53
Vajbdid anyone order decent tablet computer from aliexpress?13:06
KotCzarnydefine 'decent'13:06
Vajbdecent = packs enough punch for years to come13:07
brolin_empeyKotCzarny: I thought USB Host/Device mode has to be manually toggled on the N900 even with the original microUSB connector.  Or am I thinking of manually selecting the speed for USB Host mode?13:08
enycVajb: I use x201-tablet ;p13:12
enycconvertible thing, but i like it13:12
Vajbenyc: I thought of something smaller :p14:51
Vajbcurrently I have galaxy tab 2, but it has become nearly unusable because of low processing power14:52
Vajbit has only two cores and lass than 1gb of ram. So thinking of replacing it with some Octacore thing with loads of ram14:54
Vajblass = less*14:54
KotCzarnydont think about less than 3GB of ram14:55
KotCzarnyespecially with android7/8/914:55
Vajbthat's what I thought15:04
KotCzarnyyou could get away with 1-2gb if you are careful about what you install and trim bloatware15:10
KotCzarnybut since you are looking for something a bit future proof..15:10
sicelodroid 4 with LineageOS 14 (Android 7) is definitely usable with the 1GB .. but of course, not future proof15:14
KotCzarnysicelo, start installing things..15:14
KotCzarny;)15:14
KotCzarnyunless of course you only want bare system without anything15:14
VajbI have one app that could use more power and that's the reason why Im considering new tablet15:14
KotCzarnywhen choosing media device, it would be worth considering supported media formats too15:15
siceloi've installed lots of stuff (telegram, WA, slack, word, excel, connectbot, etc.) :)15:15
Vajband before you say "use another app", I say not possible ;)15:15
Vajbany good sites to compare tablets?15:16
sicelogsmarena maybe? has a compare thingy15:16
Vajbgonna check it out thx15:18
KotCzarnyvajb: https://www.cnx-software.com/2019/08/27/fairphone-3-socially-responsible-android-smartphone-user-repairable/16:27
KotCzarny:)16:27
bencohaaand still qualcomm16:28
bencoh"fair" and qualcomm still sounds like a silly joke to me :)16:28
KotCzarnybencoh: you would prefer mediatek?16:28
KotCzarny:)16:28
KotCzarnybut their 'fair' is about e-waste16:29
KotCzarnynot blobs16:29
bencohKotCzarny: not that they're much better, but I guess, yeah, somehow16:30
KotCzarnyseriously, the only deblobbed soc right now is allwinner16:30
bencohyou forgot imx (sort of)16:30
bencohI don't recall running any blob on imx7 apart from the ROM16:31
KotCzarnycant say about imx, as i dont have any board16:31
KotCzarnybut can it build and run uboot/kernel without any blobs?16:31
bencohyeah16:31
KotCzarny3d gpu/video decoder/encoder too?16:32
bencohto be fair I think the SDMA loads some kind of micro-firmware, but I'm not even so sure16:32
bencohimx7 has no vpu/gpu :)16:32
KotCzarnyi've only heard about .6 and .816:32
KotCzarny:)16:32
bencohimx7 is loosely based on imx6, but low-power16:33
Vajbby investigating a bit I see that I actually need smart phone, not a tablet...16:34
bencoh(with less features / blocks, a more modular clock tree, and a cortex-a7 instead of A9)16:34
KotCzarnyim planning to grab pinephone this fall. although its a pity it doesnt have dual sim16:38
brolin_empeyMy company has its own ARM Linux platform based upon the i.MX 283.  http://medallionsystem.com/cpu-modules/tscm/index.html but this Web site is outdated, mostly unchanged since 2012.16:44
brolin_empeyThat Fairphone 3 looks quite underwhelming for 450 EUR compared to a used or refurbished LG G5 for around 100 CAD.  That article does not say which type of flat-panel display the Fairphone 3 has so I guess it is only an AMLCD, not an LED display?17:07
brolin_empey30 EUR for a replacement battery?  A new battery for the LG G5 costs only around 10 CAD including shipping on eBay.17:13
xmnare ebay batteries reliable? I have found it hard for the n900.17:27
xmnhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-K1SJNeXVIs17:27
xmnAnd I agree that the price is not ideal. But your not buying this for it's specs necessarily, your more likely buying it because of you want to buy less stuff or be able to repair stuff.17:29
brolin_empeyxmn: Batteries from eBay usually work well for me but I have not used a non-Nokia battery in a Nokia computer.17:56
xmnI see. I just found it hard to find good reliable battery makers. they for me never seem to have as long of a lifespan.17:58
bencohthe first (and last) "nokia" batteries I bought from ebay didn't charge over 800mAh (that was 5y ago)18:03
bencohI then move to polarcell18:03
bencohmoved*18:03
bencohbut your milleage may vary I guess18:03
bencohmileage* gah18:04
xmnthat my experience;)18:04
Vajbwell, I bought my Polarcell batteries from ebay :)20:10
xmnoh interesting, https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2019/08/27/new-huawei-os-shock-confirmation-of-russian-software-for-mobile-devices/#544f6ea979c820:57

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