libera/#devuan/ Saturday, 2023-03-25

systemdletefsmithred, if you are around:  The refracta installer is asking for partition to install to.  But the raid partition I created is not listed.01:00
systemdleteSorry, I have forgotten what to do with this.01:00
systemdleteThanks if you (or anyone else) can reply.01:00
systemdleteThis is the chimaera version.01:01
brocashelmif anyone is interested, want to test the gtk3-classic + gtk3-filechooser-icon-view patches builds of libgtk-3-0? might apply more towards daedalus/ceres users, but this makes gtk3's filechooser look more "traditional" and the icon view is properly resized01:04
brocashelmbgstack15 uploaded them to his obs repo and i am testing them at the moment with no issues so far. would like some extra input on this to see if it should be an additional devuan/debian package (whichever comes first)01:05
brocashelmhere's the url: https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/home:bgstack15:gtk3-classic/gtk3-classic?rev=1301:06
brocashelmunlike gtk3-nocsd, the filechooser icon view patch must be included on the full build of gtk3, rather than as a standalone lib01:06
fsmithredsystemdlete, you have to use the cli installer and you have to type in the names of the volumes01:07
fsmithredI;ll get a link to instructions01:08
fsmithredhttps://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=232301:08
brocashelmi figured since gtk3 is now in maintenance mode, we should not expect to see a whole lot of new changes with it, so for those who don't want to "move along" to gtk4, this would be a great time to fork gtk301:09
AzumaHazukiit feels like gtk3 is still in beta01:13
AzumaHazukiand now it's in "maintenance mode?" jesus01:14
AzumaHazukii've been porting a lot of gtk*2* themes to LXQt to try and preserve *some* semblance of culture01:14
brocashelmmeaning it rarely ever updates nowadays01:14
brocashelmso we should expect to rebuild less often from here on out01:14
brocashelmi try to go for gtk2 whenever possible01:15
brocashelmazumahazuki: if you need some good dark themes to port over, i recommend artix-dark01:15
AzumaHazukiinteresting, i'll go look at it now :)01:16
AzumaHazukido you mean the default theme of the Artix livecds?01:16
brocashelmi don't think it's default01:16
brocashelmhold on, let me get you the gitea repo01:16
brocashelmhttps://gitea.artixlinux.org/artix/artix-dark-theme01:17
brocashelmit's quite good and it would make for an awesome deb package for those who don't care for the many generic adwaita themes01:17
brocashelmit also works well with openbox01:18
AzumaHazukiyeah, this is the default Artix live session theme01:18
AzumaHazukithis appears to be Vertex-Dark with a skewed color palette01:18
XenguyAzumaHazuki: Mind a quick PM?01:31
AzumaHazukisure01:33
systemdletefsmithred, update-initramfs -u says that it is disabled (due to a missing mount?)01:46
systemdleteI have tried to follow your instructions exactly.  It is possible I missed something.01:46
gnarfacemissing what mount?01:48
systemdletesays nothing mounted on  /run/live/medium01:49
systemdleteoh, gnarface.  I am doing a refracta install01:49
systemdletejust fyi01:49
systemdleteso this is not the case where one is updating the ramfs01:49
gnarfaceit must be related to that then, i've got no idea what /run/live/medium is supposed to be doing01:49
systemdletewell, thanks for trying to help anyway.01:50
systemdletefsmithred, when I back out of the chroot, and look at the /run file system it is mounted read-only.  (which makes sense).  I did not remount /run before entering chroot.01:55
AzumaHazukivertex-dark theme for lxqt in process...might be able tofinish it. and if i do, then an Artix variant will be fairly easy to make, @Xenguy02:32
AzumaHazukiand brocashelm02:32
Wonkahttps://twitter.com/intel/status/163941874024386150402:39
fsmithredsystemdlete, do you have live-tools insalled? If so, then update-initramfs has been diverted and you would need to either remove live-tools or run update-initramfs.original (or whatever it's really called)03:07
fsmithredupdate-initramfs.orig.initramfs-tools -u -k all03:08
AzumaHazukithis is coming along really well so far, brocashelm03:09
brocashelmnice03:40
systemdletefsmithred, I have not installed anything.  I booted off live, created the partitions using gparted from the cmd line, then invoked refractainstaller -d.  I took all the defaults and paused when I got to the prompt, fired up a new shell and ran the steps you gave in the tutorial04:06
systemdleteIt all worked fine until I got to the update-initramfs step.04:06
systemdleteIn fact, I don't even have an internet connection from the computer I am installing to.04:07
AzumaHazukiokay, i do believe i have a working Vertex-Dark theme...05:16
AzumaHazukibrocashelm, still here? https://github.com/AzumaHazuki/lxqt-themes-vertex05:22
systemdletefsmithred, running that original update-initramfs program seems to be working.   But I did not have to remove live-tools (because I never installed it).05:50
systemdleteBut I did get one error and one warning.  ERROR was couldn't resolve device overlay.   WARNING was couldn't determine root device.05:52
systemdletethe program exited $? = 0, so I am guessing it is OK05:52
systemdletefsmithred, had to redo because I gave the wrong boot disk.  What were the steps again?  (That link you gave, or if anyone else here still has it in their scroll history; I'm on libera webchat)06:05
systemdleteah, I found it again...06:08
user007how can I take a server from http://deb.devuan.org/mirror_list.txt and write it into sources.list13:49
user007for example this one: mishka.snork.ca/devuan, I got error messages:  The repository 'https://mishka.snork.ca/devuan chimaera Release' does not have a Release file.13:52
onefangStarting with the mirror at the top of that list, which is mine, in your sources.list replace "deb.devuan.org" with "sledjhamr.org/devuan", which is the "BaseURL" field in that document.13:52
user007onefang, can you paste your sources.list ?13:52
onefangdeb https://sledjhamr.org/devuan/merged chimaera main contrib non-free13:53
onefang13:53
onefangdeb https://sledjhamr.org/devuan/merged chimaera-security main contrib non-free13:53
onefang13:53
onefangdeb https://sledjhamr.org/devuan/merged chimaera-updates main contrib non-free13:53
onefang13:53
onefangdeb https://sledjhamr.org/devuan/devuan chimaera-proposed main contrib non-free13:53
onefang13:53
onefangdeb https://sledjhamr.org/devuan/merged chimaera-backports main contrib non-free13:53
onefang13:53
onefang13:53
onefangOops, too much white space.  lol13:53
user007onefang, why there are both /devuan/merged and  devuan/devuan ?13:54
user007I need both ?13:54
onefangIf you want chimaera-proposed, not if you don't need that.13:55
onefangAh snork isn't here right now, so can't tell you about their mirror.13:56
onefang deb https://mishka.snork.ca/devuan/merged chimaera main contrib non-free13:56
onefangAnd similar to that is what you would need.13:57
user007ok. let me try. I am perplexed looking at a messed up sources.list.13:57
onefangIn my case the /devuan/ part is coz I have other things on that server in other directories.  /devuan-cd/ for example has the Devuan ISO images.13:58
user007onefang, so I assume if I can restore the original (mint) sources.list, and just replace the url from the mirror list, that will work?14:00
onefangUsing that BaseURL as I said.14:00
onefang deb https://mishka.snork.ca/devuan/merged chimaera main contrib non-free14:00
onefangLike that if you want to use that mirror.14:00
onefangThough you can leave off contrib and non-free if you don't want those.14:01
onefangSo the bare minimum would be -14:02
onefangdeb https://mishka.snork.ca/devuan/merged chimaera main contrib non-free14:02
onefangOOps.  lol14:02
onefangdeb https://mishka.snork.ca/devuan/merged chimaera main14:03
onefangdeb https://mishka.snork.ca/devuan/merged chimaera-security main14:03
onefangdeb https://mishka.snork.ca/devuan/merged chimaera-updates main14:03
user007onefang, BaseURL:  sledjhamr.org/devuan     so I just add  "merged" at the end ?14:04
onefangYep.14:04
user007onefang, I appreciate it. I wonder why there isn't a generator for sources.list or I just messed up my original sources.list so I didn't do a simple Find and Replace work14:07
onefangI think a mirror chooser is on it's way and being tested now.14:07
user007sounds great. Thank you.14:07
onefangYou are welcome.14:08
AzumaHazukibrocashelm, I've updated the Vertex repo to include a Light variant :) still trying to figure out where I'd upload the Artix version once i do it. think Artix itself would be interested if they had, like, an LXQt spin?18:51
brocashelmazumahazuki: you can try creating an account on their gitea.artixlinux.org site, or maybe ask in #artix19:00
AzumaHazukiooh, okay19:01
brocashelmthey do have lxqt isos19:01
brocashelmso your contributions would be very appreciated by them19:01
AzumaHazukido you know what theme they currently use on their lxqt iso?19:01
brocashelmgood question. i'll fire up a vm in a bit19:02
AzumaHazukilol, someone's latest commit to the presets has "fuck GTK3" as the commit description :D couldn't agree more, what a clownshow19:07
AzumaHazukiokay, so the preset is to use the System theme and Breeze-Dark icons I think?19:08
brocashelmazumahazuki: it just says "system" here19:09
AzumaHazukiah, they're using qt5's ability to pull the gtk2 theme to do theming. Clever!19:10
brocashelmartix-dark still19:10
brocashelmaccording to neofetch19:10
brocashelmboth wm and de19:10
AzumaHazukithey don't actually need an LXQt theme, is what this means. i don't know if 1) Qt6 will continue to support pulling the gtk2 theme and 2) what will become of gtk2. but this is really clever :D19:11
brocashelmopenbox is the wm19:11
onefangThink this is off topic.19:11
brocashelmyup. it is. we can discuss in #artix19:11
AzumaHazukioh, looks like i need to be registered to go there...19:12
XenguyThere's also #devuan-offtopic19:13
AzumaHazukii'm in19:15
spac3rHello, with help from this irc I upgraded a mac mini with the Nvidia GeForce 9400 GT gpu from beowulf to chimaera.22:24
spac3rThe flickering in the bottom of the screen remained and after 'tinkering' with compiz settings, the dm is no longer usable. Before i retire the mini i want to try to install chimaera. Are there dummy-proof steps for a clean install?22:24
spac3r*nVidia GeForce 9400M22:26
buZzwow compiz, there's a blast from the past :D23:15
spac3rcan't retrieve the post where compiz was suggested23:22
spac3ranyway, installing devuan ascii and then upgrades23:23
golinuxspac3r: This channel is logged so you should eb able to see it23:24
golinuxhttp://reisenweber.net/irclogs/libera/_devuan/23:24
spac3rgolinux ty. it was on another linux forum23:34

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