libera/#devuan/ Saturday, 2022-04-30

FilipZHi! I have a problem with my middle mouse button randomly ceasing to work. Of course I checked, and it isn't an issue connected to the specific mouse. What could cause the issue, how could I find it out and then fix it?02:25
gnarfacefirst you gotta figure out what sequence of events is actually causing it02:29
gnarfaceit's unlikely to be actually random02:29
gnarfacemaybe a bug in libinput or xorg or some gui mouse configuration tool you're loading by default?02:30
gnarfaceit's not something i've ever seen happen, but if it only changes on reboot or login or something like that, that could be a clue02:30
gnarfacealso make sure you test with more than one program, it could just be a bug in that one program02:31
gnarfacexev is good test tool02:31
FilipZI think that it might be somehow locked by something after changing the active windows.02:32
gnarfacemaybe one of the window manager specific tools02:33
gnarface...for whatever window manager you're using02:33
FilipZI am not using any additional mouse configuration tool. I am using the default for a Chimaera.02:33
gnarfacei don't know that it doesn't have one02:33
FilipZSorry. An Xfce.02:34
gnarfacei don't use xfce either but some people around here do, maybe one of them knows and can tell you if you hang around02:34
gnarfaceanother option would be to try to specify the mouse button configuration manually in xorg.conf, which should disable auto-detection to avoid misbehavior in xorg auto-detection02:35
gnarfacebut at this point i can't be sure exactly what to place the blame on02:35
gnarfacenext time it stops behaving, fire up xev and see if xev can see the button anymore or not02:36
rwp+1 for xev checking if input is being received.  Because this really sounds like a mouse button problem.  (My middle button is getting flaky.)04:37
rwpI have a Banana Pi that I want to install Devuan upon.  I find:  https://files.devuan.org/devuan_ascii/embedded/ but nothing newer than ASCII.07:44
rwpAm I looking in the right place?07:44
rwpI also know about https://deb.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/installer-armhf/current/images/netboot/SD-card-images/07:44
rwpWhich does have a current image.  And can install it and migrate it from Debian to Devuan.07:44
rwpI am heading down that path for lack of knowing anything better.07:45
Jjp137I don't know much about ARM but maybe ask #devuan-arm?07:57
Jjp137if you haven't already07:57
rwpGood idea!  I'll ask over there.  Thanks!08:01
Guest145Howdy!  Does anyone happen to have pointers to a tutorial that explains how I'd go about getting a "new-style daemon" (i.e. one written _specifically_ for systemd/libsystemd) to work on Devuan?21:33
debiankaiosGuest145, what do you mean21:49
debiankaiosi thought on devuan runs no systemd21:51
debiankaioson mine not so far i know21:51
Guest145Exactly...  but I want to run a service (rust-u2f), which was built to run *with* systemd.21:53
Guest145I'm guessing this is likely not the first or only "new-style" daemon.  So, someone must have figured out how to run those **without** systemd.21:55
Guest145"failed to get LISTEN_PID: environment variable not found"21:55
Guest145I guess. O21:55
Guest145Trying to search for the error doesn't turn up anything useful...21:57
Guest145The daemon(s) do(es) have an option that is likely the key to fixing this:21:59
Guest145-s, --socket <path>    Bind to specified socket path instead of file-descriptor from systemd21:59
Guest145I'm just not sure how to use that...22:00
debiankaiosok22:13
debiankaiosi don't know it to22:13
debiankaiosbecause i use only what aviable is22:14
rwpGuest145 has part'd already but it sounds like it might have been a good match for running under inetd/xinetd given the description.23:50

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