| Maxdaman1us | Hmm .. got another cmt-speech failure. This time I was able to hear the person on the other end but they couldn't hear me (rebooted to fix it) | 05:00 |
|---|---|---|
| sicelo | :-/ | 05:01 |
| Maxdaman1us | The syslog errors were different though. | 05:02 |
| Maxdaman1us | Dec 8 16:06:54 orcus user.err pulseaudio[875]: voice-cmtspeech.c: cmtspeech_dl_buffer_release(0x385f8) failed return value -32. | 05:03 |
| Maxdaman1us | (when I had cmt-speech errors one time about half a year ago, I wasn't able to hear, not sure about the other end) | 05:04 |
| Maxdaman1us | (also, that last time the issue persisted across multiple phone calls I made, but today I just rebooted when the person I called said they couldn't hear me) | 05:05 |
| sicelo | I wonder if it's hw or sw | 05:15 |
| CatButts | I vaguely remember having Faster Application Manager before, but somebody telling me something negative about it, and me uninstalling it as a result | 10:47 |
| CatButts | I am trying to remember what that caution was | 10:48 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ~hamvsfam | 10:49 |
| infobot | methinks hamvsfam is https://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2013-10-28.log.html#t2013-10-28T10:44:33, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93227 | 10:49 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ~speedham | 10:49 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ~speedyham | 10:49 |
| infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, speedyham is 30 times faster than HAM https://github.com/community-ssu/hildon-application-manager, now included in ~CSSU replacing the original Hildon application Manager there | 10:49 |
| CatButts | ah, now it makes sense | 10:54 |
| CatButts | shame, because I was liking fapman's interface | 10:54 |
| KotCzarny | well | 10:54 |
| KotCzarny | if you use apt-get install you might as well go with fapman | 10:55 |
| CatButts | ~overclocking | 10:56 |
| infobot | "OK, listen up. This is your CPU." apt drops the CPU into a hot frying pan. "This is your CPU on overclocking. Any questions?" | 10:56 |
| sixwheeledbeast | i short maemo wasn't really intended to use apt directly and FAM is a wrapper for apt. | 10:57 |
| CatButts | ~smartreflex | 10:58 |
| CatButts | it's nice having the N900 at 1050Mhz, but I wonder for how long | 11:05 |
| CatButts | *1150Mhz | 11:07 |
| bencoh | I honestly wouldn't do that nowadays | 11:08 |
| bencoh | especially considering that you could just buy a droid4 if you want a more powerful device | 11:08 |
| CatButts | or stop trying to use Sunvox :p | 11:09 |
| bencoh | I was wondering whether it was opensource, but looks like it eventually moved to close-source | 11:10 |
| CatButts | Sunvox is too hot for the device | 11:26 |
| clort | one does not just buy *a* droid4 | 11:35 |
| clort | one begins a collection! :) | 11:36 |
| CatButts | https://droid4x.cc/ this site does not inspire me confidence | 11:37 |
| CatButts | unrelated | 11:38 |
| buZz | lol 'droid 4 X' | 11:41 |
| buZz | doesnt support X | 11:41 |
| buZz | :D | 11:41 |
| * sicelo should experiment with overclocking N900 on mainline | 11:43 | |
| sicelo | but not very high :-) | 11:44 |
| KotCzarny | ka-b00m..pshhhh | 11:44 |
| CatButts | http://cat.butt.care:3434/droid4x_phone_home.png | 11:44 |
| bencoh | sicelo: :( | 12:05 |
| bencoh | I thought you kinda liked your n900 :> | 12:06 |
| sicelo | i do :-) | 12:06 |
| sicelo | well, it's just to test and see what's possible, not to run it like that all the time | 12:07 |
| sicelo | mayne i could do it on the device with broken modem and faulty touchscreen | 12:07 |
| bencoh | that being said, I think freemangordon's device runs overclocked most of the time | 12:07 |
| bencoh | so ... it might be safe at some reasonable freqs | 12:08 |
| bencoh | dunno about mainline though :) | 12:08 |
| sixwheeledbeast | It was popular to run KP ideal profile which was 700-800ish IIRC? | 12:09 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I actually used KP to get 125Mhz | 12:10 |
| sixwheeledbeast | It was removed to help battery but i found the opposite at the time, listening to music on headphones all day back then. | 12:11 |
| CatButts | underclocking might be useful for testing and performance tuning applications | 12:11 |
| clort | omap3 was quite overclockeable | 12:14 |
| KotCzarny | if you dont mind shorter battery life | 12:15 |
| clort | i don't recall what KP's governor did | 12:15 |
| clort | but the power consumption for different workloads, such as webbrowsing is complex | 12:16 |
| clort | we all know this i guess. phone cpus 'burst' now | 12:17 |
| bencoh | it's not that complex in the end, most eventually reached the conclusion that it's better to clock the cpu at max clock when working, to rush to idle | 12:18 |
| sicelo | even fremantle did. during a phone call, iirc freq was always locked to 600MHz | 12:18 |
| bencoh | unless your platform has broken idle support and/or entering/exiting from idle takes too much time | 12:19 |
| sixwheeledbeast | the phone application forced it | 12:29 |
| sixwheeledbeast | phone application does a lot of weird things like that, they seem like an after thought | 12:29 |
| sixwheeledbeast | race to idle was the future, but maemo OS works different in that regard you can have multiple things open and working. | 12:31 |
| KotCzarny | well, during phone call you are already draining quite a lot of power | 12:31 |
| KotCzarny | and unless you are on loudspeaker you arent browsing or anything | 12:32 |
| clort | no manufacturer did the obvious thing of offering phones with differing thickness back cases for different sized batteries | 12:32 |
| clort | or a spare little battery to enable swap without shutdown | 12:33 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I don't have an issue with it must be for a reason but it seems like an after thought because of the way it just brute forces everything. | 12:34 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Lithium power pack became a thing and are universal | 12:34 |
| clort | yeah but still not "good". power pads on the back for stick-on supplemental power would have been doable too | 12:36 |
| clort | can be done with droid4 though, with carefully modified back cover | 12:36 |
| clort | two of the pogo pins accept +5v | 12:37 |
| clort | so one could manufacture a powerbank cover for d4 | 12:37 |
| sixwheeledbeast | we are talking 2009 release so designed before then. | 12:37 |
| sicelo | sixwheeledbeast: the phone, you mean? i thought the frequency lock was needed since call audio is handled via cpu on n900 | 12:38 |
| clort | 13 | 12:38 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I believe the modem needed the CPU power yer | 12:38 |
| sixwheeledbeast | More things like prox sensors etc, phone app has root access to do whatever | 12:39 |
| sixwheeledbeast | You can try to disable this things make them 444 but phone application will overwrite whatever it wants. | 12:40 |
| sixwheeledbeast | well whatever it "needs" i suppose | 12:40 |
| sixwheeledbeast | does leste have working phone and sms yet? | 12:42 |
| bencoh | iirc it still misses UI integration | 12:50 |
| bencoh | more than UI tbh | 12:51 |
| CatButts | ~softfloat | 15:32 |
| CatButts | ~hardfloat | 15:32 |
| CatButts | meh | 15:32 |
| KotCzarny | ~weallfloathere | 15:32 |
| CatButts | Maemo 5 uses softfloat, yes? On softfloat OS, hardfloat cannot be used? | 15:33 |
| Wizzup | n900 supports hf just fine | 16:08 |
| Wizzup | not sure about fremantle | 16:08 |
| freemangordon | fremantle does not | 16:09 |
| freemangordon | bencoh: it has been running on 800MHz for ~10 years. TS started acting so I exchanged it couple of months ago with my backup device | 16:10 |
| clort | i've had two n900s stolen | 17:06 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I'd be surprised if anyone knew what it was | 17:07 |
| clort | they did | 17:08 |
| KotCzarny | lol | 17:08 |
| KotCzarny | how long time ago it was? | 17:08 |
| clort | around 2012 the first one | 17:09 |
| Wizzup | KotCzarny: I've had some people in the weirdest places walk up to me and say "hey, that's the old nokia phone" about my droid 4 running leste | 17:09 |
| Wizzup | in fact that happened just last month in some mall | 17:09 |
| clort | malls still exist? | 17:11 |
| clort | a shopping mall? | 17:11 |
| sicelo | :-/ | 17:13 |
| bencoh | Wizzup: did you tell them about leste then? :) | 17:17 |
| sixwheeledbeast | what ... there's other commercial building beyond the ones I can see from my window? | 17:31 |
| buZz | lol | 17:32 |
| sixwheeledbeast | who knew outside existed this year | 17:32 |
| Wizzup | bencoh: yeah | 17:34 |
| clort | 404 | 17:44 |
| CatButts | is the GCC used in Maemo SDK in anyway customized, or is it standard? | 18:57 |
| CatButts | I am contemplating commiting manual header+lib transplant | 18:58 |
| CatButts | onto a newer ARM crosscompiler | 18:58 |
| CatButts | GCC | 18:58 |
| KotCzarny | there are newer gccs on tmo | 19:08 |
| KotCzarny | search and install | 19:08 |
| CatButts | ~tmo | 19:11 |
| infobot | i guess tmo is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TMO, or http://talk.maemo.org, or http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrestrial_Trunked_Radio#TMO. It's *not* T-MO (see ~T-MO) or trolls, morons, oxen. | 19:11 |
| CatButts | acronyms hate me | 19:12 |
| KotCzarny | talk.maemo.org | 19:12 |
| buZz | ~t-mo | 19:35 |
| infobot | from memory, t-mo is T-Mobile | 19:35 |
| buZz | lol | 19:35 |
| * CatButts coats his n900 in vegemite and overclocks it | 22:39 | |
| sixwheeledbeast | some clever thermal properties of vegemite? | 22:42 |
| CatButts | no, I'm hungry | 22:51 |
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