| gnarface | not sure exactly... i think uninstalling then reinstalling all the xserver* and xorg* dependencies might do it, but you might also be able to just remove that legacy package and remove the setuid bit on one binary instead | 00:00 |
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| gnarface | probably easy to try the latter then resort to the former if it fails | 00:00 |
| gnarface | maybe someone has already made a write up somewhere | 00:00 |
| gnarface | oh, it'd be actually logging to ~/.local/share/xorg/ to be specific, sorry | 00:06 |
| onefang | Just a reminder, todays the day for my sledjhamr.org server move. Due to start in two and a half hours. So avoid using it's package and file mirror for eight hours after that. | 01:37 |
| xisop | ah, i have to figure out how to see installed packages with apt.. i always forget that command | 02:43 |
| xisop | gnarface: i have: xserver-xorg-legacy/stable-security,now 2:1.20.11-1+deb11u3 amd64 [installed,automatic] | 02:44 |
| gnarface | you can see installed packages with dpkg -l | 02:45 |
| xisop | i used `apt list --installed`, but i like that shorter version | 02:45 |
| xisop | oh, and it's better output :) | 02:45 |
| fifiopenbsd | It's nearly 2am in England, and only #devuan and #python is active on my irc :( | 02:53 |
| debdog | that'd be interesting if it'd be about #montypython :P | 02:55 |
| debdog | SCNR | 02:56 |
| fifiopenbsd | ;d | 03:01 |
| pungentweasel | if i had a dime for every time I fat-fingered "rebooty" in the terminal .... :| | 04:58 |
| debdog | recycled booty? | 05:08 |
| pungentweasel | they prefer the term promiscuous | 05:11 |
| * pungentweasel alias rebooty='reboot' | 05:15 | |
| onefang | sledjhamr.org's Devuan mirrors are back up, but looks like they haven't hooked up IPv6 yet. | 11:59 |
| u-amarsh04 | thanks onefang, downloading from sledjhamr.org now | 12:09 |
| onefang | You where hanging out for it to get back? | 12:12 |
| ravehaver9000 | hello chat | 12:59 |
| ravehaver9000 | i wonder if i can mix packages from ceres into daedalus (for now) | 13:00 |
| ravehaver9000 | this is because i want to get claws mail from the repository, but its not in daedalus, only the stable versions and ceres | 13:01 |
| ravehaver9000 | ive also had some issues building it from source, so it'd be nice to have claws mail in daedalus' repository | 13:02 |
| ravehaver9000 | to be honest i have this kinda feeling its because of debian's repo mantainers though | 13:02 |
| u-amarsh04 | I've had stable, testing, unstable and experimental in my /etc/apt/sources.list and set the preference for unstable, but it's a long time since I set the preferencing and forget the details | 13:12 |
| ravehaver9000 | i see | 13:13 |
| ravehaver9000 | thanks! | 13:13 |
| sixwheeledbeast | claws has CVE's outstanding in most versions but sid | 13:13 |
| u-amarsh04 | man 5 apt_preferences may be your friend | 13:15 |
| nfvblog | hi | 19:09 |
| gnstaxo | Hello, is Ceres the rolling release version? | 22:53 |
| gnarface | gnstaxo: yes, although debian upstream will denounce the use of that terminology to describe it | 22:55 |
| gnarface | they will cite some semantic differences then pretend it's nothing of the sort and refuse to clarify further questioning, but i know what you mean and the answer is: "basically, yes" | 22:55 |
| gnstaxo | hahah ok, thanks dude | 22:57 |
| gnarface | no problem | 22:58 |
| gnstaxo | Why is there not an ISO of it on the mirrors? | 23:01 |
| gnarface | there's just not, there isn't upstream at debian either usually, except for unofficial (jenkins?) builds | 23:03 |
| gnarface | just upgrade from a minimal chimaera install, or if you're feeling brave test out one of the daedalus pre-release isos | 23:03 |
| gnarface | safest approach is same as it would be for debian though, install a minimal stable install then upgrade to testing then upgrade to unstable | 23:04 |
| gnarface | (chimaera is stable and daedalus is testing) | 23:04 |
| gnarface | afaik debian doesn't usually even furnish testing isos but it's been a while since i actually looked | 23:05 |
| gnarface | if you really want to skip the upgrade process i would recommend a debootstrap install | 23:06 |
| gnarface | (i can help with that if you don't know how) | 23:06 |
| gnstaxo | I'm actually new to the debian world, I'm gonna learn more before attempting to make my devuan rolling release | 23:07 |
| gnarface | oh, well may i recommend the excellent live images | 23:07 |
| gnstaxo | Because I'm using peppermint rn | 23:07 |
| gnarface | the live images are a great way to test for compatibility and "kick the tires" on some of the software, and you can easily do a debootstrap install from one | 23:08 |
| gnarface | if you're new though, note that we do recommend using stable and staying far away from the unstable branch because upstream regularly breaks it on purpose | 23:09 |
| gnarface | for most people's purposes, the stuff in stable backports should suffice for any newer software needs | 23:10 |
| gnstaxo | My conn dropped. So as I was saying. I'm new to debian since I'm an Arch user. So I installed peppermint to practice before going minimalist mode | 23:30 |
| gnarface | this is all i said after your last message: https://paste.debian.net/1264082/ | 23:32 |
| gnstaxo | thanks | 23:36 |
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