libera/#devuan-dev/ Monday, 2020-08-31

sinetekhi folks, i've been using ZFS + devuan for a few months now, and it requires one patch to `zfs-linux` by default to work well with devuan.  i'd like to get this merged in the project, is this something that's possible?05:08
sinetekthe issue is from upstream as they removed the openrc init file, and hard blocked openrc05:09
sinetekzfs itself works with openrc, it's used in Gentoo. and installing works OK but it removes openrc.05:12
rrqsinetek: you're alking about zfsutils-linux ?05:25
sinetekyes!05:27
rrqwhat does "hard blocked openrc" mean ?05:27
sinetekok what i'm asking is 2 things:05:28
sinetek1) in debian/control,   there's  "Breaks: openrc,"05:28
sinetek205:28
sinetek2)  in debian/patches/series,  the first patch can be enabled for the openrc file05:29
rrqah; the chimaera (unstable) version05:29
sinetekcorrect, i don't run the stable devuan, i assume it's the same-ish05:30
rrqthe beowulf version 0.7.12-2+deb10u2 doesn't claim "Breaks: openrc"05:31
sinetektechnically 'ceres' is what i tested and run this on05:31
sinetek0.7.12-2+deb10u2 is way too old, the current in ceres is 0.8.4, that one has support for encryption.05:31
rrqright. while LeePen counts sheep, I'll make his point: zfsutil-linux is not forked. Perhaps you'd be in a position to maintain such?05:33
sinetekabsolutely05:33
rrq(then he points to some useful instructions... I'll see if I can find them)05:33
sineteksounds good, pointers is exactly what i was hoping to get, and i'm fine maintaining it05:34
rrqhttps://git.devuan.org/devuan/documentation/src/branch/master/maintainers05:34
rrqLeePen's hours start at about 2 hours from now, and then we try to have him in work for about 18 hours when possible05:38
rrqplus overtime when needed ;)05:39
sinetekwhoa05:39
rrqwell, not really, but that's about his timezone05:41
LeePensinetek: Do you know why the openrc patch has been disabled in Debian?10:37
LeePenThis sounds like  something Debian should fix.10:37
JorilSorry, how much delay is there (on average) between Debian releasing a security fix and Devuan mirrors getting it? I'm looking at Thunderbird 68.12.0 on security.debian.org released on the 29th, for example10:50
LeePenJoril: should be the next amprolla run for pkgmaster.d.o. Then it depends on how often your mirror syncs.10:58
JorilLeePen: I was looking directly at http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/dists/beowulf-security/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz and it's still missing the Thunderbird update... I'll wait, I guess :) Thanks!11:15
LeePenIf you are in a rush you should be able to install the debs directly from Debian's pool.11:19
JorilLeePen: good to know, thanks again!11:20

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