| mason | golinux: I'm up for one. I don't think dinner will be in the way. | 00:33 |
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| golinux | mason: Excellent! | 00:49 |
| Xenguy | mason: Just saw your note about unbound, and am feeling disappointed. Are their devs systemd fans? Is there a problem upstream, and if so is there anything we can do to encourage init freedom there? | 01:03 |
| Xenguy | (Just when I was getting to like unbound) | 01:04 |
| mason | Xenguy: I wouldn't think so since they run on different platforms. They have reason for wanting to chown the PID. I just don't think it's hugely compelling. | 02:26 |
| mason | There are other ways they could do it. | 02:27 |
| Xenguy | No idea, I just hope I can continue to run unbound without issues | 02:28 |
| mason | Xenguy: I did a sample build for fsmithred that chopped out the chown, and it worked fine. The thing it can't do is restart itself and rewrite its own PIDfile if it doesn't own it, so it'd have to be restarted via the init script | 02:31 |
| Xenguy | Huh, sounds workable then | 02:31 |
| mason | Without that bit chopped out, it will have problems stopping or restarting. Options: 1) we rebuild to turn off the chown, or 2) we repackage to tell it not to use a PIDfile at all, and manage it externally with start-stop-daemon's built-in PIDfile management. | 02:32 |
| Xenguy | Is it possible to work with upstream? | 02:32 |
| fsmithred | am I using that? | 02:32 |
| mason | fsmithred: You tried it anyway. Not sure if you're still using it. | 02:32 |
| fsmithred | in beowulf or chimaera? | 02:33 |
| mason | Ooh, dunno. I emailed you patched packages on September 9th, and they'd have been built against Beowulf. | 02:34 |
| mason | I assume Beowulf. | 02:34 |
| fsmithred | the unbound init script is from May | 02:35 |
| mason | I have to say, though, I switched over to BIND and am quite happy with it. It's just as good in this role as it is as a public nameserver. | 02:35 |
| mason | fsmithred: I didn't change the script. The binary needed the chown patched out. | 02:35 |
| mason | It was only after that I noticed start-stop-daemon having its own functionality. | 02:35 |
| mason | be back presently - birthday singing/cake time for the freshly-minted seven-year-old | 02:36 |
| fsmithred | :) | 02:36 |
| bgstack15 | Devuan meet is still happening tomorrow, Thursday, November 26 at 20:30 UTC. https://pad.dyne.org/code/#/2/code/edit/lXtiLwqWoq3YpPtYI7B6VLpJ/ | 14:53 |
| Xenguy | bgstack15: Wish I could make those meetings, but FWIW I do read your fine meeting notes : -) | 14:56 |
| bgstack15 | Oh, I just send them out. I don't take the notes. | 14:57 |
| bgstack15 | I usually don't fully understand the topics. | 14:57 |
| Xenguy | Suppose I could contribute to the pad if need be too, even though I can't make the actual meetings | 14:57 |
| Xenguy | Well the contribution is appreciated in any case | 14:57 |
| fsmithred | secret: Nobody fully understands the topics. | 15:02 |
| Xenguy | fsmithred: shh, don't tell everyone | 15:14 |
| fsmithred | that's why I said it in this channel | 15:14 |
| Xenguy | hahah | 15:14 |
| fsmithred | only the elite know | 15:14 |
| Xenguy | ahem, 4337 | 15:15 |
| Xenguy | 1337 ? | 15:15 |
| fsmithred | yeah, the lower number | 15:15 |
| Xenguy | gotta run, seize the day | 15:15 |
| bgstack15 | I'm definitely not 1337 enough to be part of the 4337 group. | 15:15 |
| fsmithred | same here | 15:15 |
| fsmithred | lol | 15:16 |
| Xenguy | haha | 15:16 |
| Xenguy | secret: me neither | 15:16 |
| fsmithred | first time I saw that number I thought it was a drug reference | 15:16 |
| onefang | "CryptPad needs localStorage to work. Try changing your cookie permissions, or using a different browser" WTF, same browser I always used, Firefox-ESR. | 16:01 |
| onefang | And it's already using localStorage from the last time I loaded the pad. | 16:04 |
| bgstack15 | maybe your cache got busted? | 16:11 |
| bgstack15 | I use palemoon and it operates just fine with CryptPad. | 16:11 |
| bgstack15 | But then I think I'm logged in. | 16:11 |
| onefang | Palemoon gave me exactly the same error. | 16:13 |
| onefang | Chromium works. | 16:15 |
| onefang | It's OK, I have 256 GB of RAM in my new super desktop for a reason. I can run three different web browsers and half a dozen messaging clients all at once now. lol | 16:44 |
| onefang | Though due to the "be quiet!" PSU not being quiet for the last week, not gonna actually be at any video meetings for a while. | 16:45 |
| onefang | Not happy about yet another chance to be without computer for a month while PSU ships around the world to be fixed. Now both me and the PU are whining. lol | 16:48 |
| onefang | *PSU are whining* | 16:48 |
| onefang | One of these days everything will be fixed with this new super destkop, and I can just relax and do shit with it. | 16:48 |
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