libera/#devuan/ Monday, 2023-09-18

Necrodiverquick question, because i couldnt find the page on the debian install page. How would i install the wifi firmware for a lenovo thinkpad x200s?03:06
gnarfaceNecrodiver: is it too new for the firmware already in the repo?03:17
Necrodiveri remember it requiring a separate install03:17
gnarfaceoh, core2duo, that should be in the repos... and the installer should include it automatically if you configure wifi during install03:18
gnarfacedevuan installers include all current wifi firmware03:18
Necrodiverah03:18
Necrodiveris there a specific package i should install to use the wifi or is connman good enough?03:19
gnarfacei just put my raw config in /etc/network/interfaces but you do you03:19
Necrodiverokay ill have to help my friend next time he can bring the pc over then03:20
gnarfacei think the xfce default is network-manager, but connman is in the repos too, they should both work03:21
gnarface(not sure if they both work in xfce but they should both function where expected)03:21
Necrodiveri remember when i went to unstable, it broke network manager so i had to switch to connman03:21
Necrodiverthat was awhile ago, i have since gone back to stable03:21
Necrodiverfor daedalus03:22
gnarfacethe only thing you really need is wpasupplicant03:22
gnarfaceand the firmware package for your wifi device03:22
Necrodiverah okay, so with a core2duo the only thing i need to double check is the settings on connman and wpasupplicant03:23
gnarfaceassuming you configured network during the install, it should get the wifi firmware automatically, even from non-free if applicable03:24
gnarfacei'm trying to verify the package name of that for this particular model, in case you have to complete install without networking for some reason and then install it manually...03:25
gnarfaceit might be firmware-iwlwifi03:26
u-amarsh04had a weird DNS issue this morning - .com.au and .net.au weren't resolving (broken trust chain messages), upgrading bind9 packages from 1:9.18.16-1 to 1:9.19.14-1 fixed it03:27
Necrodiverthanks gnarface. Im gonna at least check on this pc just in case03:28
gnarfaceNecrodiver: well, regardless, it should work one way or another by all accounts, so if you have problems come back and tell us03:28
Necrodiverokay thanks for the help03:28
Necrodivergnarface14:28
Necrodiverim trying to troubleshoot the wifi issue right now with my friend14:28
Necrodiverwhen he opens connman, it doesnt show a tab for wireless14:28
Necrodiveri opened connman in my dell latitude and it had both bluetooth and wireless tabs right away14:29
Necrodiveri installed the firmware package you told me about earlier14:30
buZzNecrodiver: does 'ifconfig -a' suggest there is a wifi card?14:34
buZzor is the whole interface not detected yet?14:35
Necrodiverwhich interface should i see?14:39
Necrodivershould it specifically state theres a wifi card?14:39
Necrodiverand what should the output look like?14:43
buZzNecrodiver: typically a wifi card will be 'wlan0' or similar14:49
Necrodiverokay thanks14:49
[-_-]Hiiii14:54
[-_-]are the files in /etc/pam.d named according to some convention?14:55
[-_-]do pam care about the names?14:55
DPA[-_-]: As far as I know, those are pam service names, they are kind of arbitrary, as in the application doing the auth can choose an arbitrary one, I think. For example, su uses /etc/pam.d/su or /etc/pam.d/su- (if called with -l), dovecot uses /etc/pam.d/imap (as it provides imap as a service), and postfix uses /etc/pam.d/smtp. But if those aren't present, pam falls back to /etc/pam.d/other (which is normal for postfix to happen, I think).15:09
DPAI know this because I have my own SSO solution for my webapps (https://github.com/Daniel-Abrecht/dpa-sso/branches) and had to give my webmail access to the imap and smtp services of my mail server.15:09
[-_-]I am trying to do this15:13
[-_-]https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/OpenRC/User_services#Using_PAM_to_triggers_user.27s_service_on_login15:13
[-_-]should I create this (/etc/pam.d/system-local-login) file as shown there15:13
DPAI think "system-local-login" is probably specific to how gentoo has set up their pam config, I don't think creating that file would have any effect on devuan or debian.15:36
[-_-]hmmm15:36
DPAI don't think devuan has a precise equivalent to this config file. The closest thing seams to be /etc/pam.d/common-session, which is included by pretty much all other pam config files. Unlike system-local-login on gentoo, it'll also be used for things like on remote logins using ssh.15:55
DPAYou can probably append that "session optional pam_exec.so /usr/local/bin/pam_user_service" line there, but make sure to only append that very line at the very end, after the last comment, and not to change anything else in there.15:55
DPAYou can add additional checks to your /usr/local/bin/pam_user_service script if you want to, pam_exec provides a bunch of useful environment variables.15:55
DPA[-_-]: ^15:55
[-_-]oh...thanks15:56
[-_-]I will do15:56
gnarfaceNecrodiver: figure it out?22:03

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