libera/#devuan/ Tuesday, 2023-03-14

jjakobI've been using lsb-invalid-mta on older debian/ubuntu to satisfy mail-transport-agent so that I can install my own patched "dma" from source10:44
jjakobit's not available later than in ascii10:44
jjakobafter installing it I removed and replaced the symlink to dma10:46
jjakobcan I install lsb-invalid-mta from ascii on chimaera or would it be better to patch and compile a dma deb package10:47
jjakobinstalled lsb-invalid-mta from ascii on chimaera, now to dpkg-divert /usr/sbin/sendmail, I remember I did that10:54
gnarfaceyou're supposed to recompile it, but if it works it might not matter11:21
stefeda123Hi, anyone is experiencing random xserver crashes after daedalus updated xserver-xorg-core to 21.1.7-1? It seems somewhat related to bug #742, but suggestions there do not apply to me. I can reliably crash the server by doing some mouse clicks here and there....15:24
gnarfacenothing like that yet here. it crashed once on me while idle but it might have been due to a preexisting enlightenment bug15:27
stefeda123I have submitted  bug #751 for that,hope moderators will let it go through. I have reinstalled all packages just to clear any corrupted files, (the HDD is very recent though, don't think anything is corrupt there) but problem persists.15:29
gnarfacei'm curious if it still happens if you disable seatd15:32
gnarface"server terminated successfully" kinda makes it sound like you're clicking on the exit button though15:33
stefeda123No i definitely did not click any exit button. It often crashes when resizing a window. The only thing i can think of is if the crash starts from the window manager...15:36
stefeda123i have tried to uninstall seatd and /or switching backend to login with LIBSEAT_BACKEND. no change.15:36
stefeda123*switching backend to logind*15:37
stefeda123definitely the problem appeared as soon as xserver-xorg-core went to 21.1.7-115:39
stefeda123will try to use a different wm15:41
stefeda123gnarface: the crash seems not due to xserver but to the window manager. I have updated bug #751, it should be routed to the fvwm maintainer. I have attached the debugger backtrace. so yes, the server terminates normally...16:05
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