| DocScrutinizer05 | sorry I have to shut down and decommission the neo900.org server | 17:13 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | can't afford it any longer | 17:15 |
| enyc | DocScrutinizer05: web.archive.org back it all up for you? | 17:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I hope so | 17:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'm still polling interested parties if they want to migrate git to a location of their choice | 17:18 |
| enyc | DocScrutinizer05: web.archive.org has a button to archive page now on request | 17:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | maybe one of them wants to migrate the regular web content as well | 17:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | enyc: feel welcome to initiate that. Holler if you need any support from server side | 17:25 |
| bencoh | DocScrutinizer05: if you have a list of git / stuff to archive, I might be able to keep a copy of (at least part of) the stuff | 17:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | bencoh: well, git has a web frontend. I'm not up to date on usage and content | 17:41 |
| bencoh | as for the website itself, hosting a static version of it wouldn't hurt me, assuming you want to | 17:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I summoned dos1 :-) let's see what he thinks | 17:42 |
| bencoh | alright | 17:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | werner already about to take care about "his" git repos | 17:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | just chatting with him | 17:43 |
| bencoh | (I won't host a dynamic version though, because this means running server-side code) | 17:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | there's basically no server side code and dynamic content, except shop (obsolete and defunct anyway), the "blog" (also dysfunctional) and the git repos | 17:44 |
| bencoh | the main site is part of the blog? | 17:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the blog is part of the main page :-D | 17:45 |
| bencoh | ah, the ublog | 17:46 |
| bencoh | alright, that means everything can be archived as static html pages/images | 17:46 |
| bencoh | the relevant part at least | 17:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | then otoh the *whiole* website is git based which was the point where I lost track of how to implement changes | 17:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | for an archive that is obsolete too | 17:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I gotta worry about stuff like email, internal backup etc pp | 17:49 |
| bencoh | I can also keep a copy of the git repository if needed | 17:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | let's wait for dos1, at least for a while. This is pending since a year now, a few more days won't kill me (I hope) | 17:50 |
| atk | DocScrutinizer05: how big is the git? | 17:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | atk: good question, no idea | 17:52 |
| atk | also, you could probably re-host the server on a £5/mo linode | 17:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | there's website git and there's real software/project git repos | 17:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | atk: I probably could if I could afford migrating and administrating it | 17:53 |
| atk | I will log in and have a look around, I would be up for migrating it for free if it doesn't look like a terribly big job | 17:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | many thanks! :-) | 17:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | dos1: ping | 18:02 |
| * enyc meows | 18:02 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | atk: I'd also be grateful for a reasonable cmdline oneliner to backup that system to one of my local disks, without too much cruft | 18:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | a plain rsync without comnptression and file partitioning seems suboptimal | 18:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | atk: oh, and http://neo900.files.dev-1.org/ is already about to go /dev/null | 18:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | unless you're interested to keep it? | 18:06 |
| bencoh | files.devuan.org doesn't sound too useful | 18:06 |
| bencoh | is there anything there that is not a mirror of devuan? | 18:06 |
| enyc | i wonder if leste devs would help archive, may not be helpful, just a thought | 18:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | bencoh: nope this is explicitly one of the official devuan mirrors | 18:09 |
| bencoh | DocScrutinizer05: ah | 18:09 |
| bencoh | I see | 18:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | bencoh and atk - you'll negotiate something? let me know what's your idea once you agreed on sth please | 18:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | enyc: leste isn't interested in nor related to neo900 | 18:24 |
| enyc | DocScrutinizer05: sure ok =) | 18:25 |
| enyc | i just thouht might be worth an ask if hasn't been done | 18:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'd have a hard time evaluating offers from there. I don't know the guys that are associated with leste, most of them. Others don't like me and I forgot who those were. Not worth the hassle | 18:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | personally I'm absolutely happy with the archive-org snapshot plus git repos migrated, plus the rest that's _not_ publicly exposed simply getting a backup on one of my local disks | 18:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no changes on the website nor the git repos for almost 2 years, and I'm pretty sure it will stay this way | 18:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | even stuff like https://web.archive.org/web/20200311084958/http://neo900.org/stuff/papers/hb.pdf works, so I think that's all that possibly is worth keeping | 18:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ...for the public. Going to sort with users on this box how to proceed with their homedirs etc | 18:37 |
| atk | DocScrutinizer05: if it's a mirror of devuan then that probably gets a hell of a lot of traffic and it seems it would be costly to maintain, if you don't think you can sustain it I think it's probably best to let someone else do it / ask some educational institution to host it | 18:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | atk: it's just one of a two or three dozen mirrors. It may vanish with no massive impact on anything. OTOH traffic is pretty low | 19:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | https://devuan.org/get-devuan | 19:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | traffic https://i.imgur.com/rcAZ025.png https://i.imgur.com/uo2hzbL.png https://i.imgur.com/935Wb2e.png | 19:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | that's max 260GB/month | 19:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | but, as I said, it's not mission critical in any way, it was just "because I can" without any additional cost and gaining some PR by the URL on https://devuan.org/get-devuan | 19:47 |
| * enyc meows | 20:50 | |
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