pigeons | You should have just gone full liar. https://ewwlo.xyz/evil | 17:37 |
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bencoh | :/ | 17:42 |
Joerg-Neo900 | the purpose of Neo900 project never been to make money but to create a hardware we all may love to use | 17:49 |
Joerg-Neo900 | I'm sure literally everybody in here could come up with 2 or 3 smarter rogue plots how to make money in shady ways | 17:50 |
sleepingkirby | Joerg-Neo900: Well, if it means anything, I never thought you were trying to scam people. I was really excited to hear that someone really wanted to make a better N900. Heck, I still use mine. And, quite frankly, I'm still hoping that something happens and progress resumes. | 19:20 |
Joerg-Neo900 | I think one or another company not related toNokia or N900 or Neo900 will eventually come up with a device. It's just too obvious something like this is needed | 19:22 |
sleepingkirby | Joerg-Neo900: Honestly, I'm not counting on it. It's obvious that it's needed, but so is net neutrality in the US, 3rd repair shops for Apple products, games without microtransactions. | 19:24 |
sleepingkirby | Joerg-Neo900: But either way, I appreciate the effort you put forth. | 19:25 |
Joerg-Neo900 | thanks | 19:25 |
Joerg-Neo900 | maybe keep an eye on https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/cosmo-communicator#/ | 19:27 |
sleepingkirby | The closest thing is the librem-5, but it's got half the features (no IR or compass or light sensor) and definitely no keyboard | 19:27 |
Joerg-Neo900 | librem5 never been considered a particularly innovative concept | 19:28 |
sleepingkirby | nope. | 19:28 |
Joerg-Neo900 | seems their only focus is on "Free hardware" and even there it seems they don't deliver | 19:29 |
sleepingkirby | well, their main focus is it doesn't track people. Never tried pureOS myself so I don't know. | 19:30 |
Joerg-Neo900 | I can assure you they fail completely on _that_ aspect | 19:30 |
sleepingkirby | yeah, the cosmo looks nice. | 19:31 |
Joerg-Neo900 | seems they even have a very naive idea about how tracking works nowadays | 19:31 |
sleepingkirby | What's wrong with PureOS? | 19:31 |
slobber | i just got a one mix 2s, it's not entirely the form factor neo900 strives for, but pretty good | 19:32 |
slobber | it's also not a fone | 19:32 |
sleepingkirby | yeah, it's huge. | 19:32 |
sleepingkirby | and at least it can run debian. Well, I'd like to run devuan, but it's better than android | 19:33 |
Joerg-Neo900 | I even fail to understand what's Purism's definition of "tracking" | 19:33 |
slobber | i'm running banto on it | 19:33 |
slobber | *ubuntu | 19:33 |
slobber | i do have the librem 5 preordered, we'll see if it comes to any fruition | 19:34 |
slobber | i think they're mainly working on preventing hardware-based tracking: via microphone, webcam, etc | 19:34 |
slobber | one part of that is the hardware switches, another is open firmware, third is not running android/ios | 19:35 |
slobber | iuno | 19:35 |
Joerg-Neo900 | that's eavesdropping, not tracking | 19:35 |
slobber | yes | 19:35 |
Joerg-Neo900 | but yeah,obviously a switch disables a hw component, *as long as it's in off position* | 19:36 |
sleepingkirby | I do find it weird it says "one, even 2 days of battery life!" Given that my n900 can go like 3~4 days without charging | 19:36 |
slobber | what do n900s run these days | 19:36 |
slobber | maemo? | 19:36 |
Joerg-Neo900 | I consider this a layman's approach to security | 19:37 |
xmn | hte cosmo is nice, but for me the fx pro1, seems to be closer to n900 and usable form. https://www.fxtec.com | 19:37 |
slobber | i've been out of the loop a long time | 19:37 |
sleepingkirby | yeah, maemo | 19:37 |
xmn | it might run maemo-leste too eventually | 19:37 |
slobber | i had n810 long ago, last i tried using it before selling it all repos were down and it was pretty unusable | 19:37 |
Joerg-Neo900 | yeah, you need mirrors of the repos | 19:38 |
slobber | well, not surprising that a phone running a full debian fork not hugely optimized for mobile doesn't get more than a couple days of buttery | 19:38 |
Joerg-Neo900 | luckily there are a few still | 19:38 |
sleepingkirby | The mirrors still work for me last time I checked. | 19:38 |
slobber | pureos is what they ship with their laptops too, i tihnk it's largely unchanged on librem 5 to allow for full-desktop kind of usage | 19:39 |
slobber | ah, well, i sold it so it doesn't matter any more | 19:39 |
slobber | glad that stuff is still up for you guys though | 19:39 |
* Joerg-Neo900 got like 6 of them N810, for *cheap* | 19:39 | |
Joerg-Neo900 | :-D | 19:39 |
Joerg-Neo900 | like new | 19:39 |
slobber | i was looking for a long time for a mobile device i can do actual work on | 19:40 |
slobber | the one mix 2s has been pretty good for that | 19:40 |
Joerg-Neo900 | hardly you can get a cheaper all-in palmtop embedded system running a plain linux | 19:40 |
Joerg-Neo900 | just the N810 camera is crap | 19:41 |
slobber | who needs a camera on a work pooter | 19:41 |
Joerg-Neo900 | and the GPS is pretty much not really working either | 19:41 |
slobber | yeah that was my impression of the gps as well | 19:41 |
Joerg-Neo900 | sorry, I'm afk | 19:42 |
slobber | cheers | 19:42 |
Joerg-Neo900 | o/ | 19:42 |
sleepingkirby | These are good alternatives. Thanks guys. I'll keep an eye out. | 19:44 |
pigeons | i didnt mean to imply any malicious intentions to neo900, just saw that link and figured even if a little offtopic i'd point it out | 19:50 |
Joerg-Neo900 | >>first rule of bash: every rule has exceptions<< except this very rule | 20:25 |
Joerg-Neo900 | pigeons: :-) | 20:26 |
Joerg-Neo900 | maybe I should focus on evaluation of smartphones for my next few years of professional activities? | 20:44 |
* Joerg-Neo900 just reads https://www.techwalls.com/qualcomm-snapdragon-845-smartphones/ and https://www.techwalls.com/qualcomm-snapdragon-835-smartphones/ | 20:45 | |
Joerg-Neo900 | look at this mess, regarding LTE bands: https://www.techwalls.com/samsung-galaxy-note-9-sm-n960-model-number-differences/ | 21:02 |
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