| sn0wmonster | enyc, was there news to articulate? | 18:21 |
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| enyc | sn0wmonster: good question, houkime taking over some parts and succeeeding with placemnt? are there particular roles we want to shout-out for help on, .... ?? | 20:16 |
| houkime | the thing is it is hard to tell if it is a real success unless the whole thing is done( | 20:18 |
| houkime | I would like to have some collaborative layout efforts and discussion but there are two problems. | 20:21 |
| houkime | the first one s a closed-source model for layout that is now temporarily enabled by joerg. | 20:22 |
| houkime | the second one is the fact that kicad can't really fully befriend git as it is now. | 20:22 |
| houkime | thus problems with merging branges are REAL. | 20:23 |
| houkime | *branches | 20:23 |
| enyc | i'm thiknig (a) risk-managment you want bugs-shallow, no disaster in proto board (b) making prokect believable complet-able. | 20:23 |
| houkime | and the third one is the fact that right now it is all on an internal git server which is not really a comfortable place (unlike github for example) to coordinate and manage stuff. | 20:25 |
| houkime | about other jobs - the whole project (except for NextStep) is now basically depending only on a prototypes being made, so besides layouting there is not really much to do. | 20:29 |
| enyc | houkime: do yu have any idea how far through layouting you are ? | 20:34 |
| houkime | It is said that a correct layout is 90% placement and 10% routing. Right now I would say I'm at 40%-ish of placement (as far as it is applicable to puzzle-solving where your mistake can linger for a long time before ruining everything). | 20:38 |
| houkime | that BoB took a long time | 20:38 |
| houkime | because there was a mistake in initial design documents | 20:39 |
| houkime | that overlooked the fact that connectors on Bob collide with USB on LOWER. | 20:39 |
| houkime | which made the initial considerations on layout basically trash | 20:40 |
| enyc | nodsnods! | 20:41 |
| houkime | and i was learning stuff for a month or so to find a way out of this | 20:41 |
| houkime | and I'm still unsure about it tbh | 20:42 |
| houkime | but at least it is sth. | 20:42 |
| houkime | Luckily metacollin has already made some subsystems assembly so basic bricks are more or less there. | 20:44 |
| houkime | but they need to be rearranged because situation changed | 20:44 |
| houkime | (he overlooked that conflict as well and a few other things) | 20:45 |
| houkime | so now I'm looking into how the hell to fit everything and for board not to be noisy as hell. | 20:47 |
| houkime | joerg and team weren't minimalistic in schematic design to say the least.) | 20:51 |
| houkime | Tons of features, tons of them. | 20:51 |
| houkime | have you ever used your headset plug as a video IO? It looks like you will now have this ability. | 20:53 |
| enyc | as old composite-video? | 20:53 |
| enyc | the n900 has video-out type option somehow | 20:55 |
| houkime | IDK who uses that tbh. | 20:55 |
| xmn | yup, n900 has video via the headphone jack, use it the other day for testing | 20:56 |
| enyc | xmn: i wonder if that works booting maemo-leste alpha images | 20:56 |
| xmn | if you have the cable it should be an easy test | 20:57 |
| xmn | I'm not brave enough to test the leste alpha | 20:57 |
| sixwheeledbeast | i use it a fair bit. better than carrying a projector around | 21:24 |
| ravelo | hi | 21:24 |
| ravelo | houkime: regarding tons of features | 21:29 |
| ravelo | It might be reasonable to remove features | 21:30 |
| ravelo | That are not widely used | 21:30 |
| ravelo | I'd propose a more pragmatisch approach | 21:30 |
| ravelo | *pragmatic | 21:32 |
| ravelo | Maybe Joerg could decide in this direction | 21:33 |
| houkime | maybe if tests fail/layout fails he will consider this. Now very unlikely. | 21:42 |
| houkime | If you want sth pragmatic I believe there were guys on Hackaday that were planning sth. | 21:43 |
| ravelo | Hm ok | 21:45 |
| houkime | Well, at least I remember there was one such guy. Probably not doing progress though. | 21:45 |
| houkime | oh, and there also are projects on other GTA-family devices. | 21:46 |
| houkime | the idea of Neo900 prabably was to have multiple boards to accomodate tons of hacker stuff/security so that's how it is different. | 21:48 |
| houkime | in Goldelico there are tests on a single-board GTA04, and it is pretty straightforward | 21:49 |
| houkime | *tests now going on | 21:50 |
| ravelo | Ok | 22:01 |
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