| s|oO|0o|g | Hi, I have a laptop with a kingston ssd (not original part, 2 ext4 partitions, no swap) on which I upgraded from Chimaera to Daedalus, /tmp and /var/log mounted as tmpfs. Since the upgrade I've noticed the HDD activity led is blinking every second, iotop reports current writes constantly being around 100K/s and I can't figure out the cause. Is the ssd being worn out for no reason? | 13:44 |
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| bb|hcb | s|oO|0o|g: Doesn't iotop show which process is doing that IO? Did you try iotop-c - there are options like "--only --grtype=rw" that may help to identify... | 14:35 |
| jonadab | There's also lsof, but if you manage to catch it while it's happening. | 15:26 |
| jonadab | but *only | 15:26 |
| s|oO|0o|g | bb|hcb: iotop-c shows the same info as iotop -- ext4 journaling and some other processes increase Total write every 5 seconds or so, but it's unclear to me why Current write is pretty much constantly 100K/s | 16:07 |
| s|oO|0o|g | jonadab: not sure what I'm looking for though, the only pointer is that field 5 in /proc/diskstats increases on the first partition | 16:11 |
| bb|hcb | What are the chances that you have ext4 and there is lazy_init running? FYI Initial formatting does not set all things and the format continues after mount | 16:11 |
| s|oO|0o|g | even after an upgrade from chimeara? | 16:12 |
| s|oO|0o|g | I kept the same partitions | 16:12 |
| s|oO|0o|g | I'll check | 16:13 |
| s|oO|0o|g | ok, found out I had a configuration issue with isc-dhcp-server, which was flooding syslog, but since /var/log is mounted as tmpfs I didn't check | 16:43 |
| s|oO|0o|g | current disk write down to 3K/s | 16:44 |
| s|oO|0o|g | weird though... so even tmpfs mounts get counted as disk writes? | 16:44 |
| s|oO|0o|g | IO on tmpfs writes* | 16:45 |
| s|oO|0o|g | IO on tmpfs mounts** | 16:45 |
| bb|hcb | s|oO|0o|g: Yes, it counts ALL IO. And it is normal to count tmpfs too - there is no difference at the layer where stats are collected | 17:19 |
| s|oO|0o|g | bb|hcb: ok thanks! | 19:20 |
| DelTomix | oops they left - if s|oO|0o|g is using runit it could be svlogd - which did something very similar to me once when I had a custom service respawning | 19:34 |
| toksicle | hello. my first hour with devuan and i like it, thanks for all the work you guys put into it | 19:43 |
| DelTomix | hey happy to hear that toksicle :) | 19:44 |
| toksicle | :) | 19:44 |
| toksicle | tiny struggles in the partitioner corner. i need to type the decryption password for root and home | 19:45 |
| DelTomix | yeah unfortunately that can get complicated - one installer-level way to avoid that is to have one encrypted volume for both, and then use LVM to separate root and home - which might not be ideal if your home is already on its own partition | 19:49 |
| toksicle | i have not figured out yet how to use the physical volume as container during the install | 19:51 |
| toksicle | i used the Yak installer, i think | 19:51 |
| DelTomix | Not familliar with that one myself | 19:54 |
| FlibberTGibbet | if i want to have a prod at excalibur, is it just a case of downloading daedalus then changing sources.list? | 20:03 |
| debdog | FlibberTGibbet: yes | 20:04 |
| FlibberTGibbet | thanks debdog | 20:05 |
| FlibberTGibbet | i usually manage to break something so it should be fun in a vm :) | 20:05 |
| golinux | Remember to do at the updates before the upgrade | 21:13 |
| brocashelm | apt update && apt dist-upgrade && reboot | 21:14 |
| golinux | Yeah . . . like that. :D | 22:20 |
| brocashelm | so, needing some help here | 23:21 |
| brocashelm | xfce power manager icon does not appear on panel (a blank gap). how do i solve this? | 23:21 |
| brocashelm | and i use the latest 4.18 on daedalus | 23:21 |
| brocashelm | (already asked in #xfce and no solutions) | 23:21 |
| brocashelm | it does not matter what theme/icon set i use | 23:22 |
| brocashelm | my systems are very closely set up, so some show it and others don't | 23:22 |
| brocashelm | could i somehow hack it in with a missing image file? | 23:22 |
| gnarface | this comes up a lot, but i always forget the fix, i think there may be 3 possible causes, each with their own fix | 23:25 |
| gnarface | i think it's either missing package, missing permissions, or wrong session manager | 23:25 |
| gnarface | missing package could be anything from acpid to some xfce widget | 23:26 |
| gnarface | maybe if you diff the package list with a working one it'll be obvious | 23:26 |
| brocashelm | i mean, xfce power manager plugin does work, but i'd rather use the native one with my notifications for uniform | 23:31 |
| brocashelm | i have a feeling it might be a missing/bad permission file | 23:32 |
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