| houkime | the situation with Google Fuchsia is a bit worrying. | 17:05 |
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| houkime | capability-based microkernel basis seems at least theoretically superior to the monolithic linux design | 17:06 |
| houkime | and the concept has been there for a looong time, just very neglected. | 17:07 |
| houkime | and now google buys its way into future by adopting a neglected concept | 17:08 |
| houkime | and is quite likely to succeed because it has the resources to develop it | 17:09 |
| houkime | and hereby we will obtain another foss kernel which is probable to overperform linux, but not community-lead. | 17:09 |
| bencoh | indeed | 17:11 |
| houkime | It is a bad situation because it will be prone to electron/chromium-like controversial behavior (there was a story when a foss google electron was fetching a binary blob and enabling a mic) | 17:14 |
| houkime | The open source by itself is not enough for security, and community will have a trouble catching up its devspeed to provide a community-based alternative. | 17:16 |
| houkime | even if you fork fuchsia to secure it, google will still develop it faster | 17:18 |
| houkime | the only reasonable community reaction i can imagine is to build more comfortable microkernel development toolchain | 17:29 |
| houkime | so that developing crazy kernels becomes easy as pie | 17:30 |
| houkime | then community will have a possibility to quickly generate and test new concepts | 17:31 |
| houkime | and one of the experiments will be more promising than a google kernel | 17:32 |
| houkime | Among megacorps Google is really the largest world threat nowadays I think. Apple is self-enclosed, Microsoft is still invasive but became quite weak, facebook is also enclosed more or less. But google, google is everywhere and still pushing. | 18:06 |
| sicelo | houkime: nice video! tyvm | 22:54 |
| houkime | not really to the level though. My narration and video planning are still low. | 22:55 |
| houkime | thx | 22:55 |
| houkime | Want to ease the entry barrier as much as possible. | 22:56 |
| houkime | probably there will be a full-blown contribution guide | 22:56 |
| sicelo | it's a good start :) | 22:58 |
| houkime | on the layout side esds are currently killing me and i need to overhaul them somehow | 22:59 |
| houkime | joerg says that one can just leave generic fps there but the thing is they don't fit | 23:00 |
| houkime | This is the second time i have esd troubles | 23:01 |
| houkime | although last time it was just placement without part overhauls | 23:01 |
| houkime | updated issues and planning repos to include this videolink. | 23:29 |
| houkime | also clarified goals for contribution streamlining in Planning | 23:30 |
| houkime | basically neo900 should be so easy to contribute to that it can be used as an edu project for novice mobile devs. | 23:31 |
| houkime | I'm really a bit sick of barriers everywhere. | 23:32 |
| houkime | barriers make people think they can't do something even if they in fact can | 23:34 |
| houkime | to give you an outline of my noobness - before i started to poke neo900 i barely used pcb eda once. | 23:37 |
| sicelo | but, have you ever produced a pcb? | 23:39 |
| houkime | nope. neo900 is really in THAT much trouble now | 23:40 |
| houkime | that even me with my pure physics education is better than nothing | 23:40 |
| sicelo | interesting then :) | 23:41 |
| houkime | I try to be scientific and rigorous and apply theory and internet wherever can but that's it | 23:41 |
| houkime | I will probably include some list of most useful internet resources also then | 23:47 |
| houkime | I think that it's the time when community should save the day even if it is barely competent. Otherwise there's just not enough devpower. | 23:48 |
| houkime | tbh neo900 is already quite a kerbal device by concept. | 23:50 |
| houkime | davethewave tried to join from outside and probably drowned in data so i think it is a signal for entry to be eased. | 23:53 |
| houkime | if even when people want to join it is too hard sth needs to be done | 23:54 |
| houkime | neo900 is intended to be understandable even for end users by design, not to say potential devs | 23:57 |
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