| plasma41 | Centurion_Dan: The version of util-linux in ascii is devuanized, but the version in ascii-security is not. Furthermore the ascii-security version AFAICT build-depends on systemd. | 00:37 |
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| Centurion_Dan | o/ | 01:08 |
| Centurion_Dan | plasma41: ok... I wonder when that dropped... | 01:09 |
| qiancai | golinux: trying to upgrade to unstable but failed to setup eudev. Is that a known issue? | 02:28 |
| qiancai | Said /etc/init.d/udev not found | 02:29 |
| golinux | I am definitely not the one to try to answer that. I always run stable often through LTS. | 02:31 |
| golinux | But the obvious question is how did you get to there. | 02:32 |
| qiancai | Upgrading from ascii to unstable | 02:32 |
| qiancai | Apt-get dist-upgrade | 02:33 |
| golinux | In devuan you must use the <release codename> not stable, testing, unstable | 02:33 |
| Centurion_Dan | qiancai: what's the fail message | 02:33 |
| qiancai | Yes, I used ceres | 02:34 |
| golinux | in your sources.list | 02:34 |
| Centurion_Dan | golinux: unstable is fine - it never changes... | 02:34 |
| golinux | ? That's not what has been repeated everywhere over and over to always use the <release codename> | 02:35 |
| Centurion_Dan | testing/stable links change over time resulting in potential upgrade breakages which is why we don't recommend it. | 02:35 |
| qiancai | invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/udev not found | 02:35 |
| golinux | Can you even go to ceres without going through beowulf? | 02:36 |
| Centurion_Dan | golinux: actually ceres is the symlink - not sure why that is opposite to all the other suites, but that's the way it is... | 02:36 |
| Centurion_Dan | a legacy from when nextime first set up dak and the ci system. | 02:36 |
| qiancai | Right, let me try beowulf first | 02:37 |
| qiancai | Right, let me try beowulf first | 02:37 |
| Centurion_Dan | qiancai: hmm, that's a bug... will be the same in beowulf... | 02:37 |
| golinux | qiancai: Before you do that here needs to be some pinning done | 02:37 |
| golinux | here > there | 02:37 |
| Centurion_Dan | qiancai: did you orginally migrate from debian or was it a new stretch install?? | 02:38 |
| golinux | There are newer pkgs in ascii than in ceres. Or there were | 02:38 |
| qiancai | Centurion_Dan: new install | 02:38 |
| golinux | Centurion_Dan: Does there still need to be pinning? | 02:39 |
| Centurion_Dan | I think KatolaZ was talking about eudev being out of date in unstable... | 02:39 |
| golinux | fsr has a writeup in d1g | 02:39 |
| Centurion_Dan | golinux: not that I know off, I think that was something fsmithred had been doing to prevent breakages for his live desktops... | 02:39 |
| golinux | https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=12408#p12408 | 02:41 |
| Centurion_Dan | qiancai: unstable has a newer version... https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/d1pkgweb-query?search=eudev&release=any | 02:43 |
| Centurion_Dan | I think it's a bug... let me check the sources... | 02:43 |
| qiancai | Same error message in testing, but it allows me to continue without file. | 02:44 |
| golinux | They are currently working on sorting elongind | 02:44 |
| Centurion_Dan | qiancai: ok.. there is already a patched version in the works, but it FTBFS (actually it built ok, but the upload failed. I'll take a look now and see if I can fix it for unstable... | 02:47 |
| qiancai | It seems boot unstable fine in a VM here without udev daemon | 02:47 |
| Centurion_Dan | it's probably still running the old eudev package from ascii. | 02:58 |
| qiancai | hmm, it said only 3.2.5-1 installed. I did reboot the vm after upgrading. | 03:06 |
| qiancai | I probably don't have much hardware events going on here. | 03:07 |
| qiancai | golinux: I just confirmed that runc is useless without systemd. | 03:22 |
| qiancai | Need to put runc in banned file I guess. | 03:22 |
| qiancai | runc run root | 03:23 |
| qiancai | container_linux.go:348: starting container process caused "process_linux.go:279: applying cgroup configuration for process caused \"mountpoint for cgroup not found\"" | 03:23 |
| qiancai | Then, all the docker thingy are useless without runc. | 03:26 |
| qiancai | # apt-cache search docker | 03:28 |
| qiancai | cockpit-docker - Cockpit user interface for Docker containers | 03:28 |
| qiancai | debocker - docker-powered package builder for Debian | 03:28 |
| qiancai | docker - transitional package | 03:28 |
| qiancai | docker-compose - Punctual, lightweight development environments using Docker | 03:28 |
| qiancai | docker-doc - Linux container runtime -- documentation | 03:28 |
| qiancai | docker-registry - Docker toolset to pack, ship, store, and deliver content | 03:28 |
| qiancai | docker-swarm - Docker's native clustering system | 03:28 |
| qiancai | docker.io - Linux container runtime | 03:28 |
| golinux | Someone here was working on docker for Devuan | 03:29 |
| golinux | Let me go search that info | 03:29 |
| golinux | qiancai: ^^^ | 03:29 |
| qiancai | golinux: that would be great to see how that goes. | 03:34 |
| golinux | qiancai: This covers two topics in one! https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20181028.052412.d0350ae6.en.html | 03:38 |
| qiancai | golinux: sorry, I actually get runc working by manually mount cgroup first where it did not mount by default in Devuan where it mount by default in Debian I remember. | 03:38 |
| golinux | Why are you apologizing? | 03:39 |
| qiancai | I misspoke it should in the banned list. | 03:40 |
| golinux | There is a link to a docker image for devuan in that thread. Also discusses upgrading to ceres. | 03:40 |
| golinux | OK. | 03:40 |
| golinux | Our filter catches everything that won't work on Devuan and creates the list. | 03:41 |
| qiancai | Anyway, the topic is about Devuan docker image. interesting to know. I am looking into how container basic tools working in Devuan. | 03:41 |
| qiancai | checking the source code sounds right. | 03:42 |
| Centurion_Dan | qiancai: if you upgraded to beowulf, you probably got the systemd infested version from debian. | 06:36 |
| Centurion_Dan | of eudev | 06:37 |
| Centurion_Dan | qiancai: if you want cgroups in Devuan, you probably want to install cgmanager, cgroup-mountfs and cgroup-tools | 06:39 |
| Centurion_Dan | There is a packaging issue with eudev from unstable - best course of action would be to downgrade to the version from ascii until I can get it fixed | 06:40 |
| Centurion_Dan | KatolaZ - eudev for unstable is a mess... looks like you meged ontop of what was originally for jessie release (but from unstable obviously) but it missed entirely the later updates that went into ascii - they should also have been merged onto unstable (or technically the other way around)... | 07:54 |
| Centurion_Dan | before the latest updates were applied ... | 07:55 |
| KatolaZ | nope Centurion_Dan | 09:24 |
| KatolaZ | I used the version that was already in unstable | 09:24 |
| KatolaZ | I didn't merge anything | 09:25 |
| KatolaZ | I just made a small patch in whatever was already in unstable | 09:25 |
| Centurion_Dan | yeah, but unstable didn't have all the patches from ascii... | 10:10 |
| Centurion_Dan | I'll see if I can tidy it up and rebase - otherwise we'll just have to walk it back with a forced push... | 10:13 |
| KatolaZ | Centurion_Dan: ok | 10:23 |
| Centurion_Dan | actually just had a pm from gnu_srs, he's keen to do it next week... | 10:24 |
| Centurion_Dan | in the meantime we can just build the ascii version for unstable & beowulf. | 10:25 |
| Centurion_Dan | The one reporter can force downgrade until we have the newer package... | 10:25 |
| Centurion_Dan | I | 10:34 |
| Centurion_Dan | I'll sort building ascii version in unstable and beowulf in the morning.. | 10:35 |
| Centurion_Dan | bed time now o/ | 10:35 |
| LeePen | kilobyte: are you here? | 12:38 |
| Ryushin | Anyone running ceres? The new grub packages drop to a grub prompt on boot. I'm suspecting it it from grub-efi-amd64-signed. I had to roll back to the previous version of grub in order for it to work again. | 12:51 |
| LeePen | kilobyte: I have to go out for a while, but I think I have traced the elogind daemon. | 13:26 |
| LeePen | segfault. | 13:26 |
| LeePen | kilobyte: http://ix.io/1qTO | 13:27 |
| kilobyte | LeePen: confirmed -- starts fine now | 17:58 |
| LeePen | kilobyte: Great, thanks. Do you have any thoughts on whether that is the best fix? | 20:12 |
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