| LjL | after tearing them into pieces, not without some satisfaction | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| LjL | although i don't think it's time to celebrate because we may well go back... but what the hell, for now this bullshit is gone | 00:00 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 21:51 UTC: Trump claims to have been taking hydroxychloroquine despite FDA warnings – live: FDA has warned against using the drug without medical supervision Interview with whistleblower Rick Bright angers president Lockdown protests may have spread virus, cellphone data suggests Coronavirus – latest global updates → https://is.gd/dxXC6G | 00:01 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Kentucky, US: +247 cases (now 7935), +12 deaths (now 346) since 2 days ago — Colombia: +721 cases (now 16295), +18 deaths (now 592) since 23 hours ago — Texas, US: +257 cases (now 49366), +2 deaths (now 1366) since 32 minutes ago — US: +680 cases (now 1.5 million), +14 deaths (now 91731) since 32 minutes ago | 00:06 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Cameroon: +424 cases (now 3529) since 2 days ago — New Jersey, US: +302 cases (now 150078), +7 deaths (now 10443) since 2 hours ago — US: +328 cases (now 1.5 million), +7 deaths (now 91738) since 18 minutes ago — World: +752 cases (now 4.9 million), +7 deaths (now 319352) since 18 minutes ago | 00:21 |
| Zalyssa | fucking matrix users | 00:24 |
| EricGrahamMacEac | https://www.health.harvard.edu/diseases-and-conditions/coronavirus-resource-center | 00:27 |
| Brainstorm | New from Il Sole 24 Ore at 22:20 UTC: Contagi in calo, superato il primo test. Ma a inizio giugno il termometro delle riaperture: Dal 4 maggio giorno della graduale uscita dal lockdown sono trascorsi ormai 15 giorni e i numeri dicono che il Covid, per ora, non ha rialzato la testa → https://is.gd/9Ffq28 | 00:29 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Uruguay: +150 cases (now 884) since 23 hours ago — New Mexico, US: +158 cases (now 6096), +5 deaths (now 270) since 23 hours ago — California, US: +751 cases (now 81181), +20 deaths (now 3309) since 33 minutes ago — US: +926 cases (now 1.5 million), +25 deaths (now 91763) since 17 minutes ago | 00:36 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 22:24 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Australia coronavirus live: NSW students to return full time next week as Australia condemns China barley tariff – latest updates → https://is.gd/EjGdWJ | 00:36 |
| desantnye | anyone wearing consumer 3M respirators? | 00:40 |
| desantnye | HUGE shoutout to the 3M 2297 filters | 00:40 |
| desantnye | they're so easy to breathe through it's like they're not even there | 00:41 |
| Zalyssa | are you getting compensated by 3M | 00:41 |
| desantnye | course not | 00:41 |
| Zalyssa | hard to tell these days | 00:41 |
| pyna | trump says terminate instead of fired, when he knows he's doing the thing that he knows he's not supposed to do | 00:42 |
| Zalyssa | trump doesn't even know what planet he's on | 00:43 |
| Zalyssa | I doubt he knows what he's doing | 00:43 |
| desantnye | if I got compensated by 3M I would be recommending much more expensive equipment | 00:43 |
| pyna | he's on america, duh, and by the way, what a nasty question, i mean, we're all so beautiful right? | 00:44 |
| desantnye | 2297 filters are about $10-$15 a pair when available, unfortunately like most disc filters they're not easy to disinfect | 00:44 |
| pyna | trump needs to get circus peanutted | 00:45 |
| Zalyssa | I'm going to believe you're being serious, pyna | 00:45 |
| pyna | i'm being both serious and extremely funny | 00:45 |
| Zalyssa | "funny" is an interesting choice of word for what you're doing | 00:45 |
| pyna | relax, bring the light inside your body | 00:46 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/covid19: Criticism of the Oxford Coronavirus Vaccine (81 votes) | https://redd.it/gm3jus | 00:50 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 22:40 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: Italy begins reopening bars and cafes as rate of deaths and new infections falls again → https://is.gd/ftMK7c | 00:50 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Brazil: +8625 cases (now 254220), +422 deaths (now 16792) since 5 hours ago — Haiti: +77 cases (now 533), +1 deaths (now 21) since 23 hours ago — New York, US: +870 cases (now 361179), +15 deaths (now 28458) since 2 hours ago — World: +10104 cases (now 4.9 million), +448 deaths (now 319825) since 17 minutes ago | 00:51 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 22:53 UTC: Trump claims to have been taking hydroxychloroquine despite FDA warnings – live: FDA has warned against using the drug without medical supervision Interview with whistleblower Rick Bright angers president Lockdown protests may have spread virus, cellphone data suggests Coronavirus – latest global updates → https://is.gd/dxXC6G | 01:04 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Wyoming, US: +12 cases (now 766), +2 deaths (now 10) since a day ago — Czechia: +59 cases (now 8586) since 7 hours ago — Massachusetts, US: +1042 cases (now 87052), +65 deaths (now 5862) since a day ago — US: +1140 cases (now 1.5 million), +80 deaths (now 91859) since 17 minutes ago | 01:06 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health at 23:00 UTC: Coronavirus: Trump accuses WHO of being a 'puppet of China': The remarks come as his health secretary accuses the body of letting the pandemic spin "out of control". → https://is.gd/TITj36 | 01:11 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 23:11 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live updates: NSW schools to return full time next week as Australia condemns China barley tariff – latest news → https://is.gd/EjGdWJ | 01:18 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 23:25 UTC: Coronavirus live news: WHO promises independent review into global response as US deaths pass 90,000: Trump taking hydroxychloroquine against Covid-19; IMF chief says full economic recovery unlikely in 2021; Italy records lowest deaths since March. Follow the latest updates → https://is.gd/fzVpNa | 01:32 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Gabon: +112 cases (now 1432) since 2 days ago — Nebraska, US: +277 cases (now 10625), +2 deaths (now 125) since 22 hours ago — Colorado, US: +264 cases (now 22202), +9 deaths (now 1224) since a day ago — Iowa, US: +128 cases (now 15083), +9 deaths (now 364) since 7 hours ago | 01:36 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 23:45 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live updates: NSW schools to return full time next week as Australia condemns China barley tariff – latest news → https://is.gd/EjGdWJ | 01:53 |
| pyna | who's giving the president prescription drugs without a prescription | 02:04 |
| pyna | or who's writing POTUS prescriptions that aren't warranted | 02:04 |
| pyna | so gaslit i can't even tell which one is worse in a reality based world | 02:05 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Venezuela: +77 cases (now 618) since a day ago — Brazil: +1148 cases (now 255368), +61 deaths (now 16853) since an hour ago — Washington, US: +168 cases (now 19499), +1 deaths (now 1017) since 47 minutes ago — Georgia (US), US: +202 cases (now 38283), +7 deaths (now 1649) since 6 hours ago | 02:21 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 00:15 UTC: Coronavirus live news: WHO chief promises independent review of global response as US deaths pass 90,000: Trump taking hydroxychloroquine against Covid-19; IMF chief says full economic recovery unlikely in 2021; Italy records lowest deaths since March. Follow the latest updates → https://is.gd/fzVpNa | 02:21 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 00:25 UTC: (news): Trump says he takes hydroxychloroquine to prevent coronavirus infection even though it's an unproven treatment → https://is.gd/AXt0Tn | 02:28 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 00:29 UTC: Coronavirus live update Australia: 'no trade war' with China over tariffs, says Littleproud – latest news: Questions over tariffs following Australia’s call for Covid-19 investigation as NSW announces schools will return full-time on 25 May. Follow all the latest news, live → https://is.gd/EjGdWJ | 02:35 |
| iz | pyna: a guy that looks like this :b --> https://resources.stuff.co.nz/content/dam/images/1/p/n/m/e/f/image.related.StuffLandscapeSixteenByNine.710x400.1pnm7o.png/1525222409852.jpg | 02:36 |
| pyna | that's the original doctor - the one that said he was the healthiest president in history | 02:39 |
| pyna | hotshots like that were purged years ago | 02:39 |
| pyna | lol the WH physician that's just gone on record saying words that form complete sentences, is a local boy. he's an osteopath | 02:42 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 00:37 UTC: (news): Trump says he takes hydroxychloroquine to prevent coronavirus infection even though it's an unproven treatment → https://is.gd/AXt0Tn | 02:42 |
| iz | yeah, i wonder what the current guy looks like | 02:43 |
| pyna | he spent some time in the military so he looks ... the part | 02:44 |
| pyna | his name is sean and he's an osteopath from doylestown | 02:44 |
| iz | ah | 02:44 |
| pyna | if you recall the guy before (ronnie) was someone you didn't hear of until trump decided to put him in charge of the VA, and then he got kinda laughed out of time | 02:45 |
| pyna | and if i remember correctly, that guy ^ was the guy before ronnie | 02:45 |
| pyna | s/time/town/ | 02:46 |
| pyna | oh weird ronnie was there the whole time, i guess that other dude was just there to do 'the physical' | 02:48 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 00:45 UTC: Coronavirus live update Australia: 'no trade war' with China over tariffs, says Littleproud – latest news: Questions over tariffs following Australia’s call for Covid-19 investigation as NSW announces schools will return full-time on 25 May. Follow all the latest news, live → https://is.gd/EjGdWJ | 02:56 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 00:56 UTC: (news): Trump says he takes hydroxychloroquine to prevent coronavirus infection even though it's an unproven treatment → https://is.gd/AXt0Tn | 03:04 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Tunisia: +6 cases (now 1043), +1 deaths (now 46) since 2 days ago — Mexico: +2414 cases (now 51633), +155 deaths (now 5332) since 23 hours ago — World: +2625 cases (now 4.9 million), +161 deaths (now 320261) since 47 minutes ago — US: +211 cases (now 1.6 million), +5 deaths (now 91981) since 47 minutes ago | 03:06 |
| RubbleGate | https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/coronavirus/article242715656.html | 03:08 |
| RubbleGate | “They saw recombinant forms, and those are scary,” Gallo, co-founder and director of the Institute of Human Virology at the University of Maryland School of Medicine and co-founder and international scientific adviser of the Global Virus Network, said in an interview. “The structure of the spike has features reminiscent of HIV’s spike protein.” | 03:08 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 01:00 UTC: Coronavirus live update Australia: 'no trade war' with China over tariffs, says Littleproud – latest news: Questions over tariffs following Australia’s call for Covid-19 investigation as NSW announces schools will return full-time on 25 May. Follow all the latest news, live → https://is.gd/EjGdWJ | 03:11 |
| pyna | poor trump, he may be the single most destructive organism alive on the planet, but he's still got a long way to go before he touches thomas midgely jr, the single most desctructive organism that ever lived on earth | 03:11 |
| dunnp | how is it like HIV? | 03:12 |
| danielp3344 | lol | 03:12 |
| pyna | the spike protein apparently | 03:12 |
| dunnp | but its really different | 03:13 |
| dunnp | also doesnt mutate much | 03:13 |
| pyna | he does have the absolute right to terminate as much as he wants, cause he has the nukes | 03:15 |
| pyna | and the whole framework we set up in the 60s so if he says launch, there's elaborate machanisms to make sure that no one can interfere | 03:18 |
| NeuNeu | In regards to the current headlines concerning POTUS and pills, is there anything that may actually help mitigate COVID-19 symptoms? | 03:20 |
| dunnp | no | 03:20 |
| dunnp | don't catch it | 03:20 |
| pyna | yes, maybe | 03:20 |
| pyna | hydroxychloroquine | 03:21 |
| pyna | it may | 03:21 |
| dunnp | no, that's been proven to not work | 03:21 |
| pyna | it is also may | 03:21 |
| pyna | no, lots of sources say it might work. president of the united states is a pretty good source | 03:22 |
| dunnp | no, he is not.. | 03:22 |
| bittersweetsymph | I heard some studies said vitamin D but I guess this disease is so new the textbooks are yet to be written on it | 03:22 |
| bittersweetsymph | heard people mention zinc but same thing | 03:23 |
| ubLXI | timeout time, pyna | 03:23 |
| bittersweetsymph | but i have some bottles of both anyway | 03:23 |
| dunnp | wow, getting more censor-y in here eh | 03:23 |
| bittersweetsymph | maybe they will do nothing though...who knows but I feel they might help just a fraction which is at least something perhaps | 03:24 |
| ubLXI | no, dunnp. pyna was intentionally typing frivolous nonsense | 03:24 |
| ubLXI | no censorship factor here | 03:24 |
| dunnp | agreed ubLXI | 03:24 |
| dunnp | doing some trials on vit c and zinc bittersweetsymph | 03:25 |
| NeuNeu | China's been fighting this shit for several months, but I've yet to see anything about possible treatments coming from them | 03:25 |
| dunnp | they weakly help with other coronoviruses | 03:25 |
| bittersweetsymph | yeah I have see the studies that say something like ' Vitamin C might reduce the duration and severity of colds' but not sure how much they do or don't apply to covid-19 | 03:30 |
| ubLXI | MedCram's Dr Seheult (https://www.youtube.com/user/MEDCRAMvideos/videos) is doing multiple posts looking into role of oxidative stress in COVID-19 progression and seems to be fond of the view that NAC supplementation might attenuate the stress associated with positive feedback in cytokine storm; he also discusses NAC's potential role in clearing clotting factors | 03:31 |
| NeuNeu | Vitamin C has a mixed track record, NAC might be an interesting avenue | 03:31 |
| dunnp | always liked this infographic for these things: https://www.informationisbeautiful.net/visualizations/snake-oil-scientific-evidence-for-nutritional-supplements-vizsweet/ | 03:31 |
| ADL | https://youtu.be/UDPK9VuY19E | 03:33 |
| ADL | https://youtu.be/UDPK9VuY19E | 03:33 |
| NeuNeu | And even if something has some evidence backing it, the effect is usually very minuscule | 03:34 |
| LjL | ADL, this channel really isn't into just posting random videos (football first, this one at least is less offensive than *football*, but still!) | 03:38 |
| LjL | PM me if you actually want to take part in a more take-party way | 03:38 |
| dunnp | hows it going LjL? | 03:38 |
| LjL | dunnp, getting distracted with silly vintage things to buy on ebay and yet managing to get anxious about them *too* | 03:39 |
| dunnp | parents still ok? | 03:39 |
| LjL | overall, much better than hydrochloroquine | 03:39 |
| LjL | parents still okay, mother not great mentally | 03:39 |
| LjL | freaks out sometimes | 03:39 |
| dunnp | mm | 03:40 |
| dunnp | mine are now having neighborhood "parties" where everyone sits in a giant circle 8 feet apart | 03:40 |
| LjL | oh lord | 03:40 |
| LjL | at least that's more than the law-mandated meter here | 03:40 |
| dunnp | yea seems safe enough | 03:41 |
| dunnp | it is outdoors too | 03:41 |
| dunnp | good for mental health | 03:41 |
| LjL | but if anyone looked at actual infection patterns they'd laugh at this "meter" or "2 meters" thing anyway | 03:41 |
| LjL | dunnp, yes the outdoor part probably helps more than the distance | 03:41 |
| LjL | and yeah... mental health starts getting important now (i mean, it always was, but lockdown-wise) | 03:41 |
| dunnp | I admit that talking to people in person is something that I miss | 03:42 |
| dunnp | had a student come over to get a parking pass and we talked through the window for about an hour | 03:42 |
| LjL | bit of a shitty situation and the part that takes the most toll on my mom at least is there isn't really an end in sight. vaccine? what vaccine? maybe there won't be a vaccine! | 03:43 |
| dunnp | yea I'm hopeful | 03:43 |
| NeuNeu | Think fear of a botched (or god forbid, harmful) vaccine means that it's at least a year out | 03:44 |
| LjL | i think there will be a vaccine, but i think it will be hard-to-impossible to actually eradicate | 03:44 |
| dunnp | NeuNeu: yea a year or so | 03:44 |
| LjL | NeuNeu, i'm afraid god will not forbid it, i don't find it such an unlikely possibility | 03:44 |
| dunnp | we were thinking 18 months about 2 months ago and I don't see any reason to change that | 03:44 |
| dunnp | our hospital seems to have things under control now | 03:45 |
| LjL | so i assume that partly because of that, and partly just because mass production will take time and there will be bidding wars, they will vaccinate "vulnerable people" first and the rest of us will wait a while | 03:45 |
| NeuNeu | Best that way, statistically many of us will likely weather an infection with mild symptoms | 03:45 |
| LjL | NeuNeu, yes and no | 03:46 |
| LjL | there are reports of it lingering on "a while" in some people, and in a poll on people who had SARS, like 40% of them reported chronic fatigue | 03:46 |
| LjL | chronic meaning at least one year after their infection | 03:46 |
| LjL | this is not SARS, but it's also not so much unlike SARS | 03:47 |
| dunnp | yea seeing a lot of kideny daamge too | 03:47 |
| LjL | right, all the organ damage that... i don't know how much it's been assessed yet | 03:47 |
| LjL | people are "recovered", there's been little talk (on media, we talk about it sometimes *here*) of what it means to be "recovered" | 03:47 |
| LjL | on TV, someone "recovered" will invariably be someone who says they're feeling just fine | 03:47 |
| LjL | i don't think that's necessarily a statistically accurate picture | 03:48 |
| NeuNeu | Probably won't get a clear picture for years | 03:48 |
| LjL | yeah | 03:48 |
| dunnp | yup | 03:48 |
| LjL | but that's why i won't take for granted that for the majority of us we'll simply have some mild "flu-like illness" and that's it | 03:49 |
| LjL | i'm not saying it's *false* either, but we don't really know, there are indications both ways | 03:49 |
| dunnp | yep | 03:49 |
| dunnp | but we are opening anyway! | 03:49 |
| LjL | have a look at the last two entries in "Info" here https://covid19.specops.network/#info if you want, from the one where it mentions Paul Garner | 03:50 |
| NeuNeu | Not sure what I'm more scared of; economic depression or contracting the disease | 03:50 |
| NeuNeu | Both are not pleasant | 03:50 |
| LjL | dunnp, so are we. i don't know if that's avoidable either. i was like "health before economy" but we can't let the economy *completely* burn into flames either | 03:50 |
| dunnp | I am lucky in that I can stay home indefinitely | 03:51 |
| dunnp | and I get to control my lab opening plans so we are being very cautious | 03:51 |
| dunnp | we have 1 person per 500 sq ft. | 03:52 |
| NeuNeu | LjL, One thing I didn't see was the stock market rallying while US & global unemployment spikes | 03:53 |
| dunnp | thats really crazy because "big" lab is only 1000 sq ft | 03:53 |
| dunnp | yea NeuNeu | 03:53 |
| LjL | i have no real knowledge of how the stock market works | 03:54 |
| dunnp | I've moved most to cash cause I think it will fall again | 03:54 |
| dunnp | when the second wave comes | 03:54 |
| NeuNeu | dunnp, yeah probably will by June when holders realize consumer confidence isn't going to suddenly rebound | 03:54 |
| NeuNeu | LjL, people see something, buy stock, numbers up, sell stock, repeat | 03:55 |
| NeuNeu | that's the theory anyway | 03:55 |
| LjL | :P | 03:55 |
| dunnp | unless us gov gives everyone 1k to spend every two weeks like the great mark cuban says should happen | 03:56 |
| NeuNeu | we're already at 118% debt-to-gdp | 03:56 |
| NeuNeu | I dunno how much higher we can go | 03:56 |
| dunnp | I got paid in stock once - that didn't turn out so well | 03:57 |
| NeuNeu | Atlanta fed estimates a GDP drop of -42.8% https://www.frbatlanta.org/cqer/research/gdpnow | 03:58 |
| NeuNeu | So I'm not sure how these expensive COVID relief programs are going to be realistically funded in the long run | 03:58 |
| NeuNeu | dunnp, I will happily accept $1k from Mark Cuban's personal checking account every week | 03:59 |
| dunnp | for the 2nd quarter | 03:59 |
| dunnp | ask for gold NeuNeu | 04:01 |
| NeuNeu | dunnp, water rights and real estate | 04:02 |
| NeuNeu | I'm drifting off topic, sorry mods | 04:02 |
| BruntLIVE | https://www.businessinsider.com/diseases-columbus-brought-to-americas-2015-10 | 04:05 |
| ubLXI | hardly, NeuNeu. anyway, offtopic in line with channel quietness is somewhat fine IMO. random noise, maybe not so much | 04:11 |
| ubLXI | speaking of | 04:11 |
| LjL | what i cannot possibly pass on is calling ops mods | 04:26 |
| NeuNeu | The redditor outs himself | 04:27 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 02:10 UTC: World Health Organization: WHO to agree deal over future coronavirus inquiry → https://is.gd/RsKzhe | 04:28 |
| LjL | NeuNeu, well i just tried to open r/outing but it says i need to message the MODS to visit that community, so i wouldn't know | 04:32 |
| NeuNeu | LjL, well it may still be active, but if not I've heard admins giving mod status when asked for it | 04:36 |
| NeuNeu | LjL, definitely been abused in the past | 04:36 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Kazakhstan: +311 cases (now 6751) since 10 hours ago — Panama: +120 cases (now 9726), +4 deaths (now 279) since a day ago — Bolivia: +175 cases (now 4263), +5 deaths (now 174) since 23 hours ago — Honduras: +152 cases (now 2798), +4 deaths (now 146) since 23 hours ago | 04:36 |
| LjL | NeuNeu, are you saying like... i shouldn't ask to get it just so i can use it to out people?! pfft no fun then | 04:38 |
| LjL | although outing people as reddit users *on reddit* might be a little pointless anyway | 04:38 |
| pyna | nonsense yes, frivolous, no | 04:39 |
| NeuNeu | NeuNeu, Pyna, create a Pastebin that you add nicknames to everytime they out themselves? | 04:39 |
| NeuNeu | create a custom command that automatically adds them? | 04:40 |
| pyna | i was responding to something a while ago | 04:40 |
| NeuNeu | Pyna, sorry my bad | 04:40 |
| pyna | quite all right | 04:41 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 02:35 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live update: Chinese embassy says Australia's claims about Covid-19 investigation 'nothing but a joke' – latest news → https://is.gd/EjGdWJ | 04:42 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for New Zealand: +4 cases (now 1503) since 2 days ago — World: +4 cases (now 4.9 million) since 27 minutes ago | 04:51 |
| dunnp | I too use reddit | 04:53 |
| dunnp | dont dox me | 04:53 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 02:46 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live update: national death toll reaches 100 as Chinese embassy says Australia's Covid-19 inquiry claims 'a joke' – latest news → https://is.gd/EjGdWJ | 04:56 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Western Australia, Australia: +3 cases (now 557) since a day ago — Quebec, Canada: +708 cases (now 43636), +34 deaths (now 3597) since a day ago — Ontario, Canada: +312 cases (now 24286), +20 deaths (now 2019) since a day ago — Guatemala: +89 cases (now 2001), +3 deaths (now 38) since 23 hours ago | 05:06 |
| cringy_poodle | hi guys | 05:17 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 03:05 UTC: Coronavirus live update: Australia's death toll reaches 100 as Chinese embassy says Covid-19 investigation claims 'a joke' – latest news: Death of 93-year-old woman takes Australia’s coronavirus toll to 100, while questions raised over tariffs after Covid-19 inquiry call, and NSW says schools to return full-time [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/EjGdWJ | 05:18 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Pais Vasco, Spain: +131 cases (now 13422), +11 deaths (now 1466) since 2 days ago — Castile y Leon, Spain: +143 cases (now 18512), +13 deaths (now 1953) since 2 days ago — C. Valenciana, Spain: +64 cases (now 10914), +5 deaths (now 1370) since 2 days ago — Canarias, Spain: +10 cases (now 2294), +2 deaths (now 153) since 2 days ago | 05:22 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health at 03:17 UTC: Coronavirus: Trump accuses WHO of being a 'puppet of China': The remarks come as his health secretary accuses the body of letting the pandemic spin "out of control". → https://is.gd/TITj36 | 05:25 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/covid19: SARS-CoV-2 seroprevalence trends in healthy blood donors during the COVID-19 Milan outbreak (80 votes) | https://redd.it/gm7k1b | 05:34 |
| LjL | in italy there's more and more talk of a "weakened virus" which gets corrected by experts into "no no no, it's just lower viral load" | 05:40 |
| cringy_poodle | LjL i think i know you | 05:45 |
| cringy_poodle | like from 10 years ago | 05:45 |
| cringy_poodle | do you remember that super special guy called 0xhc01c or something like that? | 05:45 |
| LjL | oh yeah? well i was definitely on IRC 10 years ago, sadly perhaps | 05:46 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 03:40 UTC: Coronavirus live update: Australia's death toll reaches 100 as Chinese embassy says Covid-19 investigation claims 'a joke' – latest news: Death of 93-year-old woman takes Australia’s coronavirus toll to 100, while questions raised over tariffs after Covid-19 inquiry call, and NSW says schools to return full-time [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/EjGdWJ | 05:46 |
| cringy_poodle | he used to come to irc, and i saw him interacting with you. maybe it was you or maybe not | 05:46 |
| LjL | Ox0dea? | 05:46 |
| cringy_poodle | yeah something like that. were you the one who had a fight with him? | 05:46 |
| cringy_poodle | like a super BIG fight | 05:47 |
| cringy_poodle | i'm not even a hardcore irc user, just something i saw one day | 05:47 |
| cringy_poodle | sorry if it sounds too gossipy | 05:47 |
| cringy_poodle | the guy was super special | 05:48 |
| cringy_poodle | just stuff i noticed | 05:48 |
| LjL | no i was usually okay with him | 05:50 |
| LjL | but i did have some big fights with... various people | 05:51 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/covid19: Treatment Response to Hydroxychloroquine, Lopinavir/Ritonavir, and Antibiotics for Moderate COVID 19: A First Report on the Pharmacological Outcomes from South Korea (82 votes) | https://redd.it/gm57o3 | 06:22 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/coronavirus: They survived ventilators, body aches, fever. Now, coronavirus survivors say states shouldn't be reopening (10000 votes) | https://redd.it/glzohj | 06:34 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 04:22 UTC: Coronavirus live update: Australia's death toll reaches 100 while federal childcare report to remain under wraps – latest news: Death of 93-year-old woman takes national Covid-19 toll to 100; childcare report stays ‘cabinet-in-confidence’; NSW says schools to return full-time on 25 May. Follow all the latest [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/EjGdWJ | 06:35 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/coronavirus: Woman who designed Florida's COVID-19 dashboard has been removed from her position for refusing to "manually change data to drum up support for the plan to reopen." (10474 votes) | https://redd.it/gmfkoa | 06:46 |
| ryouma | serious criminal charges could be brought for that | 06:51 |
| Zalyssa | u wot m8 | 07:11 |
| Zalyssa | oh | 07:11 |
| Zalyssa | right | 07:11 |
| ryouma | for crying out loud, they brought terrorism charges against a guy who licked a box in a store. they should bring them against those who do that. | 07:17 |
| ryouma | florida being a swing state... | 07:17 |
| ryouma | i presume | 07:18 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 05:10 UTC: Coronavirus latest: at a glance: A summary of the biggest developments in the global coronavirus outbreak → https://is.gd/TasyNu | 07:24 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 05:22 UTC: Coronavirus live update: Australia's death toll reaches 100 while federal childcare report to remain under wraps – latest news: Death of 93-year-old woman takes national Covid-19 toll to 100; childcare report stays ‘cabinet-in-confidence’; NSW says schools to return full-time on 25 May. Follow all the latest [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/EjGdWJ | 07:38 |
| peterx[m] | %cases us | 07:50 |
| Brainstorm | peterx[m]: In US, there have been 1.6 million confirmed cases (0.5% of the population) and 91981 deaths (5.9% of cases) as of 4 hours ago. 10.6 million tests were performed (14.6% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=US for time series data. | 07:50 |
| prk0ghy[m] | Wow this is creativ marketing | 08:28 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/covid19: Infectious SARS-CoV-2 in Feces of Patient with Severe COVID-19 (80 votes) | https://redd.it/gm7mua | 08:29 |
| ecks | and here i thought covid-19 was an abbreviation for "coronavirus infectious disease 2019" | 08:31 |
| ecks | how could i be so naive | 08:31 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 06:27 UTC: New car registrations in Europe fall 76% in April as coronavirus lockdowns hit sales: European car sales fell dramatically in April as coronavirus lockdowns in the region closed car dealerships and brought a halt to manufacturing and sales, the latest industry data showed Tuesday. → https://is.gd/xq2wwk | 08:35 |
| weimarnetzbot[m] | nunurs: lol hope you are not so dazed to really believe in such shit, even a mental disabled child would not belive | 08:47 |
| weimarnetzbot[m] | but goog joke. a bit lang but good | 08:48 |
| weimarnetzbot[m] | long | 08:48 |
| weimarnetzbot[m] | so many nuts nowdays | 08:49 |
| weimarnetzbot[m] | maybe thats a corona symptom | 08:49 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 06:48 UTC: Coronavirus live update: Australia's death toll reaches 100 while federal childcare report to remain under wraps – latest news: Death of 93-year-old woman takes national Covid-19 toll to 100; childcare report stays ‘cabinet-in-confidence’; NSW says schools to return full-time on 25 May. Follow all the latest [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/EjGdWJ | 08:56 |
| nunurs[m] | You people are so afraid of watching a few video's? All I pointed out was WHAT THEY SAID in the interviews THEY DID. Your too afraid to watch because your fragile world view can't handle the truth. The links are there, just click on them, Thucydides Trap is something Academics, Intellectuals & Politicians have been discussing for years because they know history & could see China rising as a world power. Just google the | 08:57 |
| nunurs[m] | term. Your just weak people who can't even watch a couple vids & read an article or 2 and google a search term...pathetic. All you can muster up is some name calling?!?! HA!!! BNot even a sound argument of any sort...just sad, truly sad. | 08:57 |
| ecks | wake up sheeple! | 08:57 |
| nunurs[m] | * You people are so afraid of watching a few video's? All I pointed out was WHAT THEY SAID in the interviews THEY DID. Your too afraid to watch because your fragile world view can't handle the truth. The links are there, just click on them, Thucydides Trap is something Academics, Intellectuals & Politicians have been discussing for years because they know history & could see China rising as a world power. Just google | 08:57 |
| nunurs[m] | the term. Your just weak people who can't even watch a couple vids & read an article or 2 and google a search term...pathetic. All you can muster up is some name calling?!?! HA!!! Not even a sound argument of any sort...just sad, truly sad. | 08:57 |
| ecks | wake up sheeple! | 08:57 |
| weimarnetzbot[m] | just weak minds, who take words out of context | 08:59 |
| weimarnetzbot[m] | its simple, if you really think gates made corona, you are an absolut ill mind | 09:00 |
| weimarnetzbot[m] | very confused | 09:00 |
| weimarnetzbot[m] | or did it to sell vacs | 09:01 |
| genera | Mäh! | 09:01 |
| weimarnetzbot[m] | one must a total idiot to believe in such things | 09:01 |
| weimarnetzbot[m] | psychs get often into such ideas | 09:02 |
| weimarnetzbot[m] | why should one waste time to watch videos with claims of "it was bill!" | 09:03 |
| nunurs[m] | weak minds who take words out of context says the CCP bot, like what your doing right this second in that very statement, nowhere did \i say he made it or did it to sell vaccines. Your intellectual game needs an upgrade. Are you an AI bot in 1st phase of development or a foreigner trying to influence the West how & what to think? | 09:04 |
| weimarnetzbot[m] | ok, in short | 09:04 |
| ecks | i think you need to spam your paste some more, by the 137th time we will all agree with you | 09:04 |
| nunurs[m] | * weak minds who take words out of context says the CCP bot, like what your doing right this second in that very statement, nowhere did i say he made it or did it to sell vaccines. Your intellectual game needs an upgrade. Are you an AI bot in 1st phase of development or a foreigner trying to influence the West how & what to think? | 09:04 |
| weimarnetzbot[m] | everyone who thinks gates and corona is related in a sinister way, is a total idiot | 09:05 |
| nunurs[m] | No kidding eh ecks? | 09:05 |
| nunurs[m] | lol | 09:05 |
| genera | ecks i think it is the matrix bridge that .. reposts after each edit, no? | 09:05 |
| weimarnetzbot[m] | genera: yep, guess so | 09:06 |
| weimarnetzbot[m] | and it's so nuts to think thats all bill | 09:11 |
| weimarnetzbot[m] | yet we know it better | 09:11 |
| weimarnetzbot[m] | it's all melinda | 09:11 |
| nunurs[m] | These fools just don't learn, they still think they're dealing with dumbed down people who drink aspartame all day & eat fast food & rot their brains with drugs & alcohol & don't read books or do deep studying, they really jumped the gun, they saw that futuristic movie Idiocracy and assumed that's how everyone was & figured they could just program us all with "group think", they should've waited until people actually | 09:11 |
| nunurs[m] | were like the ones in Idiocracy & maybe they would've stood a chance. | 09:11 |
| weimarnetzbot[m] | if i see the demonstrations against corona lockdowns in germany and other countries... we already have a lot of idiots, nearly as dumb as the people in idiocracy | 09:14 |
| weimarnetzbot[m] | noone should mate with such ppl | 09:15 |
| Tobi[m] | Cocaine as cure 😂 | 09:16 |
| weimarnetzbot[m] | hehe | 09:16 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 07:10 UTC: UK jobless claims jumped 70% in April as the coronavirus hit employment: The number of people claiming unemployment benefits in the U.K. soared in April, as the coronavirus outbreak created mass job losses in the country, the latest data showed. → https://is.gd/EdkYwj | 09:17 |
| weimarnetzbot[m] | UK is so fucked now that they left the EU.... all the money they don't get now..... | 09:17 |
| weimarnetzbot[m] | I'am very happy not to paying any longer for them | 09:18 |
| genera | is that die ZEIT? | 09:18 |
| Tobi[m] | And Trump considering leaving the WHO | 09:18 |
| weimarnetzbot[m] | looks a bit like | 09:19 |
| Tobi[m] | Yep | 09:19 |
| weimarnetzbot[m] | so in that point nunurs is right... there are already a lot of idiots | 09:21 |
| weimarnetzbot[m] | an they tend to come out of their holes in such situations | 09:21 |
| weimarnetzbot[m] | I remember 2012.... | 09:23 |
| weimarnetzbot[m] | now the same idiots tell you something about G5 and corona | 09:23 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 07:20 UTC: Coronavirus live update: Australia's death toll reaches 100 while federal childcare report to remain under wraps – latest news: Death of 93-year-old woman takes national Covid-19 toll to 100; childcare report stays ‘cabinet-in-confidence’; NSW says schools to return full-time on 25 May. Follow all the latest [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/EjGdWJ | 09:24 |
| weimarnetzbot[m] | guess he was one of the guys running around the internet in 2012, telling us planet X is coming and that the maya did know it best | 09:30 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 07:34 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: young and old will be hardest hit economically, study finds → https://is.gd/5ciGxr | 09:45 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 08:10 UTC: UK jobless claims jumped 70% in April as the coronavirus hit employment: The number of people claiming unemployment benefits in the U.K. soared in April, as the coronavirus outbreak created mass job losses in the country, the latest data showed. → https://is.gd/EdkYwj | 10:13 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 08:20 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: young and old will be hardest hit economically, study finds → https://is.gd/5ciGxr | 10:27 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test) at 08:32 UTC: nCoV: Coronavirus: Wearing surgical masks can reduce COVID-19 spread by 75%, study claims → https://is.gd/xXSsrZ | 10:34 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 08:37 UTC: Coronavirus live update: Australia's death toll reaches 100 while federal childcare report to remain under wraps – latest news: Death of 93-year-old woman takes national Covid-19 toll to 100; childcare report stays ‘cabinet-in-confidence’; NSW says schools to return full-time on 25 May. Follow all the latest [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/EjGdWJ | 10:48 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health at 09:03 UTC: Coronavirus: Total deaths in England and Wales down: Figures show 12,600 people died in most recent week - down from 22,000 at height of pandemic. → https://is.gd/bJX7T2 | 11:09 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 09:11 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: young and old will be hardest hit economically, study finds → https://is.gd/5ciGxr | 11:16 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/covid19: Recurrence of COVID‑19 after recovery: a case report from Italy (81 votes) | https://redd.it/gmhfhp | 11:18 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for World: +14940 cases (now 4.9 million), +257 deaths (now 320570) since 6 hours ago — Afghanistan: +581 cases (now 7653), +5 deaths (now 178) since 22 hours ago — Russia: +9263 cases (now 299941), +115 deaths (now 2837) since a day ago — Oman: +292 cases (now 5671), +1 deaths (now 26) since 22 hours ago | 11:23 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 09:24 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: excess deaths reached almost 55,000 in early May, says ONS → https://is.gd/5ciGxr | 11:30 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for United Arab Emirates: +873 cases (now 25063), +3 deaths (now 227) since 16 hours ago — Madagascar: +4 cases (now 326), +1 deaths (now 2) since 21 hours ago — Belarus: +936 cases (now 31508), +4 deaths (now 175) since 22 hours ago — Romania: +155 cases (now 17191), +2 deaths (now 1126) since an hour ago | 12:23 |
| Brainstorm | New from Scientific American at 10:45 UTC: Geometry Points to Coronavirus Drug Target Candidates: Molecular model of a coronavirus spike (S) protein (red) bound to an angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 (ACE2) receptor (blue) on a human cell. → https://is.gd/k5agg8 | 12:55 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Nepal: +27 cases (now 402) since 17 hours ago — Bahrain: +190 cases (now 7374) since 14 hours ago — Malta: +11 cases (now 569) since 23 hours ago — San Marino: +1 cases (now 655) since a day ago | 13:08 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 11:00 UTC: Coronavirus latest: at a glance: A summary of the biggest developments in the global coronavirus outbreak → https://is.gd/ypvICV | 13:09 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/covid19: COVID-19 Perfect Storm (Part II): Role of Vitamins as Therapy or Preventive Strategy in Aged People (80 votes) | https://redd.it/gmg43x | 13:19 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 11:16 UTC: New car registrations in Europe fall 76% in April as coronavirus lockdowns hit sales: European car sales fell dramatically in April as coronavirus lockdowns in the region closed car dealerships and brought a halt to manufacturing and sales, the latest industry data showed Tuesday. → https://is.gd/xq2wwk | 13:23 |
| darsie | are bases and nucleotides the same counting unit? | 13:36 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/covid19: Loneliness most common stressor during COVID-19 (82 votes) | https://redd.it/gmlbf4 | 13:37 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 11:34 UTC: (news): Trump says he takes hydroxychloroquine to prevent coronavirus infection even though it's an unproven treatment → https://is.gd/AXt0Tn | 13:37 |
| darsie | preventing and treatment are different things. | 13:38 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 11:45 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: excess deaths reached almost 55,000 in early May, says ONS → https://is.gd/5ciGxr | 13:51 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Senegal: +73 cases (now 2617), +4 deaths (now 30) since 22 hours ago — Iran: +2111 cases (now 124603), +62 deaths (now 7119) since 23 hours ago — World: +3217 cases (now 4.9 million), +72 deaths (now 320660) since 50 minutes ago — India: +970 cases (now 102231), +5 deaths (now 3169) since 2 hours ago | 13:53 |
| Brainstorm | New from Reddit (test) at 11:50 UTC: CoronaVirusInfo: Learning and Adjusting To Technology: Coronavirus Tips For Working At Home → https://is.gd/e3km95 | 13:58 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 11:59 UTC: (news): After positive data on a coronavirus vaccine, Moderna will try to raise $1.34 billion with a stock sale → https://is.gd/yzu24v | 14:05 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Kuwait: +1073 cases (now 16764), +3 deaths (now 121) since a day ago — Sweden: +422 cases (now 30799), +45 deaths (now 3743) since a day ago — Portugal: +223 cases (now 29432), +16 deaths (now 1247) since a day ago — World: +3467 cases (now 4.9 million), +89 deaths (now 320749) since 34 minutes ago | 14:23 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 12:24 UTC: (news): Trump says he takes hydroxychloroquine to prevent coronavirus infection even though it's an unproven treatment → https://is.gd/AXt0Tn | 14:27 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 12:34 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: excess deaths reached almost 55,000 in early May, says ONS → https://is.gd/5ciGxr | 14:41 |
| ubLXI | "Importantly, we detected SARS-CoV-2−reactive CD4+ T cells in ∼40-60% of unexposed individuals, suggesting cross-reactive T cell recognition between circulating ‘common cold’ coronaviruses and SARS-CoV-2." - https://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(20)30610-3 | 14:46 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 12:44 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: U.S. cases surpass 1.5 million; retail earnings show strong sales → https://is.gd/oI2bUQ | 14:48 |
| ubLXI | in same vein: "Pre-existing and de novo humoral immunity to SARS-CoV-2 in humans" - https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.05.14.095414v1 | 14:48 |
| ubLXI | The Economist has published its excess deaths data and tools: https://github.com/TheEconomist/covid-19-excess-deaths-tracker | 14:52 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 12:50 UTC: Coronavirus US live: Trump claims to take hydroxychloroquine and threatens to withdraw US from WHO: Trump says he’s taking hydroxychloroquine despite FDA warnings Strikes erupt as US essential workers demand protection amid pandemic Coronavirus – latest global updates → https://is.gd/CuUhVd | 14:55 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 12:59 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: U.S. cases surpass 1.5 million; 75% of Singapore's economy to resume on June 2 → https://is.gd/oI2bUQ | 15:02 |
| tlenek | 123 | 15:07 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Tajikistan: +207 cases (now 1936) since a day ago — Saudi Arabia: +2509 cases (now 59854), +9 deaths (now 329) since a day ago — World: +3083 cases (now 4.9 million), +66 deaths (now 320815) since 52 minutes ago — Serbia: +34 cases (now 10733), +3 deaths (now 234) since 21 hours ago | 15:08 |
| Brainstorm | New from Scientific American at 13:00 UTC: Introducing the June 2020 Issue: Special report: How the coronavirus pandemic started, where it’s headed, and how scientists are fighting back -- Read more on ScientificAmerican.com → https://is.gd/slxigL | 15:09 |
| Brainstorm | New from BMJ at 13:06 UTC: Covid-19: MPs call on Public Health England to publish evidence for decision to drop community testing: A cross party group of MPs has said that Public Health England’s failure to publish the evidence behind its decision to discontinue community testing at the start of the covid-19 outbreak is... → https://is.gd/LddvdZ | 15:16 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 13:15 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: U.S. cases surpass 1.5 million; 75% of Singapore's economy to resume on June 2 → https://is.gd/oI2bUQ | 15:23 |
| ubLXI | former UK chief scientific officer finds present government's Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE) is not adequately transparent, so sets up 'shadow' SAGE: http://www.independentsage.org/ | 15:28 |
| ubLXI | direct link to its first report (pdf) published May 12: http://www.independentsage.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/The-Independent-SAGE-Report.pdf | 15:28 |
| Long71 | Hello | 15:38 |
| Long71 | Lets talk about corona | 15:38 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Sri Lanka: +28 cases (now 1020) since 18 hours ago — Virginia, US: +1005 cases (now 32145), +27 deaths (now 1041) since 21 hours ago — Brazil: +2028 cases (now 257396), +88 deaths (now 16941) since 13 hours ago — US: +1441 cases (now 1.6 million), +27 deaths (now 92063) since 35 minutes ago | 15:38 |
| Long71 | Vietnam doesnt have any case in 1 month | 15:39 |
| Long71 | That is my country' | 15:39 |
| Jigsy | %cases UK | 15:51 |
| Brainstorm | Jigsy: In United Kingdom, there have been 246406 confirmed cases (0.4% of the population) and 34796 deaths (14.1% of cases) as of 21 hours ago. 2.2 million tests were performed (11.1% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=United%20Kingdom for time series data. | 15:51 |
| aegirs | -+7 | 15:51 |
| peterx[m] | %cases us | 16:03 |
| Brainstorm | peterx[m]: In US, there have been 1.6 million confirmed cases (0.5% of the population) and 92064 deaths (5.9% of cases) as of 15 minutes ago. 10.6 million tests were performed (14.6% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=US for time series data. | 16:03 |
| Hullo1 | peterx[m], are you in US? | 16:06 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 14:11 UTC: (news): Southwest says new bookings now outpacing cancellations, a pandemic turning point → https://is.gd/JNUXCO | 16:20 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 14:22 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Southwest sees a turning point for travel, customers return as Olive Gardens reopen → https://is.gd/oI2bUQ | 16:27 |
| iz | unlimited breadsticks and infections | 16:34 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Maryland, US: +1784 cases (now 41546), +58 deaths (now 2081) since 22 hours ago — US: +1959 cases (now 1.6 million), +67 deaths (now 92130) since an hour ago — Germany: +193 cases (now 177482), +22 deaths (now 8145) since 16 hours ago — World: +2239 cases (now 4.9 million), +96 deaths (now 321028) since an hour ago | 16:38 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 14:41 UTC: Coronavirus US live: Trump claims to take hydroxychloroquine and threatens to withdraw US from WHO: Trump says he’s taking hydroxychloroquine despite FDA warnings Strikes erupt as US essential workers demand protection amid pandemic Coronavirus – latest global updates → https://is.gd/CuUhVd | 16:48 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Central African Rep.: +39 cases (now 366) since 2 days ago — Iowa, US: +173 cases (now 15256), +3 deaths (now 367) since 15 hours ago — Azerbaijan: +131 cases (now 3518), +1 deaths (now 41) since 23 hours ago — US: +173 cases (now 1.6 million), +58 deaths (now 92188) since 23 minutes ago | 16:53 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 14:52 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Southwest sees a turning point for travel, customers return as Olive Gardens reopen → https://is.gd/oI2bUQ | 16:55 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 15:07 UTC: (news): Southwest says new bookings now outpacing cancellations, a pandemic turning point → https://is.gd/JNUXCO | 17:09 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 15:15 UTC: Wearing a mask can reduce coronavirus transmission by 75%, new study claims: "The findings implied to the world and the public is that the effectiveness of mask-wearing against the coronavirus pandemic is huge," the study's lead microbiologist said. → https://is.gd/FaK1UT | 17:24 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 15:28 UTC: (news): Top execs from Netflix, Disney, Salesforce and more call on Congress to provide $1 trillion in coronavirus relief to local governments → https://is.gd/YhRU26 | 17:31 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 15:34 UTC: (news): NYC presses the state to approve line-of-duty benefits for police and other city employees who died from coronavirus → https://is.gd/56yNLB | 17:38 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Chile: +3520 cases (now 49579), +31 deaths (now 509) since 23 hours ago — Canada: +427 cases (now 78499), +15 deaths (now 5857) since 16 hours ago — World: +6264 cases (now 4.9 million), +72 deaths (now 321159) since 51 minutes ago — US: +681 cases (now 1.6 million), +3 deaths (now 92191) since 51 minutes ago | 17:39 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 15:49 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Southwest sees a turning point for travel, Home Depot's online surge 'above Black Friday levels' → https://is.gd/oI2bUQ | 17:52 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/covid19: Blacks/African Americans are 5 Times More Likely to Develop COVID-19 (86 votes) | https://redd.it/gmnaab | 17:56 |
| prkn8[m] | nice | 18:03 |
| prkn8[m] | finally some good news | 18:03 |
| spybert | I wouldn't call it good news, likely to produce civil unrest in the US | 18:08 |
| prkn8[m] | Which is exactly what is neccesary | 18:09 |
| spybert | But I guess it does show why Eurasians ended up keeping the genes from the Neanderthal immune system | 18:10 |
| oriba | Dr. Campbell (the youtube guy) says: maybe it's vitamin-d problem. darker skin -> less vitamin-d -> less vital immune system. Reason for unrest?! | 18:11 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 16:04 UTC: (news): Omada Health scores $57 million as coronavirus pandemic sparks investor interest in health tech → https://is.gd/TcG67D | 18:13 |
| spybert | oriba: There is considerable racism in the US. Black Americans will interpret the differential death statistics as some kind of plot against them. | 18:13 |
| genera | i wonder why John is the only one recommending Vitamin d supplementing | 18:13 |
| prkn8[m] | Blacks like to chimp out and the marxists are giving them the order | 18:14 |
| dunnp | "chimp out"? wtf | 18:17 |
| spybert | prkn8[m]: The civil war is over, the confederacy lost. Get over it. | 18:18 |
| NeuNeu | prkn8[m], calm down dude | 18:18 |
| NeuNeu | Sure, some people (of all ethnicity, such as those proclaiming "White power") view almost anything as a conspiracy against them | 18:19 |
| NeuNeu | But I don't think resorting to, uh, terms like that does anything positive | 18:19 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 16:14 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: UK coronavirus live: George Eustice takes daily briefing as death toll rises by 545 to 35,341 → https://is.gd/5ciGxr | 18:20 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 16:28 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Southwest sees a turning point for travel, Home Depot's online surge 'above Black Friday levels' → https://is.gd/oI2bUQ | 18:34 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 16:39 UTC: Wearing a mask can significantly reduce coronavirus transmission, new study claims: "The findings implied to the world and the public is that the effectiveness of mask-wearing against the coronavirus pandemic is huge," the study's lead microbiologist said. → https://is.gd/FaK1UT | 18:41 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 16:51 UTC: Wearing a mask can significantly reduce coronavirus transmission, study on hamsters claims: "The findings implied to the world and the public is that the effectiveness of mask-wearing against the coronavirus pandemic is huge," the study's lead microbiologist said. → https://is.gd/FaK1UT | 18:55 |
| _abc_ | The politics of numbers in the context of covid-19 in a small country https://www.ynetnews.com/article/BygXfeeoL -- the writer seems to be a lead geneticist in Israel | 19:02 |
| Brainstorm | New from Scientific American at 17:00 UTC: A Tsunami of Dementia Could Be On the Way: The COVID-19 pandemic can damage the aging brain both directly and indirectly -- Read more on ScientificAmerican.com → https://is.gd/jLu5Tr | 19:02 |
| _abc_ | Why did Brainstorm quote that mask message 3 times? | 19:03 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 17:05 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Local governments face massive budget cuts; Southwest sees a turning point for travel → https://is.gd/oI2bUQ | 19:09 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 17:10 UTC: (news): Top execs from Netflix, Disney, Salesforce and more call on Congress to provide $1 trillion in coronavirus relief to local governments → https://is.gd/YhRU26 | 19:16 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 17:18 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: crisis will push 60m into poverty, says World Bank chief → https://is.gd/fzVpNa | 19:23 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 17:28 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Local governments face massive budget cuts; Southwest sees a turning point for travel → https://is.gd/oI2bUQ | 19:30 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 17:34 UTC: An $800 fine if you don't wear a mask: The UAE introduces new coronavirus penalties: The UAE announced stricter Covid-19 measures and steep fines for those who flout rules less than a month after partially relaxing restrictions. → https://is.gd/pPZeig | 19:37 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/coronavirus: Photo of indian man stranded in Delhi due to lockdown and crying after he couldnt meet his son before the son died gains global attention. (10201 votes) | https://redd.it/gmlzak | 19:39 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Dominican Rep.: +498 cases (now 13223), +7 deaths (now 441) since a day ago — Brazil: +5149 cases (now 262545), +568 deaths (now 17509) since 4 hours ago — Minnesota, US: +657 cases (now 17029), +17 deaths (now 757) since 18 hours ago — United Kingdom: +2412 cases (now 248818), +545 deaths (now 35341) since a day ago | 19:39 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 17:41 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Local governments face massive budget cuts; Southwest sees a turning point for travel → https://is.gd/oI2bUQ | 19:44 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/covid19: Obesity and COVID-19: The role of visceral adipose tissue (81 votes) | https://redd.it/gmmc2b | 19:51 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Egypt: +720 cases (now 13484), +14 deaths (now 659) since a day ago — South Dakota, US: +58 cases (now 4085), +2 deaths (now 46) since a day ago — Georgia (US), US: +97 cases (now 38721), +15 deaths (now 1664) since 4 hours ago — Luxembourg: +11 cases (now 3958), +2 deaths (now 109) since a day ago | 19:54 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 17:55 UTC: (news): Omada Health scores $57 million as coronavirus pandemic sparks investor interest in health tech → https://is.gd/TcG67D | 20:00 |
| Brainstorm | New from New Scientist at 18:30 UTC: UK government advised to ‘urgently’ build up contact tracing capacity: The latest coronavirus news updated every day including coronavirus cases, the latest news, features and interviews from New Scientist and essential information about the covid-19 pandemic → https://is.gd/A8Z4GW | 20:14 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for France: +882 cases (now 180809) since 23 hours ago — New York, US: +1225 cases (now 362491), +101 deaths (now 28581) since 17 hours ago — Ohio, US: +467 cases (now 28952), +60 deaths (now 1720) since 17 hours ago — US: +2227 cases (now 1.6 million), +169 deaths (now 92689) since 50 minutes ago | 20:39 |
| aradesh | LjL: seems you're right. we logged 585 deaths today | 20:40 |
| aradesh | and >3000 new cases | 20:40 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 18:34 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: crisis will push 60m into poverty, says World Bank chief → https://is.gd/fzVpNa | 20:42 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 18:42 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Scammers impersonate contact tracers; McDonald's lawsuit alleges shortfalls → https://is.gd/oI2bUQ | 20:49 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Mauritania: +50 cases (now 131) since 23 hours ago — Spain: +615 cases (now 278803), +69 deaths (now 27778) since a day ago — World: +689 cases (now 5.0 million), +69 deaths (now 323328) since 20 minutes ago — Puerto Rico: +95 cases (now 2805) since a day ago | 20:54 |
| RubbleGate | the results are in. A right wing conservative approach to the virus doesn't work: | 21:19 |
| RubbleGate | https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-05-19/ventilators-missing-government-in-chaos-as-brazil-battles-virus | 21:19 |
| RubbleGate | This was Brazil's right wing, US-backed President 2 months ago: | 21:20 |
| RubbleGate | https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/03/25/brazils-bolsonaro-says-athletic-past-would-protect-coronavirus/ | 21:20 |
| RubbleGate | >Mr Bolsonaro also complained that state governments should abandon their "scorched earth" policies of isolation and restriction of movement, claiming that Brazil must "return to normality". "The risk group is people over 60 years old. So why are we closing schools?" | 21:21 |
| Arsanerit | RubbleGate: We already knew that. | 21:23 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews Live* at 19:20 UTC: /u/slakmehl: The National Institute for Allergy and Infectious Diseases has partnered with Moderna on this vaccine. Scientists at NIAID made the vaccine’s construct, or prototype, and the agency is running the Phase 1 trial. This week’s Moderna readout came from the earliest of data from the NIAID-led Phase 1. → https://is.gd/IdTLak | 21:24 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 19:36 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Trump says WHO must 'clean up' its act, VP Pence not taking hydroxychloroquine → https://is.gd/oI2bUQ | 21:38 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Peru: +4550 cases (now 99483), +125 deaths (now 2914) since 23 hours ago — Costa Rica: +16 cases (now 882) since a day ago — Tennessee, US: +367 cases (now 18378), +4 deaths (now 305) since a day ago — Michigan, US: +435 cases (now 52350), +102 deaths (now 5017) since a day ago | 21:39 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/covid19: High COVID-19 Attack Rate Among Attendees at Events at a Church — Arkansas, March 2020 (80 votes) | https://redd.it/gmsnnn | 21:52 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 19:50 UTC: Vaccine experts say Moderna didn't produce data critical to assessing Covid-19 vaccine: Heavy hearts soared Monday with news that Moderna's Covid-19 vaccine candidate — the frontrunner in the American market — seemed to be generating an immune response in Phase 1 trial subjects. → https://is.gd/QlnqzS | 21:52 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for South Africa: +767 cases (now 17200), +26 deaths (now 312) since 23 hours ago — Illinois, US: +1545 cases (now 98030), +145 deaths (now 4379) since 23 hours ago — US: +1545 cases (now 1.6 million), +145 deaths (now 92957) since 26 minutes ago — World: +2353 cases (now 5.0 million), +178 deaths (now 323709) since 26 minutes ago | 21:54 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 19:53 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus live news: crisis will push 60m into poverty, says World Bank chief → https://is.gd/fzVpNa | 22:00 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 20:02 UTC: (news): Coronavirus live updates: Trump says WHO must 'clean up' its act, VP Pence not taking hydroxychloroquine → https://is.gd/oI2bUQ | 22:07 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Nicaragua: +229 cases (now 254), +9 deaths (now 17) since 7 days ago — Rwanda: +11 cases (now 308) since a day ago — North Carolina, US: +144 cases (now 19844), +26 deaths (now 719) since an hour ago — US: +144 cases (now 1.6 million), +76 deaths (now 93033) since 25 minutes ago | 22:09 |
| bin_bash | %cases uk | 22:22 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Yemen: +37 cases (now 167), +8 deaths (now 28) since 23 hours ago — New York, US: +68 cases (now 362559), +4 deaths (now 28635) since 18 minutes ago — US: +68 cases (now 1.6 million), +4 deaths (now 93037) since 18 minutes ago — World: +105 cases (now 5.0 million), +12 deaths (now 323806) since 18 minutes ago | 22:22 |
| Brainstorm | bin_bash: In United Kingdom, there have been 248818 confirmed cases (0.4% of the population) and 35341 deaths (14.2% of cases) as of 2 hours ago. 2.2 million tests were performed (11.2% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=United%20Kingdom for time series data. | 22:22 |
| LjL | aradesh, https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=United%20Kingdom&cumulative=no&includeLive=yes look at the deaths graph, the weekly bouncing is quite obvious on the non-cumulative graph | 22:45 |
| aradesh | LjL: yeah i was just geting excited as it was lower | 22:50 |
| aradesh | it's because so many people pray on sunday ;) | 22:50 |
| LjL | aradesh, the trend is towards sloooowly lowering anyway, with some jittering (like today was actually worse than last week) | 22:50 |
| aradesh | our lowering is really slow... | 22:50 |
| LjL | aradesh, today we had "bad" number too, but yesterday we had "very good" numbers. clearly there's some carry-over | 22:50 |
| LjL | aradesh, it's slow deathwise. casewise, it's barely even there ;( | 22:51 |
| aradesh | yep... | 22:51 |
| aradesh | hard to know if that's because we're testing more now, or if it's just that... it's not really going down | 22:51 |
| aradesh | canada doesn't look great either | 22:52 |
| LjL | aradesh, you should be testing more *and* it should be going down, for it to be going well | 22:57 |
| LjL | i mean, for knowing | 22:57 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 20:53 UTC: President calls negative hydroxychloroquine study 'a Trump enemy statement' – live: Trump falsely claims hydroxychloroquine ‘doesn’t harm you’ Vice-president says he is not taking anti-malaria drug Trump says he’s taking hydroxychloroquine despite FDA warnings Strikes erupt as US essential workers demand [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/CuUhVd | 23:03 |
| aradesh | yeah but maybe we recently started testing more (we've been pushing to increase over the last month) | 23:04 |
| aradesh | trump's statement about hcq was so bizarre | 23:04 |
| aradesh | he went quiet about it for a while, as if his advisors had told him... no its not working | 23:05 |
| aradesh | and now suddenly this | 23:05 |
| bin_bash | you know everything would be a lot better if the media just stopped reporting what trump says | 23:05 |
| bin_bash | and does | 23:05 |
| aradesh | it's so silly. there is no reason it would work - it's generally used for lupus and malaria which are completely different types of diseases | 23:05 |
| aradesh | well he is the US president, you can't really do that. | 23:06 |
| bin_bash | you can actually | 23:06 |
| bin_bash | they just dont want to | 23:06 |
| aradesh | you can but probably shouldn't. | 23:06 |
| bin_bash | because they care about money, not news | 23:06 |
| bin_bash | if the news just like | 23:06 |
| bin_bash | stopped paying attention to him | 23:06 |
| bin_bash | he'd have a temper tantrum | 23:06 |
| LjL | aradesh, you have tested more, not consistently but you have | 23:06 |
| LjL | aradesh, there is also a graph about tests performed on the page, although it's off by four days or so | 23:07 |
| aradesh | they're not even viruses... | 23:07 |
| LjL | testing has been growing more than linearly | 23:07 |
| aradesh | why would anyone expect hcq to work on a virus? it's bizarre | 23:07 |
| aradesh | LjL: yeah | 23:07 |
| LjL | aradesh, i don't pretend to understand but some people were thinking it *could* work to an extent and they were reasonably serious researchers, not just trump. it's just that trump continued pushing it even after the promise it had shown was not kept | 23:08 |
| bin_bash | right but scientists arent saying that anymore | 23:08 |
| aradesh | yeah i'm curious who these people who thought it could work were | 23:09 |
| LjL | yeah | 23:09 |
| LjL | aradesh, researchers are throwing *anything* at it | 23:09 |
| aradesh | right at the start thunderf00t was saying the chance of it working is liking finding a winning lottery ticket in your trash. like finding that paracetamol cures aids or something | 23:09 |
| LjL | if it's slightly promising in vitro, they'll go with it | 23:09 |
| LjL | and i don't see how they'd be doing otherwise | 23:09 |
| aradesh | (he's a youtuber who i've been watching update vids on coronavirus about) | 23:09 |
| aradesh | -about | 23:10 |
| LjL | aradesh, if you're literally about to starve because you have zero money, then maybe you'll start paying a lot of attention to any piece of paper you find when you dumpster dive, in case it's a lottery ticket ;( | 23:10 |
| LjL | that's sort of the situation we're in, eh | 23:10 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 21:01 UTC: New York's coronavirus outbreak is back to where it started, Gov. Andrew Cuomo says: New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo said the state's coronavirus outbreak has slowed to levels not seen since the beginning of the pandemic as the number of fatalities, rate of new infections and the daily number of hospitalizations related to [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/ESrffr | 23:10 |
| aradesh | aye | 23:10 |
| tinwhiskers | It was first tried in China and although it may have been largely confirmation bias it looked like it was helping. It looked like we may have won the lottery | 23:10 |
| tinwhiskers | People do win the lottery after all | 23:12 |
| bin_bash | not in china | 23:12 |
| bin_bash | *bah-dum tssss* | 23:12 |
| LjL | aradesh, have a look at the treatments under trial here... https://www.biocentury.com/clinical-vaccines-and-therapies or rather, just scroll and see the length. but without even scrolling, one that catches my eye immediately is Ebastine, under phase IV for COVID (so... that means almost certainly effective, just final safety check, right?!). i know it because it's a common antihistamine i take. | 23:14 |
| LjL | all of these drugs have a clinical indication (or are under trial for one) that is *not* COVID | 23:14 |
| LjL | they are now additionally under clinical or preclinical trial in case they help with COVID | 23:15 |
| LjL | actually those are just the one under clinical trials. there's an almost equal amount in preclinical https://www.biocentury.com/preclinical-vaccines-and-therapies | 23:15 |
| tinwhiskers | I think it was being tried before any in vitro testing was done. It may have been that a doctor thought they noticed a correlation between case outcomes and use of hydroxychloroquine for other purposes, and then word spread. | 23:15 |
| LjL | tinwhiskers, i believe there was some earlier tentative evidence of antiviral activity "somehow somewhere" | 23:16 |
| LjL | not entirely sure | 23:16 |
| tinwhiskers | Ah, ok | 23:16 |
| LjL | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chloroquine#Antiviral | 23:16 |
| LjL | It increases late endosomal and lysosomal pH, resulting in impaired release of the virus from the endosome or lysosome – release of the virus requires a low pH. The virus is therefore unable to release its genetic material into the cell and replicate.[39][40] | 23:16 |
| LjL | Chloroquine also seems to act as a zinc ionophore that allows extracellular zinc to enter the cell and inhibit viral RNA-dependent RNA polymerase.[41][42] | 23:16 |
| LjL | the zinc thing gets mentioned often | 23:16 |
| tinwhiskers | Yeah | 23:16 |
| LjL | theoretically, zinc inside your cells would prevent the virus from replicating | 23:16 |
| bin_bash | in vitro testing? | 23:16 |
| LjL | but you can't get zinc inside your cells just by ingesting zinc | 23:17 |
| tinwhiskers | No | 23:17 |
| LjL | however, substances like chloroquine get the zinc into your cells | 23:17 |
| aradesh | the zinc thing sounds like BS too | 23:17 |
| LjL | and that explains why Trump said he's taking chloroquine *and* zinc | 23:17 |
| Brainstorm | New from CNBC Health at 21:11 UTC: Vaccine experts say Moderna didn't produce data critical to assessing Covid-19 vaccine: Heavy hearts soared Monday with news that Moderna's Covid-19 vaccine candidate — the frontrunner in the American market — seemed to be generating an immune response in Phase 1 trial subjects. → https://is.gd/QlnqzS | 23:17 |
| aradesh | if a bit of zinc dealt with viruses, we'd have evolved to keep zinc in our blood and crave zincy foods | 23:18 |
| tinwhiskers | aradesh: no the zinc thing has some merit | 23:18 |
| aradesh | billions of years of evolution isn'tg onna be defeated by a bit of zinc | 23:18 |
| aradesh | well maybe it's like... if you're a bit deficient in something from a poor diet, perhaps? | 23:18 |
| LjL | aradesh, i think the zinc thing makes sense, but one thing is making sense on paper and another is seeing if it actually does anything that you envisoned when inside the body | 23:18 |
| LjL | aradesh, if you put it that way then we should have evolved substances to deal with *every* virus | 23:19 |
| LjL | aradesh, the thing is any of these substances will probably cause problems for ourselves too | 23:19 |
| LjL | it's just, like many things in medicine | 23:19 |
| aradesh | the problem is, anything that interferes with how viruses affect your cells, also tends to interfere with other natural processes in your body too | 23:19 |
| LjL | when you're dying from a virus, you are willing to take things that are otherwise detrimental, if they kill the virus | 23:19 |
| LjL | aradesh, yes, that's definitely a problem, but it doesn't mean we simply *don't use* things that interfere with natural processes | 23:19 |
| aradesh | so if there was any hope that a bit of zinc was going to help, it would probably be an extremely poisonous thing to ingest | 23:20 |
| LjL | when required we use them a lot | 23:20 |
| LjL | then we sometimes use other things to counteract their bad effects | 23:20 |
| LjL | and... that sometimes results in | 23:20 |
| LjL | %wiki polypharmacy | 23:20 |
| Brainstorm | LjL, from English Wikipedia: Polypharmacy is the concurrent use of multiple medications by a patient. Polypharmacy is most common in the elderly, affecting about 40% of older adults living in their own homes. About 21% of adults with intellectual disability are also exposed to polypharmacy. Polypharmacy is not necessarily [... want %more?] → https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polypharmacy | 23:20 |
| LjL | which may not be great, but hey, again, if you're dying | 23:20 |
| aradesh | well i'm sceptical about zinc unless its like.. for some reason our diets mean we have less zinc than we should, and we have a deficiency damaging our immune system or something | 23:21 |
| aradesh | just again, seems too good to be true | 23:21 |
| aradesh | if having elevated zinc in our body dealt with viruses... surely evolution would have discovered it. | 23:21 |
| tinwhiskers | Zinc is quite an effective viral inhibitor but it's not usually present inside our cells. Hydroxychloroquine allows it to enter the cells at levels that affects viruses in vitro. It has merit. | 23:24 |
| tinwhiskers | It may well be that there are negative affects of having zinc inside your cells so we evolved to exclude it | 23:25 |
| tinwhiskers | But allowing it in for a short term *could* be beneficial. | 23:25 |
| tinwhiskers | You can't just dismiss an idea because "evolution would have found it if it worked". | 23:26 |
| aradesh | i guess time will tell. i did see a study that implied that HCQ with zinc did better than HCQ without zinc | 23:26 |
| aradesh | but i'm still sceptical until more comes out | 23:27 |
| tinwhiskers | Yeah. I'm not hopeful myself but there's enough reason to give it a try. | 23:27 |
| aradesh | tinwhiskers: not dismiss it, but certainly use it to give a very strong feeling of doubt | 23:27 |
| tinwhiskers | "the zinc thing sounds like BS too" | 23:28 |
| aradesh | well it does | 23:28 |
| aradesh | i'd say "sounds like BS" is pretty equivalent with a strong sense of doubt :D | 23:29 |
| tinwhiskers | There is a logical reason why it may work and it should be followed up. Saying it sounds like BS without understanding the reasons why it has merit *is* dismissing it. | 23:29 |
| nixonix | https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2020-05/bch-amo051420.php | 23:29 |
| nixonix | %title | 23:29 |
| Brainstorm | nixonix: From www.eurekalert.org: Accurate mapping of human travel patterns with global smartphone data | EurekAlert! Science News | 23:29 |
| aradesh | i'll leave that for the scientists to decide | 23:30 |
| aradesh | but i wouldn't be surprised if that was their general consensus too, is all i'm thinking. | 23:30 |
| tinwhiskers | Yes. Agreed | 23:30 |
| tinwhiskers | Maybe | 23:30 |
| aradesh | it's hard to know what their consensus is... there are so many dodgy and weird doctors coming along saying weird things over this virus | 23:31 |
| tinwhiskers | Clearly some scientists think it has merit and decided to look at it rather than dismiss it as looking like BS though | 23:31 |
| tinwhiskers | As you say, time will tell. | 23:31 |
| aradesh | i'll be happy to have my doubts proved wrong | 23:33 |
| Aces_HighBR | hello | 23:36 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 21:24 UTC: Coronavirus outbreak: Coronavirus Australia live news: NSW travel restrictions to be eased from 1 June – latest updates → https://is.gd/Wn6Trj | 23:38 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Guinea: +67 cases (now 2863), +2 deaths (now 18) since a day ago — Massachusetts, US: +873 cases (now 87925), +76 deaths (now 5938) since 22 hours ago — New Jersey, US: +927 cases (now 151014), +143 deaths (now 10591) since 20 hours ago — Brazil: +3351 cases (now 265896), +331 deaths (now 17840) since 4 hours ago | 23:50 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Guardian at 21:40 UTC: President calls negative hydroxychloroquine study 'a Trump enemy statement' – live: Trump falsely claims hydroxychloroquine ‘doesn’t harm you’ Vice-president says he is not taking anti-malaria drug Trump says he’s taking hydroxychloroquine despite FDA warnings Strikes erupt as US essential workers demand [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/CuUhVd | 23:53 |
| Arsanerit | Can the news media please declare a boycott on any Trump related for the next 3 months? The man is not worth any attention. | 23:57 |
| ryouma | it can indeed be a distraction (unless it moves the bulletin of the atomic scientists journal clock closer to midnight) | 23:59 |
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