| golinux | Where are the excalibur testing isos hiding. They aren't at files.devuan.org . . . | 04:58 |
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| Xenguy | golinux, I don't think they exist; you need to upgrade IIRC | 05:11 |
| golinux | Hmmmm . . . thanks but . . . but . . . | 05:13 |
| * golinux will sleep on this . . . | 05:14 | |
| n4dir | to me upgrading to excalibur was rather painless. As to be expected | 05:14 |
| Xenguy | golinux, I could be wrong, dunno if that applies just to Ceres, or also to Excalibur | 05:14 |
| Xenguy | Excalibur is testing, so not sure we have ISO's for that | 05:15 |
| Xenguy | golinux, Yeah, Daedalus is the latest on the mirrors also | 05:17 |
| xnovax | Err:2 http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus InRelease | 12:25 |
| xnovax | The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 94532124541922FB Devuan Repository (Primary Devuan signing key) <repository@devuan.org> | 12:25 |
| xnovax | how to fix this? | 12:25 |
| brocashelm | xnovax: https://www.devuan.org/os/keyring | 12:27 |
| brocashelm | you could also try manually installing the devuan-keyring package if you don't have the latest one | 12:28 |
| xnovax | i have the latest one already | 12:29 |
| xnovax | or i think it is | 12:29 |
| xnovax | 2023.05.28 | 12:29 |
| xnovax | im only seeing this happen one one devuan machine, others are fine. | 12:30 |
| xnovax | on one* | 12:30 |
| brocashelm | are they all using the same sources.list mirrors as the faulty one? | 12:30 |
| xnovax | yes | 12:30 |
| brocashelm | and have you tried adding the gpg key? | 12:31 |
| brocashelm | something like this | 12:32 |
| brocashelm | sudo gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 94532124541922FB | 12:32 |
| brocashelm | also, provide a paste of the sources.list file for further inspection | 12:32 |
| xnovax | deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus main contrib | 12:33 |
| xnovax | deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-security main contrib | 12:33 |
| xnovax | not tried adding any keys | 12:33 |
| xnovax | added the key, same issue | 12:43 |
| gnarface | xnovax: same packages but only one is failing? you sure the clock is right on that system? | 15:43 |
| rwp | Is there a proxy in the middle? Remove the configured proxy and go direct in that case. | 16:46 |
| gnarface | oh, yea a proxy might do it too | 16:58 |
| Besnik_b | Hello! New user here, although I had occasionally used live-cd Devuan. I installed it in a hard disk, after using Debian and Debian-like for the last ten years or so. The automatic installation was used to install Daedalus. The one thing that I’d like to point is that after the installation, the repos for apt are quite few, 1 or 2 actually and there’s no indication during the installation that that is so, or a choice to add packa | 19:25 |
| Besnik_b | ges during installation, or repos, or whatever. I think that would help new users. I did managed to add the repos and install the programs I need because I had previous experience and I could read English. But someone without those capabilities would be stuck to whatever was decided from the Devuan dev. | 19:25 |
| brocashelm | besnik_b: devuan uses the same repos as debian's, so whatever software debian lacks (irrelevant to init), devuan also lacks | 19:29 |
| brocashelm | it's recommended to use deb.devuan.org | 19:30 |
| debdog | I thought he was talking about main and contrib and such. in this case I agree, and not even the release notes mentions the possible ones | 19:42 |
| gnarface | Besnik_b: the live image really isn't mean to be the flexible one. have you tried the netinstall? | 19:45 |
| gnarface | the other installers are a lot more like Debian's | 19:46 |
| gnarface | the live image is really more for people who don't want to think about options | 19:46 |
| Besnik_b | debdog, the possible repos are mention somewhere in the site, but my point is that a user without experience does not know how to navigate there | 19:47 |
| debdog | Besnik_b: I agree | 19:48 |
| Besnik_b | Here you are: https://www.devuan.org/os/packages | 19:48 |
| Besnik_b | gnarface, I installed the full distro. | 19:48 |
| Besnik_b | (Not from live image) | 19:49 |
| Besnik_b | There’s not even a IRC client installed as default, so you can use immediately to ask help somewhere (here)… :) | 19:50 |
| gnarface | well, the rules for the default package selections are mostly set by Debian upstream | 19:51 |
| gnarface | the way you phrased the initial statement, i really can't parse that in any way that doesn't sound like you used the live cd | 19:52 |
| gnarface | you only really need one repo url anyway: deb.devuan.org | 19:53 |
| gnarface | that's a DNS round-robin that points to all of them | 19:53 |
| gnarface | you should only need to change it if you're having problems with one of them | 19:54 |
| Besnik_b | Oh, I see what you mean. Apologies! | 19:54 |
| gnarface | the regular installers are designed to imitate Debian's as much as possible. if you try the netinstall in expert mode, you might have a better time with it. | 19:56 |
| gnarface | your complaints about stuff being too hard... those are old complaints about things we inherited from Debian, and it really did used to be a lot worse than this | 19:57 |
| gnarface | and the thing about adding packages at install time... i'm pretty sure there is a way to do that, it might just not be super obvious how it works | 19:59 |
| gnarface | i agree, it's not super friendly to new users, but like i said, it used to be worse, and it's the way it is now just because it's copied from Debian | 20:00 |
| gnarface | now, if you're asking for more internationalization on devuan.org, i agree that it's lacking, but i also doubt full translations for every locale are in the budget as much as i doubt that there's enough volunteers out there to do it for free | 20:04 |
| brocashelm | some devuan respins have irc clients, like refracta with hexchat | 20:08 |
| brocashelm | it's a live xfce distro | 20:08 |
| brocashelm | but yes, devuan ootb is going to be very bland for a new user; you'd have to know what to install to get it to work the way you want | 20:09 |
| djph | brocashelm: netinst, and then you're set :P | 23:50 |
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