| rrq | grayrock: many thanks for rc2 feedback. | 01:07 |
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| grayrock | de nada | 01:13 |
| rrq | grayrock: using "aptitude why opensh-server", it says that: task-mate-desktop {dep} task-desktop {rec} task-cinnamon-desktop {dep} dinnamon-desktop-environment {rec} x3goserver {dep} openssh-server. | 01:52 |
| grayrock | rrq: ohhhhhhhh. ok, thanks. | 01:53 |
| rrq | one way to avoid that would be to "disarm recommends" before installing task-mate-desktop, but that might be counter-productive for populating the DE | 01:55 |
| rrq | seems apt is a bit gung-ho on installing recommends; taking all recommend alternatives whenever it can.. | 01:58 |
| grayrock | i used to disable recommends a long time ago, but it got so that it started causing a lot of dysfunctionality, so i just live with it. thanks for the suggestion, though. | 02:00 |
| rwp | If Recommends is enabled which it is by default then apt must act upon Recommends same as Depends. So that's expected. (I always disable Recommends myself because maintainers are gung-ho about adding dozens of Recommends too far for me.) | 02:48 |
| grayrock | the problem is they put things in recommends that really belong in depends, and it gets mixed in with a ton of superfluous stuff. | 02:53 |
| rwp | Agreed. Have seen the problem go both ways. Some things in Recommends that should be Depends. But much more of the time things in Recommends that should be Suggests at best. | 03:22 |
| buZz | so weird, i think the only thing that really broke on upgrading to daedalus, was displayport support on my nvidia proprietary setup? | 03:25 |
| buZz | it still outputs just fine, but xorg can no longer recognize the monitor, and just feeds it 640x480 | 03:25 |
| buZz | it says 'NVIDIA' as identifier in xorg :) | 03:26 |
| buZz | cant really find people having the same issue so kinda confused | 03:26 |
| grayrock | sounds like a firmware issue. odd that it only affects displayport though. | 04:00 |
| buZz | yeah its weird, all other ports are fully functional like before | 04:21 |
| gnarface | buZz: make sure your nvidia packages are all the same version | 04:26 |
| gnarface | sometimes a few get left behind during upgrades | 04:27 |
| gnarface | sometimes it can cause weird misbehavior | 04:27 |
| buZz | yeah i've been looking around, thusfar it all seems to have been updated | 04:30 |
| rrq | note that daedalus has the new section non-free-firmware that holds firmware previously in the non-free section (in chimaera) | 04:44 |
| buZz | yeah i added it before , buuuut not sure if it grabbed/upgraded any packages to/from it? | 04:45 |
| rrq | you should have a few /var/lib/apt/lists/*non-free-firmware*_Packages files at least.. | 04:48 |
| buZz | yeah i do | 04:49 |
| buZz | i noticed its grabbing the firmware for my ethernet card just fine too | 04:49 |
| rrq | so, it's available.. I know nothing about graphics :) | 04:50 |
| buZz | ^_^ all good | 04:50 |
| buZz | i'm sure i'll find it eventually, i'm just apt reinstall'ing all the nvidia packages i can find installed :P | 04:51 |
| buZz | maybe one didnt install properly or something | 04:51 |
| buZz | i was a bit sad that pipewire doesnt work that well in devuan yet :) well, it works -great- in daedalus, but you'll have to start the daemons manually | 04:52 |
| tom[m]12 | Hi all . Would appreciate any advice or help. Please tell me how to solve this problem.... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/be078a021af907c637583a7786cc1a1b1362b2ed>) | 14:56 |
| gnarface | not gonna click on that, can you summarize? | 14:58 |
| * _ds_ neither ("full message at [matrix URL]”) | 14:59 | |
| golinux | Me either | 14:59 |
| djph | oh!@ I know!@ | 15:59 |
| djph | "Stop using Matrix" | 15:59 |
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